RE: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition
Most conductors probably have very high resistivity. Making it very hard for them to conduct even electricity. Though they might make good insulators. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+william.s.gross=gmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+william.s.gross=gmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of lewho...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:45 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition Ah yes, Scott. To be young and still think that most conductors are infallable and that they are god... Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can tell stories and I don't play at the level that Hans and others on this forum have worked. I personally have worked under conductors that in some cases were totally clueless. Some of our colleagues on this list in the Metropolitan area where I reside (the name of the community shall remain nameless to protect the innocent, lol) know of a certain conductor that if you watched him, you were sure to get lost when he conducted a piece in three that really was in four. I am not joking! He also liked to play John Williams' music at a VERY slow tempo. I have said he couldn't conduct his way out of a paper bag. Now that my colleagues from my area are hopefully chuckling, I withdraw probably to be flamed. Walt Lewis --Original Message-- From: scott...@msn.com Sender: horn-bounces+lewhorn9=yahoo@music.memphis.edu To: horn@music.memphis.edu ReplyTo: The Horn List Subject: FW: [Hornlist] Confusing transposition (double post) Sent: Aug 17, 2009 4:15 PM Walt Lewis wrote: Won't that infuriate most conductors, even those that are so bad they can't conduct electricity let alone Wagner, Mendelssohn, Brahms et al? My question is how do you know they cannot conduct electricity unless you try... hard. Respectfully Submitted, Scott Young ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition
Hell, I settle for a down beat in non-free flowing music. Maybe in every fourth measure, that would be a tremendous blessing. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:48 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition I was playing in an amateur orchestra where everyone was getting lost in a contemporary piece that was free-flowing with no definite rythm. The conductor waved the stick in a free-flowing style trying to "emote." I respectfully asked him--I even played the senior citizen card--to give a definite downbeat at the beginning of each measure so I could count rests. He looked at me very startled and asked, "EVERY measure?" Would you believe that on the day of the concert, in the pre-concert rehearsal, he was still trying to get everyone to come in together? I spent many hours listening to a recording and writing in cues. I did make every entrance. Herb Foster From: "lewho...@yahoo.com" To: The Horn List Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:44:51 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition Ah yes, Scott. To be young and still think that most conductors are infallable and that they are god... Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can tell stories and I don't play at the level that Hans and others on this forum have worked. I personally have worked under conductors that in some cases were totally clueless. Some of our colleagues on this list in the Metropolitan area where I reside (the name of the community shall remain nameless to protect the innocent, lol) know of a certain conductor that if you watched him, you were sure to get lost when he conducted a piece in three that really was in four. I am not joking! He also liked to play John Williams' music at a VERY slow tempo. I have said he couldn't conduct his way out of a paper bag. Now that my colleagues from my area are hopefully chuckling, I withdraw probably to be flamed. Walt Lewis --Original Message-- From: scott...@msn.com Sender: horn-bounces+lewhorn9=yahoo@music.memphis.edu To: horn@music.memphis.edu ReplyTo: The Horn List Subject: FW: [Hornlist] Confusing transposition (double post) Sent: Aug 17, 2009 4:15 PM Walt Lewis wrote: Won't that infuriate most conductors, even those that are so bad they can't conduct electricity let alone Wagner, Mendelssohn, Brahms et al? My question is how do you know they cannot conduct electricity unless you try... hard. Respectfully Submitted, Scott Young ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition
I think I was misunderstood. I was implying that the conductor should be plugged into increasingly larger electrical charges. SCY > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: Re: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition > From: lewho...@yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:44:51 + > > Ah yes, Scott. To be young and still think that most conductors are > infallable and that they are god... > > Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can tell stories and I don't play at the > level that Hans and others on this forum have worked. I personally have > worked under conductors that in some cases were totally clueless. > > Some of our colleagues on this list in the Metropolitan area where I reside > (the name of the community shall remain nameless to protect the innocent, > lol) know of a certain conductor that if you watched him, you were sure to > get lost when he conducted a piece in three that really was in four. I am not > joking! > > He also liked to play John Williams' music at a VERY slow tempo. I have said > he couldn't conduct his way out of a paper bag. > > Now that my colleagues from my area are hopefully chuckling, I withdraw > probably to be flamed. > > Walt Lewis > --Original Message-- > From: scott...@msn.com > Sender: horn-bounces+lewhorn9=yahoo@music.memphis.edu > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > ReplyTo: The Horn List > Subject: FW: [Hornlist] Confusing transposition (double post) > Sent: Aug 17, 2009 4:15 PM > > > Walt Lewis wrote: > Won't that infuriate most conductors, even those that are so bad they can't > conduct electricity let alone Wagner, Mendelssohn, Brahms et al? > > My question is how do you know they cannot conduct electricity unless you > try... hard. > Respectfully Submitted, > Scott Young > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition
I was playing in an amateur orchestra where everyone was getting lost in a contemporary piece that was free-flowing with no definite rythm. The conductor waved the stick in a free-flowing style trying to "emote." I respectfully asked him--I even played the senior citizen card--to give a definite downbeat at the beginning of each measure so I could count rests. He looked at me very startled and asked, "EVERY measure?" Would you believe that on the day of the concert, in the pre-concert rehearsal, he was still trying to get everyone to come in together? I spent many hours listening to a recording and writing in cues. I did make every entrance. Herb Foster From: "lewho...@yahoo.com" To: The Horn List Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:44:51 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition Ah yes, Scott. To be young and still think that most conductors are infallable and that they are god... Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can tell stories and I don't play at the level that Hans and others on this forum have worked. I personally have worked under conductors that in some cases were totally clueless. Some of our colleagues on this list in the Metropolitan area where I reside (the name of the community shall remain nameless to protect the innocent, lol) know of a certain conductor that if you watched him, you were sure to get lost when he conducted a piece in three that really was in four. I am not joking! He also liked to play John Williams' music at a VERY slow tempo. I have said he couldn't conduct his way out of a paper bag. Now that my colleagues from my area are hopefully chuckling, I withdraw probably to be flamed. Walt Lewis --Original Message-- From: scott...@msn.com Sender: horn-bounces+lewhorn9=yahoo@music.memphis.edu To: horn@music.memphis.edu ReplyTo: The Horn List Subject: FW: [Hornlist] Confusing transposition (double post) Sent: Aug 17, 2009 4:15 PM Walt Lewis wrote: Won't that infuriate most conductors, even those that are so bad they can't conduct electricity let alone Wagner, Mendelssohn, Brahms et al? My question is how do you know they cannot conduct electricity unless you try... hard. Respectfully Submitted, Scott Young ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist]. Conductor's. Was Confusing transposition
Ah yes, Scott. To be young and still think that most conductors are infallable and that they are god... Sorry to burst your bubble, but I can tell stories and I don't play at the level that Hans and others on this forum have worked. I personally have worked under conductors that in some cases were totally clueless. Some of our colleagues on this list in the Metropolitan area where I reside (the name of the community shall remain nameless to protect the innocent, lol) know of a certain conductor that if you watched him, you were sure to get lost when he conducted a piece in three that really was in four. I am not joking! He also liked to play John Williams' music at a VERY slow tempo. I have said he couldn't conduct his way out of a paper bag. Now that my colleagues from my area are hopefully chuckling, I withdraw probably to be flamed. Walt Lewis --Original Message-- From: scott...@msn.com Sender: horn-bounces+lewhorn9=yahoo@music.memphis.edu To: horn@music.memphis.edu ReplyTo: The Horn List Subject: FW: [Hornlist] Confusing transposition (double post) Sent: Aug 17, 2009 4:15 PM Walt Lewis wrote: Won't that infuriate most conductors, even those that are so bad they can't conduct electricity let alone Wagner, Mendelssohn, Brahms et al? My question is how do you know they cannot conduct electricity unless you try... hard. Respectfully Submitted, Scott Young ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
