RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
There are 4 Windpassing(s) in Lower Austria: Lat./Long.: 48.15/15.03 near St.Poelten, 48.18/14.91 South of Grein, 48.23/14,51 north east of Enns, 48,61/16,05 in the Waldviertel /north of the Danube half way from St.Poelten to Brno But there are four Wimpassing(s) in Lower Austria: 47,91/16,43 on the Leitha river, 48,23/15,48 on the Pielach river,47,7/16,03 not far from Semmering, 47,91/16,43 between end of Alps & Neusiedlersee half way, plus one in Upper Austria at 48,16/13,98 south of Traun Be assured, I have "passed" through all of these villages & "passed some wind". It is my home country & I might do it with or without the horn - single F off course. Cheers == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Baumgart Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:45 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone MapPoint showed 1 Windpassing in Upper Austria (at junction of Danube and Enns, across the Danube from Mauthausen) and 3 in Lower Austria. Mapquest.com shows 2 in Lower Austria: http://tinyurl.com/y0hs ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
MapPoint showed 1 Windpassing in Upper Austria (at junction of Danube and Enns, across the Danube from Mauthausen) and 3 in Lower Austria. Mapquest.com shows 2 in Lower Austria: http://tinyurl.com/y0hs - Original Message - From: "Hans Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone Misspelled. It is Wimpassing not Windpassing. But there is also Windhaag twice; but Bavaria has better: Tuntenhausen, Busendorf or just accross the Czech Border : As or Asch. The inhabitants are lucky that the letter "r" is missing. - Just a discussion during the first years of the 12 years Reich. "Good morning. My name is Krohn." - "Oh, my name is Asch. How much did you pay, to get the R into your name ?" - "Nothing, they took it away from your name !" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Baumgart Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:29 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone You're referring to the Windpassing technique, developed in the Upper Austria village of the same name. John Baumgart ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/baumgart%40chicagonet.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Pizka Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:01 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone Misspelled. It is Wimpassing not Windpassing. But there is also Windhaag twice; but Bavaria has better: Tuntenhausen, Busendorf or just accross the Czech Border : As or Asch. The inhabitants are lucky that the letter "r" is missing. - Just a discussion during the first years of the 12 years Reich. "Good morning. My name is Krohn." - "Oh, my name is Asch. How much did you pay, to get the R into your name ?" - "Nothing, they took it away from your name !" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Baumgart Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:29 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone You're referring to the Windpassing technique, developed in the Upper Austria village of the same name. John Baumgart ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/stevo%40execpc.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
You mean South ? == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kowalchuk Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 2:10 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone At 05:28 PM 12/5/03 -0600, John Baumgart wrote: >You're referring to the Windpassing technique, developed in the Upper >Austria village of the same name. Shouldn't that be the Lower Tract of Upper Austria? John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1 Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
Misspelled. It is Wimpassing not Windpassing. But there is also Windhaag twice; but Bavaria has better: Tuntenhausen, Busendorf or just accross the Czech Border : As or Asch. The inhabitants are lucky that the letter "r" is missing. - Just a discussion during the first years of the 12 years Reich. "Good morning. My name is Krohn." - "Oh, my name is Asch. How much did you pay, to get the R into your name ?" - "Nothing, they took it away from your name !" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Baumgart Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:29 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone You're referring to the Windpassing technique, developed in the Upper Austria village of the same name. John Baumgart ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
Perfurz, sorry, perfect. I have to listen to a lot of "Furztechnik". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone Thanks for the correction :) Ausfahrt Technique was just a pun mixing a little of the old English in there. Aus-fart... So would farting technique in german be furz-technik? Mein Deutshe ist nicht so gut. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
Good job for pointing that out. Not too many people remember that before there were compasses and the concept of "true north" people referred to Upper as in elevation, not in latitude. Also, "upper" can mean where the river comes from. As in Egypt, lower Egypt is near Cairo and upper Egypt is to the south. -William In a message dated 12/5/2003 5:42:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Shouldn't that be the Lower Tract of Upper Austria? > > John Kowalchukmaker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes > Oshawa, Ontariohttp://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1 > > Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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At 05:28 PM 12/5/03 -0600, John Baumgart wrote: >You're referring to the Windpassing technique, developed in the Upper >Austria village of the same name. Shouldn't that be the Lower Tract of Upper Austria? John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1 Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
