Re: [HOT] seeking your help on OSM data extraction tutorial

[Yantisa Akhadi]

Hi Simone,

Thank you for sharing. The interface looks clean and pretty
straightforward, although I may need someone to translate it in English

Best,

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*Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Simone Cortesi  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Yantisa Akhadi
>  wrote:
> > I would love to join in this effort. We have some tutorial on HOT Exports
> > and we are looking forward on integrating Overpass Turbo on our training
> > materials. Currently we also in the process of building local replication
> > servers for disaster management agency.
>
> Within the italian community, Fabrizio has been working on this
> http://osm-toolserver-italia.wmflabs.org/estratti/ (either click on
> "comuni" or "regioni").
>
> It is an extraction system for osm, whose code can be found on our
> github repository:
> https://github.com/osmItalia/estratti-locali-openstreetmap
>
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Re: [HOT] seeking your help on OSM data extraction tutorial

[Simone Cortesi]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Yantisa Akhadi
 wrote:
> I would love to join in this effort. We have some tutorial on HOT Exports
> and we are looking forward on integrating Overpass Turbo on our training
> materials. Currently we also in the process of building local replication
> servers for disaster management agency.

Within the italian community, Fabrizio has been working on this
http://osm-toolserver-italia.wmflabs.org/estratti/ (either click on
"comuni" or "regioni").

It is an extraction system for osm, whose code can be found on our
github repository:
https://github.com/osmItalia/estratti-locali-openstreetmap

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Re: [HOT] seeking your help on OSM data extraction tutorial

[Yantisa Akhadi]

Hello Mikel,

I would love to join in this effort. We have some tutorial on HOT Exports
and we are looking forward on integrating Overpass Turbo on our training
materials. Currently we also in the process of building local replication
servers for disaster management agency.

Best,

*Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
*Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Mikel Maron  wrote:

> HOTties
>
> I'm seeking someone(s) to collaborate in putting together and delivering a
> short tutorial on extraction and distribution of OSM data.
>
> This need arose in discussion with ebola response. There are several
> catalogs publishing snapshots of OSM data, but it's unclear what work flow
> is in place to keep those snapshots fresh as OSM grows. The idea is to
> write up very brief documentation (perhaps in a GIST), and then deliver a
> short tutorial session 30-60 minutes. There's a half dozen people already
> stepped up to take part, and likely many more.
>
>
> This tutorial should cover best practice and example workflows. Start with
> the basics, and move into more specialized topics over the time (so that
> folks can drop off when they've gotten what they need).
>
> Idea for an agenda:
> * Start with the key concepts of how OSM data is updated and replicated
> * Dive into the use of HOT Exports, OverPass Turbo, QuickOSM, geofabrik
> extracts.
> * Explore best workflows for cataloging services to keep their OSM data
> fresh and clearly sourced.
> * Think about some opportunities for the future, like running replication
> servers inside GIS units.
>
>
> Are you interested to help? Get in touch!
>
> Mikel
>
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
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Re: [HOT] HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations (HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations in Africa (as for cassava, manioc)

[S Volk]

Hi Pierre,
I agree with the priorities you reminded:
> Note that for the Ebola Activation is quite a huge task and  our> priority so 
> far with the large territories to cover is more about> roads, settlements and 
> place names. It is up to each of you to> decide if  you have the time to map 
> the farmlands and orchards.

The only importance, as I wrote, to describe how to find plantations of small 
plants (like manioc), is that it makes it easier to find paths to isolated 
people.
Some buildings are isolated. Wherever can find a building, there should be some 
path. And probably some work around. But sometimes it's impossible to find any 
pattern of ways in scrub, woods or forests in satellite images.
So in plantations it's easier to find a path to map. If not a path to map, 
people just detecting a plantation in the map between large areas of dense 
vegetation (even scrub), it means they have found a place that can walk 
through. Mostly for Africa's environment it may be not wasteful.
I thought it also can be useful in the reverse:wherever it is found isolated 
plantations/orchards, there should be people (walkers) not too far (in the case 
of dense vegetation that may be hiding buildings).
I wrote intend not to complicate, nor to do secondary things that can be done 
further.I hope it's only one more way to try to get to every people.
Thank you for remind it,Regards, Sergio 
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[HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

[Benson Funk Wilder]

Thanks for the kind words, Dale and Blake.  We're glad the MapGive
 videos are useful but definitely recognize the
limitations - chief among them that the content is currently limited to iD
editing.  For those who haven't seen them there are three videos overall -
the motivational/inspirational/propagandistic "Why Map" video, and the two
training videos on editing with iD and using the TM.

We do have plans (hopefully within the year) to update the training videos
to reflect any changes in iD and OSMTMv2.  We have somewhat less firm plans
to create additional content at this point, but we want everything we
create to flow back into a common repository without duplication,
complementing LearnOSM, Teach OSM, and the other resources out there.
Looking forward to having more conversations about this, starting with
CrisisMappers in a couple weeks.

Cheers,
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Re: [HOT] Connecting with JP HRO in Delmas 32, PaP

[Jaakko Helleranta / Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)]

Hi Jason,

Thanks for pinging the list about your project.

As Samuel commented already we have HOT members in Haiti. And there are a
many who have participated in HOT/OSM mapping projects who we can put you
in contact with.

So, depending on your project's needs/parameters there are people with
prior experience with OSM tools, process, survey and editing and also DRR
for both training new mappers as well as to do the actual mapping.

I lived three years in Haiti mapping in general throughout the country and
being involved with HOT projects and the related people/communities. Feel
free to contact me if you have any questions at any point. Should you need
help in designing, planning, setting up or implementing the project that
would require international help there are a number of people with
extensive experience with OSM/DRR projects in Haiti and HOT can also
provide such support contractually if needed.

