Re: [Hornlist] advice,please
In a message dated 8/15/2005 1:19:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very hot greetings from Florida! I have a question and need some input. I've played first chair for 8-9 years in a community orchestra. Last year we got a new conductor who instituted a schedule whereby we are to rehearse the day of a concert. Concert is at 3, rehearsal from 1-2pm,though it often runs to 2:30pm. Very rough on the "lip" even though I try to take it easy and save best efforts for actual concert. To me this is very unprofessional,as I think the time to learn what we need to know is at the four regular weekly rehearsals. Any thoughts? I play in an orchestra that does exactly that. My assistant plays 90% of the rehearsal and gets principal pay for the rehearsal. I play my solos and pretty much watch the music go by. Wes Hatch . _www.weshatchhorns.com_ (http://www.weshatchhorns.com) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] advice,please
We have had a similar situation with our orchestra since the current music director took over 9 years ago. Because we are a community orchestra, I can see why he wants to do thislast minute reminders regarding the tougher spots and what should be done. We have made him aware that this is tough on the horns, and he is very good about asking for very little from us during these pre-concert rehearsals. Fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 11:12 AM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] advice,please Very hot greetings from Florida! I have a question and need some input. I've played first chair for 8-9 years in a community orchestra. Last year we got a new conductor who instituted a schedule whereby we are to rehearse the day of a concert. Concert is at 3, rehearsal from 1-2pm,though it often runs to 2:30pm. Very rough on the "lip" even though I try to take it easy and save best efforts for actual concert. To me this is very unprofessional,as I think the time to learn what we need to know is at the four regular weekly rehearsals. Any thoughts? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fred.baucom%40ftb.ca.gov ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] advice,please
Anne, A one hour rehearsal should just be a warm-up for you. For 20 years I had a 3 hour rehearsal on Saturday afternoon from 1;30 to 4:30, a dinner break and then concert at 8:00. I would have been delighted to just have a one hour "sound check" to get warmed up for a program a half hour later. My original advice still holds true. Don't ever blow your lip during a dress rehearsal; pick your spots and "dog it" in the loud spots and save your chops for the real thing. That's when it counts. On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 03:22 PM, Paul Mansur wrote: Hi, Anne. This is a lot more common than you might think. It does happen with many community orchestras and sometimes with pro orchestras. I have found myself running out of gas during the concert and it was pretty embarrassing. I learned to "dog it" in these final rehearsals and save my chops. Yes, play the solo spots in the rehearsals, but really cut back on the tutti stuff and accompaniments. After that, no more problems. IF you have an assistant, turn him/her loose to play out during the rehearsal. cheers, Paul Mansur On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 02:11 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Very hot greetings from Florida! I have a question and need some input. I've played first chair for 8-9 years in a community orchestra. Last year we got a new conductor who instituted a schedule whereby we are to rehearse the day of a concert. Concert is at 3, rehearsal from 1-2pm,though it often runs to 2:30pm. Very rough on the "lip" even though I try to take it easy and save best efforts for actual concert. To me this is very unprofessional,as I think the time to learn what we need to know is at the four regular weekly rehearsals. Any thoughts? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/>> p_mansur1%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/p_mansur1%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] advice,please
Hi, Anne. This is a lot more common than you might think. It does happen with many community orchestras and sometimes with pro orchestras. I have found myself running out of gas during the concert and it was pretty embarrassing. I learned to "dog it" in these final rehearsals and save my chops. Yes, play the solo spots in the rehearsals, but really cut back on the tutti stuff and accompaniments. After that, no more problems. IF you have an assistant, turn him/her loose to play out during the rehearsal. cheers, Paul Mansur On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 02:11 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Very hot greetings from Florida! I have a question and need some input. I've played first chair for 8-9 years in a community orchestra. Last year we got a new conductor who instituted a schedule whereby we are to rehearse the day of a concert. Concert is at 3, rehearsal from 1-2pm,though it often runs to 2:30pm. Very rough on the "lip" even though I try to take it easy and save best efforts for actual concert. To me this is very unprofessional,as I think the time to learn what we need to know is at the four regular weekly rehearsals. Any thoughts? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/p_mansur1%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] advice,please
