RE: [Hornlist] Bach 112
Yes, unusual, but the text (ductus of melody & technique required) is just common stuff. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Hartman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:13 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Bach 112 Hi Hans, I got a hold of a PDF of the score, and maybe in your universe it's not unusual, but anything with that many high Ds in it is unusual for me! Very few orchestral or opera pieces go that high for that long. Sorry I got the number wrong before, I think the other one I played was 89, not 87. scottito ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bach 112
Hi Hans, I got a hold of a PDF of the score, and maybe in your universe it's not unusual, but anything with that many high Ds in it is unusual for me! Very few orchestral or opera pieces go that high for that long. Sorry I got the number wrong before, I think the other one I played was 89, not 87. scottito ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bach 112
Just 74 measures without any rest, 28 written high c3 (played high d3), but 16 of the mare tied together in pairs, 30 high b-nat (played c3#), just 6 tied pairs, one high bb2 (played c3). Be careful with your embouchure, use the descant, please. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Hartman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:15 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bach 112 Hi Hans, Thanks so much for your offer. I'm playing the cantata at Stanford University at the end of the month, so they should send the parts to me soon. I just wanted to know in advance how high it was. I guess it's time to get the high chops back in shape... Scott ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bach 112
If you see the part the first time at the just one (perhaps) rehearsal, you can make it, if your embouchure is right & if you bring a descant horn. There are only one flat & one courtesy natural each plus two sharps. The text is mainly of (more or less) scales written as C-major scales for horn in G, sometimes the scales in form of steps, nothing to be practised. But you need endurance, nothing strange to you in your freelancing life. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Hartman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:18 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Bach 112 Hi again, I'm sorry I wasn't very clear. If they don't get the part to me by the end of the week, I may ask for a copy from you, but for now I am OK. By the way, I didn't want to mail to the whole list but I also played in a beautiful place recently. I played in a wedding at Pebble Beach golf course, right off the 17th fairway. The room the wedding was in was glass on three sides, and the view was of the Pacific near Carmel (only a few feet from the building) and the beautiful fairway. Scott ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Bach 112
Hi again, I'm sorry I wasn't very clear. If they don't get the part to me by the end of the week, I may ask for a copy from you, but for now I am OK. By the way, I didn't want to mail to the whole list but I also played in a beautiful place recently. I played in a wedding at Pebble Beach golf course, right off the 17th fairway. The room the wedding was in was glass on three sides, and the view was of the Pacific near Carmel (only a few feet from the building) and the beautiful fairway. Scott ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Bach 112
Hi Hans, Thanks so much for your offer. I'm playing the cantata at Stanford University at the end of the month, so they should send the parts to me soon. I just wanted to know in advance how high it was. I guess it's time to get the high chops back in shape... Scott ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bach 112
Scott, BWV 112 has 74 measures continuous playing in the upper & high range without a single rest incl. 14-times reaching written high d3 (you are right, horns are in G) but the 2nd horn has 18 written a2 (b-nat.2 on the F-Horn). So one has to be careful with the embouchure. The text is not complicated, so one has not to practice much this kind of music . Anyway, playing Bach cantatas is not a task for inexperienced. You as experienced horn player will not find other difficulties than with the endurance. For sound reasons, it is wise to use high F-descant horns or if you get one of these Bb-high F & pull out the Bb-slides. The sound fits the Bach music much better. But be careful, it would be disastrous to practice on these horns. They ruin the embouchure as one wants to compensate for the missing overtones by forcing the sound. Better just practise the part by reading it. Make your warm up (if necessary) on the regular horn, take the descant just for the rehearsal & for the performance. Good luck. Hans PS: the 2nd horn must use a descant too for the same light sound. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Hartman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Bach 112 Hi all, I can't seem to find a score for Bach Cantata 112 locally, except for piano scores. Can anyone tell me what key the horn part is in and if it's a screamer? Please tell me it's not as hard as Cantata 87... scottito ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Bach 112
I think i have the full score of this cantata, Do you want the score? I downloaded it from a bach cantatas web site but i can't find it now. if you want it just email to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCC Scott Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I can't seem to find a score for Bach Cantata 112 locally, except for piano scores. Can anyone tell me what key the horn part is in and if it's a screamer? Please tell me it's not as hard as Cantata 87... scottito ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/chiu_cc1750%40yahoo.com.hk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 全港最大手機下載中心 http://mobile.yahoo.com.hk/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Bach 112
Scott Hartmann wrote: >I can't seem to find a score for Bach Cantata 112 locally, except >for piano scores. > >Can anyone tell me what key the horn part is in and if it's a screamer? It is not one of the most difficult Bach works by any means, but it does present its challenges. The work calls for two horns in G, and while the top notes are only written high C's (F-horn D's) there are plenty of those. >Please tell me it's not as hard as Cantata 87... Hmm... 87 is about as horn-friendly as they come, as there are no horn parts. If you are doing much Bach work, you might want to invest in the Musica Rara complete Bach repertoire volumes, which you can find at: http://www.thompsonedition.com/retail/MR2150.htm David B. Thompson, President Thompson Edition, Inc. http://www.thompsonedition.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Bach 112
OK - it's not as hard as Cantata 87 - There - feel better? Sandra (I know - everybody's a comedian...) - Original Message - From: Scott Hartman Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 7:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Bach 112 Hi all, I can't seem to find a score for Bach Cantata 112 locally, except for piano scores. Can anyone tell me what key the horn part is in and if it's a screamer? Please tell me it's not as hard as Cantata 87... scottito ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sclark9988%40msn.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