With best regards,
-Jaakko

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On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Jason McGaughey 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> My name is Jason McGaughey and I am the Education Project Manager for the
> J/P Haitian Relief Organization. I am checking to see if this email still
> works.
>
> J/P Haitian Relief Organization would like to get a hold of you for a
> community mapping DRR project. We would like to get a hold of the Haitian
> Open Street Team to conduct this project.
>
> Please contact me at jason.mcgaug...@jphro.org or (509) 4406-0160
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jason
>
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>
> *Jason McGaughey*
>
>
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>
> *J/P Haitian Relief Organization*
>
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>
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>
>
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> programs to the Haitian people quickly and effectively.
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 56, Issue 59

[Pierre Béland]

Ah mais quel Touba? 


J'ai effectivement répondu un peu vite. Après ma réponse, j'ai réalisé qu'il y 
a beaucoup de Touba, soit au Senégal, au Mali, en Guinée, au Niger et Côte 
d'Ivoire.  


Et comme le souligne Jorieke, il y a aussi maintenant de l'imagerie en 
provenance de Mapbox. Eux aussi ont un programme d'acquisition d'images.

Poursuivons la discussion sur hot-francophone où tu peux nou joindre Sene.

 
Pierre 




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Salut Sene, 

En fait, il y a d'imagerie de Touba très récemment maintenant! Mais tu avais 
raison, il n'y avait pas avant! 
Ce que Pierre dit est bien correct: Bing nous fournit de beaucoup d'imagerie, 
mais ils n'ont pas d'imagerie de partout dans le monde. 
Aussi, si tu travailles avec JOSM il y as aussi possible de ajouter l'imagerie 
de Mapbox. Mapbox ils nous fournissent aussi de l'imagerie, comme Bing. Tu vas 
le retrouvé à coté l'onglet de Bing. Pour Touba il y a aussi de l'imagerie de 
Mapbox! 

Bonne soirée et bonne mapping! 

Jorieke


2014-10-21 15:04 GMT+02:00 Pierre Béland :


>
>Bonjour Serge,
>
>
>La terre n'est pas encore couverte au complet avec de l'imagerie haute 
résolution. Mais Microsoft a un important programme d'acquisition 
d'images. Sur la carte ci-dessous tu verras une bande rouge verticale où le 
satellite n'est pas encore passé.
>http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=14.836308250167647&lon=-15.889917373657234&zoom=13
>
>
>
>À noter qu'il y a mainteant un groupe de discussion hot-francophone où les 
>contributeurs francophones se retrouvent.
>Voir https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot-francophone/
>
>  
>
> 
>Pierre 
>
>
>
>
>
> De : sene magatte 
>À : "hot@openstreetmap.org"  
>Envoyé le : Mardi 21 octobre 2014 7h31
>Objet : Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 56, Issue 59
> 
>
>
>j'aimerais savoir pourquoi l'image satellite bing n'est pas disponible sur la 
>ville  de Touba.
>
>
>
>Le Mardi 21 octobre 2014 7h44, "hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org" 
> a écrit :
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Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 56, Issue 59

[Jorieke Vyncke]

Salut Sene,

En fait, il y a d'imagerie de Touba très récemment maintenant! Mais tu
avais raison, il n'y avait pas avant!
Ce que Pierre dit est bien correct: Bing nous fournit de beaucoup
d'imagerie, mais ils n'ont pas d'imagerie de partout dans le monde.
Aussi, si tu travailles avec JOSM il y as aussi possible de ajouter
l'imagerie de Mapbox. Mapbox ils nous fournissent aussi de l'imagerie,
comme Bing. Tu vas le retrouvé à coté l'onglet de Bing. Pour Touba il y a
aussi de l'imagerie de Mapbox!
Bonne soirée et bonne mapping!

Jorieke

2014-10-21 15:04 GMT+02:00 Pierre Béland :

>
> Bonjour Serge,
>
> La terre n'est pas encore couverte au complet avec de l'imagerie haute
> résolution. Mais Microsoft a un important programme d'acquisition d'images.
> Sur la carte ci-dessous tu verras une bande rouge verticale où le satellite
> n'est pas encore passé.
>
> http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=14.836308250167647&lon=-15.889917373657234&zoom=13
>
> À noter qu'il y a mainteant un groupe de discussion hot-francophone où les
> contributeurs francophones se retrouvent.
> Voir https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot-francophone/
>
>
> Pierre
>
>   --
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> *À :* "hot@openstreetmap.org" 
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> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 56, Issue 59
>
> j'aimerais savoir pourquoi l'image satellite bing n'est pas disponible sur
> la ville  de Touba.
>
>
>   Le Mardi 21 octobre 2014 7h44, "hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org" <
> hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
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Re: [HOT] Connecting with JP HRO in Delmas 32, PaP

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Hello Jason,
 I am ALCE Samuel Paul, I am working with Open Street Map
in Haiti, and i am Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team member. I (CC) Bully,
Jaakko and Xavier. So please let us know in details what you wanna do.

2014-10-21 15:26 GMT-04:00 Jason McGaughey :

> Hello,
>
> My name is Jason McGaughey and I am the Education Project Manager for the
> J/P Haitian Relief Organization. I am checking to see if this email still
> works.
>
> J/P Haitian Relief Organization would like to get a hold of you for a
> community mapping DRR project. We would like to get a hold of the Haitian
> Open Street Team to conduct this project.
>
> Please contact me at jason.mcgaug...@jphro.org or (509) 4406-0160
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jason
>
> --
>
>
> *Jason McGaughey*
>
>
> Education Project Manager
>
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>
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> Haiti Mobile:  +509 4406 0160
> Haiti Office: +509 2943 2120
>
>
> J/P HRO Accountability Hotline:  +509 4423 3005 (Call or SMS)
>
>
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> programs to the Haitian people quickly and effectively.
>
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[HOT] Connecting with JP HRO in Delmas 32, PaP

[Jason McGaughey]

Hello,

My name is Jason McGaughey and I am the Education Project Manager for the
J/P Haitian Relief Organization. I am checking to see if this email still
works.

J/P Haitian Relief Organization would like to get a hold of you for a
community mapping DRR project. We would like to get a hold of the Haitian
Open Street Team to conduct this project.