I am not sure what the question is? Do other orchestras rehearse the day of the concert and end a half hour before the concert starts, yes, I know several. Do those musicians complain, yes. Is this practice detrimental to the overall performance quality that an orchestra produces i would guess yes, but your organization did it for a year so you are in a better position than I to answer that question. Do you feel like your overall performance suffers then say something to the Maestro, play even less this year on the sound check ask for an assistant specifically because of the added rehearsal. I am assuming something got cut somewhere else maybe this is a money saving thing from management's side? Did you as musicians have a say in hiring this guy, maybe if you did not that should change. Debbie Schmidt ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] advice,please
Sounds like rough scheduling, but if you've got chops of steel (handy to have) then it shouldn't make much difference as a practical matter. A couple of years ago I accidentally got myself signed up for back-to-back Christmas season brass quintet gigs with 2 different quintets that just happened to both have the same horn player -- me. The gig that was supposed to be on Saturday turned out actually to be on Sunday, right ahead of the gig that was already set for Sunday. So it goes. Midway through the 2nd quintet gig, with my face starting to feel the strain, between tunes I said something to my colleagues about the bad scheduling, adding, "Fortunately, I have chops of steel." At that, our tuba player (the guy who calls the tunes) said, "OK, Mr. Chops Of Steel, how about Le Basque as our next number?" I said OK & we lit into Le Basque. Later on we added another arrangement of Le Basque to our quintet book, featuring tuba on the solo line, with horn, bone & trumpets playing boom-chick. So far, however, the only version we perform is the horn-feature version. BTW, whenever our large-ensemble conductor schedules a rehearsal-type event right before a performance, he's careful to refer to it as a "sound check" rather than a "rehearsal." But what's in a name anyway? -- Alan Cole, rank amateur. McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ At 02:11 PM 8/15/2005, you wrote: Very hot greetings from Florida! I have a question and need some input. I've played first chair for 8-9 years in a community orchestra. Last year we got a new conductor who instituted a schedule whereby we are to rehearse the day of a concert. Concert is at 3, rehearsal from 1-2pm,though it often runs to 2:30pm. Very rough on the "lip" even though I try to take it easy and save best efforts for actual concert. To me this is very unprofessional,as I think the time to learn what we need to know is at the four regular weekly rehearsals. Any thoughts? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.9/72 - Release Date: 8/14/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Advice,please
Anne, the thumb valve might be "frozen" due to accidentally screwing the valve cap too tight or by an accidental shift of the bearing plate. Remove back screw, lose valve cap just a quarter or half turn, take chopstick or similar, place it on the middle of the wing of the valve mechanism (the wing sitting on the axis), knock just a bit with a little hammer, to losen the valve or the cap, It works in most cases. If not yet, well, take the valve apart & set the valve properly again, the bearing plate at the right marking, so it stays even with the spindle. Avoid any force. Rescrew the valve cap but just to close it without force. The valve should work. In the future: if this happen again, why running for the spare horn. Use the horn as it is, just the F-side or just the Bb-side. Should work except the low C (Bb-horn). Greetings Hans .. "Anne Megenity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > Just getting ready to go to orchestra rehearsal,so was going to warm up a > bit on my Merker horn (which I like alot) and good thing I did,as the thumb > valve appears frozen in place. Never a problem before, and it is greased and > oiled about every other day..no problem yesterday whatsoever. Lucky I have > a backup horn,which I haven't used in months...help! I don't want to force > the valve,plus it would likely break the string. > TIA, Anne Megenity > > > > _ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn > -- Prof.Hans Pizka email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +49 89 903 9548 - www.pizka.de (horn site) with connections to www.pizka.de/Pizka-music.html (publications) - www.pizka.de/PizClasHr.htm (instruments, mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/PizWrHorn.htm (Viennese Horns) - www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm (mouthpieces) www.pizka.de/Pizka-travel.htm (pictures, stories, experiences from my travel) - open soon mail is virus checked ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