You're referring to the Windpassing technique, developed in the Upper Austria village of the same name. John Baumgart - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone > Don't Germans call that the Ausfhart technique? If not they really should... > great chance for a jolly good English pun there... > > -William > > In a message dated 12/5/2003 11:04:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Also, quite nobody felt flamed with "horn tone verse body escape > > noises", which are also called fart. Or my comment, many players would > > sound like "castrated alto trombones". > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/baumgart%40chicagonet.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
Thanks for the correction :) Ausfahrt Technique was just a pun mixing a little of the old English in there. Aus-fart... So would farting technique in german be furz-technik? Mein Deutshe ist nicht so gut. -William In a message dated 12/5/2003 12:27:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The word in question is to be spelt as "Ausfahrt", the "h" after the > vowel prolonging the vowel, so sorry, William: "Nix is mit fhart ! Nix > mit Wortspass (pun) !" > > And I have never heard anything similar to (if at all &if corrected) > "Ausfahrt Technik". And "fart" converts to "furz" in German. If you > pronounce "furz" the English way, it comes out as "farts" for German > ears. If this is, what you meant, I can understand that, as it sounds > like natural farts, written in German as "Furze" (plural). > > So far so good: the "Hohe Schule des Bb-Horn Spiels" ! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
You forgot that singers pronounce the words. Bad singers smear all together while best singers articulate !!! Well, not every language fits as the right example for our playing, but Italian, German & perhaps Japanese would work fine with the clear vowels & exact consonants, also Malay, Spanish (so, so). = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:48 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone Hans,believe I raised the question of singing on the horn..and I still have a question! Singers (vocalists) seem to SLUR everything,unless of course,there's an occasional rest. They have to slur or break the melodic line,no? So how does singing on the horn contrast with that? We only slur when it's written that way,correct?"Confused" - Original Message - From: Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'The Horn List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone Interesting to note, that except two letters, nobody took up the discussion about singing on the horn. Not so positive for many on the list, sorry. Also, quite nobody felt flamed with "horn tone verse body escape noises", which are also called fart. Or my comment, many players would sound like "castrated alto trombones". Very interesting, but desillusionating. Visit my www.pizka.de/LongCall1.htm & following pages or www.pizka.de/sigfrid.htm pages, to learn something about horn tone from the many samples (not only my own, but many great horn players). Or the samples at www.pizka.de/hpizka.htm. Some are video clips, some audio clips. Download speed should not be a problem today. Have fun. Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136 D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548 home: www.pizka.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/amegenity%40comcast.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
The word in question is to be spelt as "Ausfahrt", the "h" after the vowel prolonging the vowel, so sorry, William: "Nix is mit fhart ! Nix mit Wortspass (pun) !" And I have never heard anything similar to (if at all & if corrected) "Ausfahrt Technik". And "fart" converts to "furz" in German. If you pronounce "furz" the English way, it comes out as "farts" for German ears. If this is, what you meant, I can understand that, as it sounds like natural farts, written in German as "Furze" (plural). So far so good: the "Hohe Schule des Bb-Horn Spiels" ! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone Don't Germans call that the Ausfhart technique? If not they really should... great chance for a jolly good English pun there... -William In a message dated 12/5/2003 11:04:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Also, quite nobody felt flamed with "horn tone verse body escape > noises", which are also called fart. Or my comment, many players would > sound like "castrated alto trombones". ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Singers (vocalists) seem to SLUR everything,unless of course,there's an occasional rest. I don't think they DO slur everything. Just depends on the music...markings, etc... A. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
Hans,believe I raised the question of singing on the horn..and I still have a question! Singers (vocalists) seem to SLUR everything,unless of course,there's an occasional rest. They have to slur or break the melodic line,no? So how does singing on the horn contrast with that? We only slur when it's written that way,correct?"Confused" - Original Message - From: Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'The Horn List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone Interesting to note, that except two letters, nobody took up the discussion about singing on the horn. Not so positive for many on the list, sorry. Also, quite nobody felt flamed with "horn tone verse body escape noises", which are also called fart. Or my comment, many players would sound like "castrated alto trombones". Very interesting, but desillusionating. Visit my www.pizka.de/LongCall1.htm & following pages or www.pizka.de/sigfrid.htm pages, to learn something about horn tone from the many samples (not only my own, but many great horn players). Or the samples at www.pizka.de/hpizka.htm. Some are video clips, some audio clips. Download speed should not be a problem today. Have fun. Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136 D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548 home: www.pizka.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/amegenity%40comcast.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone
Don't Germans call that the Ausfhart technique? If not they really should... great chance for a jolly good English pun there... -William In a message dated 12/5/2003 11:04:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Also, quite nobody felt flamed with "horn tone verse body escape > noises", which are also called fart. Or my comment, many players would > sound like "castrated alto trombones". ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