Please contact me at jason.mcgaug...@jphro.org or (509) 4406-0160

Thank you,

Jason

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Education Project Manager

*J/P Haitian Relief Organization*

Delmas 48, Port-au-Prince, Haiti
jason.mcgaug...@jphro.org 
Haiti Mobile:  +509 4406 0160
Haiti Office: +509 2943 2120


J/P HRO Accountability Hotline:  +509 4423 3005 (Call or SMS)


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Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

[Dale Kunce]

Blake I also forgot to mention that I think your video you did is great.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Blake Girardot 
wrote:

>
>
> On 10/21/2014 10:19 AM, Pierre Béland wrote:
>
>  For buildings, the best practice is to use JOSM. We should first make
>> videos for JOSM and I dont think that we should favor people using ID
>> for example until a building plugin is provided.
>>
>
> Hi Pierre,
>
> I agree with you 100%, but I feel that reality is most new mappers use iD
> and new mappers need support materials the most.
>
> Done correctly iD can do the same job JOSM can for W. Africa building
> mapping. It is a tiny bit more work, but not that bad.
>
> The main thing is getting new mappers doing high quality mapping as
> quickly as possible in whatever editor they want to use. If they are doing
> the sort of mapping that JOSM makes easier but using iD I do not think it
> matters at all they are using iD.
>
> Having done a few informal tutorials, both text and video for HOT mapping,
> every time I did only JOSM, I got a couple of emails asking for the same
> thing in iD so now I focus on iD first and JOSM second.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [HOT] cultivated areas in ETC sections?

[Pierre Béland]

Hi Charlotte

For the place you provided, I see some landuse areas tagged as wetland. But 
zooming-in, it looks more like farmlands.  

And as Andrew is saying, let's discuss in the other thread.
 
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Hi Charlotte

For the place you provided, I see some landuse areas tagged as wetland. But 
zooming-in, it looks more like farmlands.  

And as Andrew is saying, let's discuss in the other thread.

 
Pierre 




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This is an example of the cassava plantations that are being discussed
in the other thread.  See there for pictures, as well as tagging
discussion.

- -AndrewBuck


On 10/21/2014 12:43 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
> Hello
 all,
> 
> I am mapping one of the ETC sections, and am seeing what looks like
> small dots or circles, especially clustered around the low-lying 
> areas that seem to be used for farming. Does anyone know if these
> dots represent farming, perhaps something like manioc?   We've been
> asked to Here's a link to one area: 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&#map=19/8.83837/-12.04526
>
>  Charlotte
> 
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Re: [HOT] HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations (HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations in Africa (as for cassava, manioc)

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The landuse mapping in question is being done around the 5 ebola
treatment centers for context and planning around the centers.  Also,
in the coming months food security will be an issue for these
countries, so even if we don't make mapping them a priority, it still
makes sense to discuss how these things can be identified and tagged.

- -AndrewBuck

On 10/21/2014 01:14 PM, Pierre Béland wrote:
> 
> 
> Note that for the Ebola Activation is quite a huge task and  our
> priority so far with the large territories to cover is more about
> roads, settlements and place names. It is up to each of you to
> decide if  you have the time to map the farmlands and orchards.
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
> 
>  De : Andrew Buck
>  À : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le :
> Mardi 21 octobre 2014 14h08 Objet : Re: [HOT] HOTOSM #699: About
> identification of plantations (HOTOSM #699: About identification of
> plantations in Africa (as for cassava, manioc)
> 
> 
> This tagging sounds reasonable to me, the only thing I wanted to
> add was that when you are tagging orchards there are other trees
> that are planted in orchards in straight rows in this area (for
> example rubber tree plantations/orchards).  The way you can
> identify that the trees are palm trees is by zooming in in the
> high-res imagery and looking at the trees themselves.  Palms will
> have a spikey "star" shape when seen from above that other kinds of
> trees do not have.  If you are not sure about the species, just tag
> it as an orchard and omit the species tag.
> 
> -AndrewBuck
> 
> 
> On 10/21/2014 12:21 PM, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
>> I have looked at the imagery and this detail is easily
>> identified.
> 
>> I have started tagging it as landuse=plantation and 
>> species=cassava (manioc)
> 
>> If there is a problem with this tagging please let me know and I 
>> can change it. I am making a note of where I am doing this in
>> case it changes.
> 
>> The other easily identified feature is the palm tree orchards
>> which are generally neatly planted in patterned rows. I tag these
>> as landuse=orchard and species=palm.
> 
>> Thank you Sergio.
> 
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[HOT] seeking your help on OSM data extraction tutorial

[Mikel Maron]

HOTties

I'm seeking someone(s) to collaborate in putting together and delivering a 
short tutorial on extraction and distribution of OSM data.

This need arose in discussion with ebola response. There are several catalogs 
publishing snapshots of OSM data, but it's unclear what work flow is in place 
to keep those snapshots fresh as OSM grows. The idea is to write up very brief 
documentation (perhaps in a GIST), and then deliver a short tutorial session 
30-60 minutes. There's a half dozen people already stepped up to take part, and 
likely many more.


This tutorial should cover best practice and example workflows. Start with the 
basics, and move into more specialized topics over the time (so that folks can 
drop off when they've gotten what they need).

Idea for an agenda:
* Start with the key concepts of how OSM data is updated and replicated
* Dive into the use of HOT Exports, OverPass Turbo, QuickOSM, geofabrik 
extracts.
* Explore best workflows for cataloging services to keep their OSM data fresh 
and clearly sourced.
* Think about some opportunities for the future, like running replication 
servers inside GIS units.


Are you interested to help? Get in touch!

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Re: [HOT] cultivated areas in ETC sections?

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This is an example of the cassava plantations that are being discussed
in the other thread.  See there for pictures, as well as tagging
discussion.

- -AndrewBuck


On 10/21/2014 12:43 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I am mapping one of the ETC sections, and am seeing what looks like
> small dots or circles, especially clustered around the low-lying 
> areas that seem to be used for farming. Does anyone know if these
> dots represent farming, perhaps something like manioc?   We've been
> asked to Here's a link to one area: 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&#map=19/8.83837/-12.04526
>
>  Charlotte
> 
> 
> 
> Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 
> 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady
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Re: [HOT] HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations (HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations in Africa (as for cassava, manioc)

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This tagging sounds reasonable to me, the only thing I wanted to add
was that when you are tagging orchards there are other trees that are
planted in orchards in straight rows in this area (for example rubber
tree plantations/orchards).  The way you can identify that the trees
are palm trees is by zooming in in the high-res imagery and looking at
the trees themselves.  Palms will have a spikey "star" shape when seen
from above that other kinds of trees do not have.  If you are not sure
about the species, just tag it as an orchard and omit the species tag.

- -AndrewBuck


On 10/21/2014 12:21 PM, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
> I have looked at the imagery and this detail is easily identified.
> 
> I have started tagging it as landuse=plantation and
> species=cassava (manioc)
> 
> If there is a problem with this tagging please let me know and I
> can change it. I am making a note of where I am doing this in case
> it changes.
> 
> The other easily identified feature is the palm tree orchards which
> are generally neatly planted in patterned rows. I tag these as
> landuse=orchard and species=palm.
> 
> Thank you Sergio.
> 
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Re: [HOT] HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations (HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations in Africa (as for cassava, manioc)

[S Volk]

Hi, Some more about Africa plantations:
Sometimes images shows cassava plantations like rounded light green patterns, 
planted in not very regular rows (new plants).Sometimes shows only brown 
rounded holes, but in the exact place where there were plants that were already 
picked.It only changes from sides to sides of same uncovered lands 
seasonally.Anyway mostly it will be planted again soon, so its allotments 
usually are permanent. So it keeps being the same farmland landcover.
Since it's planted in small strips or areas (once it's a kind of manual 
plantation by few individuals, usually not large areas managed by machines), 
they are sometimes isolated, sometimes following river margins or wetland.
Intending not to complicate too much, I think it will be more useful to map it 
contiguously when brown and green areas are together, since being the same 
seasonal plantation area (not in many disconnected strips, I did it before, but 
I think it's unnecessary perfectionism). Only when it's not disconnected by 
remarkable different features as portions of forest or rivers or non-used 
grassland, it may be mapped continuously). 
Paths can be found going though it by many ways. Plantation borders usually 
almost sure are ways for paths, if found straight paterns.
Also, I think it's better to tag cassava plantation as farmland (not orchard, 
since orchard is more propper for permanent plants, that are not removed in the 
harvest, like apple trees, pepper, etc). Cassava plant is entirely removed, 
since it is a tuberous root. In this area can be seen both green and brown 
areas of cassava planted and removed:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&#map=18/8.78502/-12.00690
In that area can be seen also a plantation of palms, recognized by its long 
leaves and some regular pattern, not being random. Most times I see it tagged 
as forest. Few times as orchard. So I followed tagging as forest (Wood only for 
natural groups). But now I guess, if to be more precise, it would be more 
proper for "orchard" when palms are found planted in regular patterns, since 
it's for picking its fruits (not mostly for cut it to use its wood, as landuse 
tag for forest). But guess it's not worth for changing all done around Africa. 
It makes no much remarkable difference for practice, and there are still much 
more unidentified features to be done.
Also about Sierra Leone 
plantations:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Sierra_Leone
Regards, Sergio. Brazil.From: svo...@hotmail.com
To: hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations (HOTOSM #699: About 
identification of plantations in Africa (as for cassava, manioc)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:55:47 +0300




Hi everybody, I'm contacing you to suggest an OSM wiki note about the 
identification of major plantations in Africa from sattelite imagery, for 
HOTOSM requests.
I realise this need, for example, for "cassava" plantation (manioc). It's one 
of Africa's major rural production, and it's everywhere in sattelite imageries 
we are mapping  (as in Sierra Leone's HOTOSM). 
But I found that many mappers, even experienced, don't know well how to 
identify it (nor softwares do it yet), mistaking it in landcovers as mud, wood, 
scrub, grassland, etc., or mapping alltogether with forests.
In the front page HOTOSM instruction note for 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa, in the picture used 
there to show the type of Africa's "secondary highway tagging" 
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Secondary-highway-sierra-leone-1.png) 
there is a remarkable cassava plantation, at the right side and in the bottom. 
This plantation is characterised by 1 to 1,5m rounded small plants in irregular 
rows, sometimes following river margins, even if dry, other times in isolated 
farm allotments. Its also important for mapping accesses to isolated small 
buildings, because it allows footpaths through it everywhere.
Wouldn't it be worth if you may put a note about cassava plantation (perhaps 
adding a note in the /Highway_Tag_Africa?Maybe in the same picture you use in 
Highway_Tag_Africa, since it's a good aerieal view of cassava, and it's the 
only link quoted people see in the front page instructions for HOTOSM #699? 
I think it would be very usefull for everybody, also for the others Africa's 
HOTOSM.
If you want, could take a look also at this aerial photo of cassava and its 
footnote (or others): 
[http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/bangweulu-floodplain-zambia-aerial-view-of-high-res-stock-photography/72886297]
Thanks, sorry for bad english. Sergio   
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[HOT] cultivated areas in ETC sections?

[Charlotte Wolter]

Hello all,

I am mapping one of the ETC sections, and am seeing what 
looks like small dots or circles, especially clustered around the 
low-lying areas that seem to be used for farming. Does anyone know if 
these dots represent farming, perhaps something like manioc?   We've 
been asked to
Here's a link to one area: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id&#map=19/8.83837/-12.04526


Charlotte



Charlotte Wolter
927 18th Street Suite A
Santa Monica, California
90403
+1-310-597-4040
techl...@techlady.com
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[HOT] HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations (HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations in Africa (as for cassava, manioc)

[AYTOUN RALPH]

I have looked at the imagery and this detail is easily identified.

 I have started tagging it as landuse=plantation and species=cassava
(manioc)

If there is a problem with this tagging please let me know and I can change
it. I am making a note of where I am doing this in case it changes.

The other easily identified feature is the palm tree orchards which are
generally neatly planted in patterned rows. I tag these as landuse=orchard
and species=palm.

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Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

[Blake Girardot]

On 10/21/2014 10:19 AM, Pierre Béland wrote:


For buildings, the best practice is to use JOSM. We should first make
videos for JOSM and I dont think that we should favor people using ID
for example until a building plugin is provided.


Hi Pierre,

I agree with you 100%, but I feel that reality is most new mappers use 
iD and new mappers need support materials the most.


Done correctly iD can do the same job JOSM can for W. Africa building 
mapping. It is a tiny bit more work, but not that bad.


The main thing is getting new mappers doing high quality mapping as 
quickly as possible in whatever editor they want to use. If they are 
doing the sort of mapping that JOSM makes easier but using iD I do not 
think it matters at all they are using iD.


Having done a few informal tutorials, both text and video for HOT 
mapping, every time I did only JOSM, I got a couple of emails asking for 
the same thing in iD so now I focus on iD first and JOSM second.


Cheers,
Blake

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Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

[Blake Girardot]

Hi Dale,

I agree 100% that MapGive has done excellent work. The only videos they 
have done are these that I know of:


http://mapgive.state.gov/learn-to-map/

And that is the main link I give out when posting on forums or any other 
outreach I do. It is how I got started mapping and still think that page 
is the best place for people to quickly get a straight forward, careful 
and well done introduction to HOT mapping.


Do you know anyone at MapGive? Because, yes, they do excellent work and 
if they would be willing to make a few videos that are a little more 
advanced and specific to mapping buildings and roads that would be 
spectacular.


Please let me know and I will contact them and talk with them about it 
if that is ok.


Best wishes,
Blake



On 10/21/2014 11:15 AM, Dale Kunce wrote:

MapGive is already done a lot of this, rather well I might add. Can't we
support them and suggest new videos to create.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Pierre Béland mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr>> wrote:

Last year on the learning WG, we discussed about making videos
tutorials but it did not go further.

This discussion on video tutorials brings in a few questions.

For buildings, the best practice is to use JOSM. We should first
make videos for JOSM and I dont think that we should favor people
using ID for example until a building plugin is provided.

In videos, it is important that Texts on the menu bar be readable.

A Text section that describes action, key pressed for a specific
function, facilitates learning. For example :
- shortkey s Select features
- shortkey a Draw nodes and lines
- shortkey b Buildings
- shortkey x Surface making

I have seen various Tutorials with a detailed Table of contents and
short videos for each task, a few minutes maximum. I think that this
is the best approach. I wonder how verbose we should be.

A platform that facilitates translations should be used.
Pierre


*De :* Blake Girardot mailto:bgirar...@gmail.com>>
*À :* john whelan mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>
*Cc :* "hot@openstreetmap.org "
mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org>>
*Envoyé le :* Mardi 21 octobre 2014 8h12
*Objet :* Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

I intend to re-do this how-to I made in answer to a question on this
list a little while back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042TbopS7HM

It was done without much preparation and to answer some specific
questions so it needs some adjustments (and I make a mistake in mapping
if you look closely), but I think it is close to what you are talking
about for a quick description of mapping buildings.

It also uses iD as that is what the person who asked the question used
and it is what most new mappers will be using.

There should be one like it for JOSM as well which I will do.

I will also do a second one about roads in each editor.

Regards,
Blake





On 10/21/2014 7:58 AM, john whelan wrote:
 > So the fantasy would be a simple screen cast video using
something like
 > HOT task 690 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690
since it uses the high
 > resolution satellite imagery, Kevin Bullock's presentation
 > http://vimeo.com/91880883 covers why
this type is best to work from, the
 > interesting bit starts 5 mins in to the presentation, locally
there have
 > been some clean up issues with lower resolution satellite imagery and
 > mentioning the use of the JOSM building plug in as mentioned by Tom
 > Taylor
 >

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit
 >
 > To come back to the original topic I think you need an overview,
 > starting perhaps with a couple of interviews from two or three AID
 > agencies about why the OSM maps are important to them and how
they are
 > used.  Then flip to the sources of data which are made free to
use such
 > as DigitalGlobe, UN place names, and finally a few mappers putting it
 > altogether.  Given that the maps are useful perhaps Unicef or someone
 > might have some resources for this?  Or the BBC?
 >
 > Cheerio John
 >
 > On 21 October 2014 01:42, Kate Chapman mailto:kate.chap...@hotosm.org>
 > >> wrote:
 >
 >Hi John,
 >
 >There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many
 >recent ones. You are right a simple screencast showing how to
map a
 >building for example would be really helpful. I made some
videos in
 >2010 about mapping from imagery in Haiti and people really enjoyed
 >them.
 >
 >Having updated ones wou

Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

[Dale Kunce]

MapGive is already done a lot of this, rather well I might add. Can't we
support them and suggest new videos to create.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Pierre Béland  wrote:

> Last year on the learning WG, we discussed about making videos tutorials
> but it did not go further.
>
> This discussion on video tutorials brings in a few questions.
>
> For buildings, the best practice is to use JOSM. We should first make
> videos for JOSM and I dont think that we should favor people using ID for
> example until a building plugin is provided.
>
> In videos, it is important that Texts on the menu bar be readable.
>
> A Text section that describes action, key pressed for a specific function,
> facilitates learning. For example :
> - shortkey s Select features
> - shortkey a Draw nodes and lines
> - shortkey b Buildings
> - shortkey x Surface making
>
> I have seen various Tutorials with a detailed Table of contents and short
> videos for each task, a few minutes maximum. I think that this is the best
> approach. I wonder how verbose we should be.
>
> A platform that facilitates translations should be used.
>
> Pierre
>
>   --
>  *De :* Blake Girardot 
> *À :* john whelan 
> *Cc :* "hot@openstreetmap.org" 
> *Envoyé le :* Mardi 21 octobre 2014 8h12
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?
>
> I intend to re-do this how-to I made in answer to a question on this
> list a little while back:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042TbopS7HM
>
> It was done without much preparation and to answer some specific
> questions so it needs some adjustments (and I make a mistake in mapping
> if you look closely), but I think it is close to what you are talking
> about for a quick description of mapping buildings.
>
> It also uses iD as that is what the person who asked the question used
> and it is what most new mappers will be using.
>
> There should be one like it for JOSM as well which I will do.
>
> I will also do a second one about roads in each editor.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/21/2014 7:58 AM, john whelan wrote:
> > So the fantasy would be a simple screen cast video using something like
> > HOT task 690 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690 since it uses the high
> > resolution satellite imagery, Kevin Bullock's presentation
> > http://vimeo.com/91880883 covers why this type is best to work from, the
> > interesting bit starts 5 mins in to the presentation, locally there have
> > been some clean up issues with lower resolution satellite imagery and
> > mentioning the use of the JOSM building plug in as mentioned by Tom
> > Taylor
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit
> >
> > To come back to the original topic I think you need an overview,
> > starting perhaps with a couple of interviews from two or three AID
> > agencies about why the OSM maps are important to them and how they are
> > used.  Then flip to the sources of data which are made free to use such
> > as DigitalGlobe, UN place names, and finally a few mappers putting it
> > altogether.  Given that the maps are useful perhaps Unicef or someone
> > might have some resources for this?  Or the BBC?
> >
> > Cheerio John
> >
> > On 21 October 2014 01:42, Kate Chapman  > > wrote:
> >
> >Hi John,
> >
> >There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many
> >recent ones. You are right a simple screencast showing how to map a
> >building for example would be really helpful. I made some videos in
> >2010 about mapping from imagery in Haiti and people really enjoyed
> >them.
> >
> >Having updated ones would be great.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >-Kate
> >
> >On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM, john whelan  >> wrote:
> >
> >Talking of videos are there any training videos about what HOT
> >expects?
> >
> >The reason I ask is that although we break down to give tasks
> >can we break it down even more.  ie teach someone to do a simple
> >task of map a building using high resolution satellite imagery,
> >sounds dumb but map one in JOSM, q it to square it, tag it
> >building=yes, select, c move the mouse to another v,
> >adjust the four corners, q again etc.
> >
> >The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on You-tube,
> >its simple and has value.
> >
> >Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to tag it
> >or highway=path.
> >
> >We may need expertise to map things like water bodies, rivers,
> >streams and forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa are
> >probably 80% of what needs to be mapped and you don't need a
> >degree in GIS to do this.  Let's delegate what we can.
> >
> >Cheerio John
> >
> >On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman  >> wrote:
> >
> >  

Re: [HOT] HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations (HOTOSM #699: About identification of plantations in Africa (as for cassava, manioc)

[Blake Girardot]

Sergio,

Wow, thank you very much. I have wondered what this was in satellite 
images for a long time and have seen other questions about it.


This is just the exact knowledge sharing HOT needs, I can not thank you 
enough for pointing it out on this list.


I will make sure this information gets added to the wiki!

I think it is easy enough to identify that asking mappers of all skill 
levels to look out for it and map it if they see it would be no problem 
if it is helpful to have mapped.


I might email you with some questions about it once I find some other 
examples.


(Your English is great, you speak it very fluently!)

Cheers,
Blake


On 10/21/2014 10:55 AM, S Volk wrote:

Hi everybody,

I'm contacing you to suggest an OSM wiki note about the identification
of major plantations in Africa from sattelite imagery, for HOTOSM requests.


I realise this need, for example, for "cassava" plantation (manioc).
It's one of Africa's major rural production, and it's everywhere in
sattelite imageries we are mapping (as in Sierra Leone's HOTOSM).


But I found that many mappers, even experienced, don't know well how to
identify it (nor softwares do it yet), mistaking it in landcovers as
mud, wood, scrub, grassland, etc., or mapping alltogether with forests.


In the front page HOTOSM instruction note for
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa, in the picture
used there to show the type of Africa's "secondary highway tagging"
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Secondary-highway-sierra-leone-1.png)there
is a remarkable cassava plantation, at the right side and in the bottom.
This plantation is characterised by 1 to 1,5m rounded small plants in
irregular rows, sometimes following river margins, even if dry, other
times in isolated farm allotments. Its also important for mapping
accesses to isolated small buildings, because it allows footpaths
through it everywhere.


Wouldn't it be worth if you may put a note about cassava plantation
(perhaps adding a note in the /Highway_Tag_Africa?

Maybe in the same picture you use in Highway_Tag_Africa, since it's a
good aerieal view of cassava, and it's the only link quotedpeople see in
the front page instructions for HOTOSM #699?


I think it would be very usefull for everybody, also for the others
Africa's HOTOSM.


If you want, could take a look also at this aerial photo of cassava and
its footnote (or others):
[http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/bangweulu-floodplain-zambia-aerial-view-of-high-res-stock-photography/72886297]


Thanks, sorry for bad english.

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[S Volk]

Hi everybody, I'm contacing you to suggest an OSM wiki note about the 
identification of major plantations in Africa from sattelite imagery, for 
HOTOSM requests.
I realise this need, for example, for "cassava" plantation (manioc). It's one 
of Africa's major rural production, and it's everywhere in sattelite imageries 
we are mapping  (as in Sierra Leone's HOTOSM). 
But I found that many mappers, even experienced, don't know well how to 
identify it (nor softwares do it yet), mistaking it in landcovers as mud, wood, 
scrub, grassland, etc., or mapping alltogether with forests.
In the front page HOTOSM instruction note for 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa, in the picture used 
there to show the type of Africa's "secondary highway tagging" 
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Secondary-highway-sierra-leone-1.png) 
there is a remarkable cassava plantation, at the right side and in the bottom. 
This plantation is characterised by 1 to 1,5m rounded small plants in irregular 
rows, sometimes following river margins, even if dry, other times in isolated 
farm allotments. Its also important for mapping accesses to isolated small 
buildings, because it allows footpaths through it everywhere.
Wouldn't it be worth if you may put a note about cassava plantation (perhaps 
adding a note in the /Highway_Tag_Africa?Maybe in the same picture you use in 
Highway_Tag_Africa, since it's a good aerieal view of cassava, and it's the 
only link quoted people see in the front page instructions for HOTOSM #699? 
I think it would be very usefull for everybody, also for the others Africa's 
HOTOSM.
If you want, could take a look also at this aerial photo of cassava and its 
footnote (or others): 
[http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/bangweulu-floodplain-zambia-aerial-view-of-high-res-stock-photography/72886297]
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Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

[Pierre Béland]

Last year on the learning WG, we discussed about making videos tutorials but it 
did not go further.
 
This discussion on video tutorials brings in a few questions. 

For buildings, the best practice is to use JOSM. We should first make videos 
for JOSM and I dont think that we should favor people using ID for example 
until a building plugin is provided. 

In videos, it is important that Texts on the menu bar be readable.

A Text section that describes action, key pressed for a specific function, 
facilitates learning. For example :
- shortkey s Select features
- shortkey a Draw nodes and lines
- shortkey b Buildings
- shortkey x Surface making

I have seen various Tutorials with a detailed Table of contents and short 
videos for each task, a few minutes maximum. I think that this is the best 
approach. I wonder how verbose we should be.

A platform that facilitates translations should be used.

 
Pierre 




 De : Blake Girardot 
À : john whelan  
Cc : "hot@openstreetmap.org"  
Envoyé le : Mardi 21 octobre 2014 8h12
Objet : Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?
 

I intend to re-do this how-to I made in answer to a question on this 
list a little while back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042TbopS7HM

It was done without much preparation and to answer some specific 
questions so it needs some adjustments (and I make a mistake in mapping 
if you look closely), but I think it is close to what you are talking 
about for a quick description of mapping buildings.

It also uses iD as that is what the person who asked the question used 
and it is what most new mappers will be using.

There should be one like it for JOSM as well which I will do.

I will also do a second one about roads in each editor.

Regards,
Blake





On 10/21/2014 7:58 AM, john whelan wrote:
> So the fantasy would be a simple screen cast video using something like
> HOT task 690 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690 since it uses the high
> resolution satellite imagery, Kevin Bullock's presentation
> http://vimeo.com/91880883 covers why this type is best to work from, the
> interesting bit starts 5 mins in to the presentation, locally there have
> been some clean up issues with lower resolution satellite imagery and
> mentioning the use of the JOSM building plug in as mentioned by Tom
> Taylor
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit
>
> To come back to the original topic I think you need an overview,
> starting perhaps with a couple of interviews from two or three AID
> agencies about why the OSM maps are important to them and how they are
> used.  Then flip to the sources of data which are made free to use such
> as DigitalGlobe, UN place names, and finally a few mappers putting it
> altogether.  Given that the maps are useful perhaps Unicef or someone
> might have some resources for this?  Or the BBC?
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 21 October 2014 01:42, Kate Chapman  > wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many
> recent ones. You are right a simple screencast showing how to map a
> building for example would be really helpful. I made some videos in
> 2010 about mapping from imagery in Haiti and people really enjoyed
> them.
>
> Having updated ones would be great.
>
> Best,
>
> -Kate
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM, john whelan  > wrote:
>
> Talking of videos are there any training videos about what HOT
> expects?
>
> The reason I ask is that although we break down to give tasks
> can we break it down even more.  ie teach someone to do a simple
> task of map a building using high resolution satellite imagery,
> sounds dumb but map one in JOSM, q it to square it, tag it
> building=yes, select, c move the mouse to another v,
> adjust the four corners, q again etc.
>
> The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on You-tube,
> its simple and has value.
>
> Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to tag it
> or highway=path.
>
> We may need expertise to map things like water bodies, rivers,
> streams and forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa are
> probably 80% of what needs to be mapped and you don't need a
> degree in GIS to do this.  Let's delegate what we can.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman  > wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is there a video you think best represents our work? Most
> videos seem to focus on one project or are a talk at a
> conference. Do we have anything that is less specific?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Kate
>
> --
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> Executive Director
> e

Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 56, Issue 59

[Pierre Béland]

Bonjour Serge,

La terre n'est pas encore couverte au complet avec de l'imagerie haute 
résolution. Mais Microsoft a un important programme d'acquisition 
d'images. Sur la carte ci-dessous tu verras une bande rouge verticale où le 
satellite n'est pas encore passé.
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=14.836308250167647&lon=-15.889917373657234&zoom=13


À noter qu'il y a mainteant un groupe de discussion hot-francophone où les 
contributeurs francophones se retrouvent.
Voir https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot-francophone/

  

 
Pierre 




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j'aimerais savoir pourquoi l'image satellite bing n'est pas disponible sur la 
ville  de Touba.


Le Mardi 21 octobre 2014 7h44, "hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org" 
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Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

[Blake Girardot]

I intend to re-do this how-to I made in answer to a question on this 
list a little while back:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=042TbopS7HM

It was done without much preparation and to answer some specific 
questions so it needs some adjustments (and I make a mistake in mapping 
if you look closely), but I think it is close to what you are talking 
about for a quick description of mapping buildings.


It also uses iD as that is what the person who asked the question used 
and it is what most new mappers will be using.


There should be one like it for JOSM as well which I will do.

I will also do a second one about roads in each editor.

Regards,
Blake





On 10/21/2014 7:58 AM, john whelan wrote:

So the fantasy would be a simple screen cast video using something like
HOT task 690 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690 since it uses the high
resolution satellite imagery, Kevin Bullock's presentation
http://vimeo.com/91880883 covers why this type is best to work from, the
interesting bit starts 5 mins in to the presentation, locally there have
been some clean up issues with lower resolution satellite imagery and
mentioning the use of the JOSM building plug in as mentioned by Tom
Taylor
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit

To come back to the original topic I think you need an overview,
starting perhaps with a couple of interviews from two or three AID
agencies about why the OSM maps are important to them and how they are
used.  Then flip to the sources of data which are made free to use such
as DigitalGlobe, UN place names, and finally a few mappers putting it
altogether.  Given that the maps are useful perhaps Unicef or someone
might have some resources for this?  Or the BBC?

Cheerio John

On 21 October 2014 01:42, Kate Chapman mailto:kate.chap...@hotosm.org>> wrote:

Hi John,

There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many
recent ones. You are right a simple screencast showing how to map a
building for example would be really helpful. I made some videos in
2010 about mapping from imagery in Haiti and people really enjoyed
them.

Having updated ones would be great.

Best,

-Kate

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM, john whelan mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Talking of videos are there any training videos about what HOT
expects?

The reason I ask is that although we break down to give tasks
can we break it down even more.  ie teach someone to do a simple
task of map a building using high resolution satellite imagery,
sounds dumb but map one in JOSM, q it to square it, tag it
building=yes, select, c move the mouse to another v,
adjust the four corners, q again etc.

The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on You-tube,
its simple and has value.

Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to tag it
or highway=path.

We may need expertise to map things like water bodies, rivers,
streams and forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa are
probably 80% of what needs to be mapped and you don't need a
degree in GIS to do this.  Let's delegate what we can.

Cheerio John

On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman mailto:kate.chap...@hotosm.org>> wrote:

Hi All,

Is there a video you think best represents our work? Most
videos seem to focus on one project or are a talk at a
conference. Do we have anything that is less specific?

Thanks,

-Kate

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Re: [HOT] Video that Best Represents Our Work?

[john whelan]

So the fantasy would be a simple screen cast video using something like HOT
task 690 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/690 since it uses the high
resolution satellite imagery, Kevin Bullock's presentation
http://vimeo.com/91880883 covers why this type is best to work from, the
interesting bit starts 5 mins in to the presentation, locally there have
been some clean up issues with lower resolution satellite imagery and
mentioning the use of the JOSM building plug in as mentioned by Tom Taylor
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JkiL8wlvJqdVMgGxKXPzF22YzQ-S08Q31zZQna9CTMk/edit

To come back to the original topic I think you need an overview, starting
perhaps with a couple of interviews from two or three AID agencies about
why the OSM maps are important to them and how they are used.  Then flip to
the sources of data which are made free to use such as DigitalGlobe, UN
place names, and finally a few mappers putting it altogether.  Given that
the maps are useful perhaps Unicef or someone might have some resources for
this?  Or the BBC?

Cheerio John

On 21 October 2014 01:42, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many recent
> ones. You are right a simple screencast showing how to map a building for
> example would be really helpful. I made some videos in 2010 about mapping
> from imagery in Haiti and people really enjoyed them.
>
> Having updated ones would be great.
>
> Best,
>
> -Kate
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM, john whelan 
> wrote:
>
>> Talking of videos are there any training videos about what HOT expects?
>>
>> The reason I ask is that although we break down to give tasks can we
>> break it down even more.  ie teach someone to do a simple task of map a
>> building using high resolution satellite imagery, sounds dumb but map one
>> in JOSM, q it to square it, tag it building=yes, select, c move the
>> mouse to another v, adjust the four corners, q again etc.
>>
>> The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on You-tube, its
>> simple and has value.
>>
>> Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to tag it or
>> highway=path.
>>
>> We may need expertise to map things like water bodies, rivers, streams
>> and forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa are probably 80% of what
>> needs to be mapped and you don't need a degree in GIS to do this.  Let's
>> delegate what we can.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Is there a video you think best represents our work? Most videos seem to
>>> focus on one project or are a talk at a conference. Do we have anything
>>> that is less specific?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Kate
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kate Chapman
>>> Executive Director
>>> email: kate.chap...@hotosm.org
>>> U.S. mobile: +1 703 673 8834
>>> Indonesian mobile: +62 82123068370
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Re: [HOT] HOT Digest, Vol 56, Issue 59

[sene magatte]

sk of map a building
> using high resolution satellite imagery, sounds dumb but map one in JOSM, q
> it to square it, tag it building=yes, select, c move the mouse to
> another v, adjust the four corners, q again etc.
>
> The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on You-tube, its
> simple and has value.
>
> Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to tag it or
> highway=path.
>
> We may need expertise to map things like water bodies, rivers, streams and
> forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa are probably 80% of what
> needs to be mapped and you don't need a degree in GIS to do this.  Let's
> delegate what we can.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there a video you think best represents our work? Most videos seem to
>> focus on one project or are a talk at a conference. Do we have anything
>> that is less specific?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> --
>> Kate Chapman
>> Executive Director
>> email: kate.chap...@hotosm.org
>> U.S. mobile: +1 703 673 8834
>> Indonesian mobile: +62 82123068370
>>
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Hi John,

There are a few videos out there, but I don't know of too many recent ones.
You are right a simple screencast showing how to map a building for example
would be really helpful. I made some videos in 2010 about mapping from
imagery in Haiti and people really enjoyed them.

Having updated ones would be great.

Best,

-Kate

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:59 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> Talking of videos are there any training videos about what HOT expects?
>
> The reason I ask is that although we break down to give tasks can we break
> it down even more.  ie teach someone to do a simple task of map a building
> using high resolution satellite imagery, sounds dumb but map one in JOSM, q
> it to square it, tag it building=yes, select, c move the mouse to
> another v, adjust the four corners, q again etc.
>
> The concept is we can teach people to map buildings on You-tube, its
> simple and has value.
>
> Another would teach people how to recognise a road and to tag it or
> highway=path.
>
> We may need expertise to map things like water bodies, rivers, streams and
> forests but buildings and footpaths in Africa are probably 80% of what
> needs to be mapped and you don't need a degree in GIS to do this.  Let's
> delegate what we can.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 20 October 2014 15:55, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there a video you think best represents our work? Most videos seem to
>> focus on one project or are a talk at a conference. Do we have anything
>> that is less specific?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> --
>> Kate Chapman
>> Executive Director
>> email: kate.chap...@hotosm.org
>> U.S. mobile: +1 703 673 8834
>> Indonesian mobile: +62 82123068370
>>
>> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team *
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