[HOT] Article of interest
http://www.scidev.net/global/data/news/space-agency-alliance-ebola.html With the new imagery being talked about, can someone in the know add to what is now available/useful? Didn't see anything in the October archives that looked like the above, so I assume it's being organised on the MSF side of things ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Article of interest
Hi Daniel, Thanks for the link. I am not in the know for this Space Charter activation, except for what I've read on public medias. Since OSM was asked to map in particular areas around Ebola treatment centers (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/699), it is clear that having recent satellite imagery of the areas of interest available to OSM mappers would be useful for up to date data. I think that the Charter activation managers must be aware of this. From what we saw last December regarding Haiyan activation, for example, it is also possible that some people or interests might not quite like this. Let's hope for the best. Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem Le 12/11/2014 10:21, Daniel O'Connor a écrit : > http://www.scidev.net/global/data/news/space-agency-alliance-ebola.html > > With the new imagery being talked about, can someone in the know add > to what is now available/useful? > Didn't see anything in the October archives that looked like the > above, so I assume it's being organised on the MSF side of things > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Validating - Take a Task at Random
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, this definitely is an issue, 'take a random task' should not offer validation squares. As for criteria on who can validate, it might be worth setting up something like you need to have completed at least 5 squares and had at least one validated after you were the last mapper to lock the square (meaning when you marked it complete it really was complete, not just finished by someone else). - -AndrewBuck On 11/12/2014 01:55 AM, Ralf Stephan wrote: > IMHO, the task manager shouldn't automatically assign validation > tasks. The potential problems outweigh any benefits from that > feature. > > Regards, > > On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:33 Nick Allen > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> For info of all who are consciously validating squares (& a few >> who may not realise they have been validating). >> >> I've been contacted concerning one of the very successful recent >> mapathons. A little research after the event has shown that >> several squares of at least one project have been marked as >> validated by mappers extremely new to the system - unfortunately >> the squares are not up to standard and more work is taking place >> to correct this. >> >> We think that the likely scenario is - When all squares of a >> project are either complete or locked by another mapper, Tasking >> Manager will allocate you a square to validate - if you are >> extremely new to the system you probably will not realise what >> has happened and will look round the square & then add a brief >> comment before marking the square as done. Having spoken at >> several mapathons, and listened to other mappers giving guidance >> I know that; a/. you can't say everything before letting someone >> start, & b/. even if you did they probably wouldn't remember it >> all anyway. >> >> I've added to the entry on the tasking manager in learnOSM - link >> is >> http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/tasking-manager/#contribute-tab >> & I ask that validators just bear this in mind - have a quick >> look at the usernames of others who have validated within the >> project you are working on, and be prepared to reopen squares >> that may have already been validated if there are problems. I'm >> not talking about 'they missed one building in the middle of >> 200', I'm talking about buildings should have been traced, there >> were hundreds, but none were traced! >> >> I can see how easy a mistake it is to make, and I think it's >> something we should be aware of and try to negate in the future. >> Meanwhile I suggest that if you find one, send a message to the >> mapper concerned including the above link. >> >> To my knowledge there has never been a decision about what >> qualifications are required before someone validates, and I'm not >> sure there is an answer to that - a few of my thoughts; 1. I've >> checked up on one validator who had (at the time I checked) >> never completed a square - extremely good mapper with lots of >> experience in other areas of mapping, and gives good feedback - >> if it's you, keep up the good work, thanks. 2. I found someone >> mapping on the day their OSM username was issued. Their mapping >> was obviously well beyond the standard we expect of a new >> mapper. On sending a message I established they wanted a new >> username to use whilst mapping for HOT - I asked them to start >> validating. Again, keep up the good work, thanks. 3. I'm still >> learning. >> >> Perhaps this is something for discussion at one of the working >> groups. -- >> >> Nick >> >> Volunteer 'Tallguy' for >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy >> >> Treasurer, website & Bonus Ball admin for >> http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ >> (treasu...@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk) >> ___ HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > > > ___ HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUY3yLAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbmcAP+QEZF51G4uXSY6BZVxHWhjab z8BVq76bP8SMPASfQPHWRutFb0bijDIUkgBr8erv9FZItQTWmnsVprJ/Ruw0jF3f OYNwVXEtBf3UiY+qqL0s3y2KN8FGARl99/HvIGfLYfLvUmSDGNsnLd2v1cI8tB/9 IY7hZPj4C5fIq6AljT32XkBAABdVXm8QXddHZhWDppTXxjxWWmV6pyfn7wwaCTRE WyEz6+LmpUVdyNaiynuvaCthcqBQ4auZjcDunnB76L69PLznHL+4N/vcm3SEZAeK M0/w+7ec4vhA8QuM/tGKCzez1GCXCP/INJIX3KdRGNbKCautTKmgsXZY95e7Kqjx 1H+zlMMv8CTVqDecVNjOMRMP4VkZzpRZezTLg0YBLSAEA+xp6DQBhQpkxKlL7fQt Oischlq/Wte2x0zqO9kgJ4PuhCe6VxzScvkY/EVpqUHuWU+KoxPU6CuFOOgGheGb vKVd7rybf7qy/2Yyniy5tHxEoWnQLz3KSPWbYWc7+rWmsV6bhScvRr7xTt706ylu dt8H6Z0yIM9d5TUMK2r+aW3mlUegJR+go1unznzK7GHH+XxQpFs1YjjokpeqfYj1 XfPQqwVD1cABeyZvOElpHNVMtN9L2TdA+w+2n7fX1fa62sLINJQsXVJ/RuVB/jcc ow3pG7Qmd4+wr1iaQIbj =8S9U -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT
Re: [HOT] Validating - Take a Task at Random
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:28:11 -0600 Andrew Buck wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yeah, this definitely is an issue, 'take a random task' should not > offer validation squares. > I did not see this issue in the TM's issue list. Just FYI. https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/446 cheers - ray ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Trees
I know they're nice but why would anyone spend time mapping trees rather than buildings in a HOT area? Or did I miss something in the tasks? Thanks Cheerio John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Trees
I don't think you missed anything in the Project instructions for individual trees. But with the missing maps project, OSMGeoWeek and other assorted welcome to mapping type events it just be someone who thought it would be fun to map in a few trees. I saw a couple of those recently when doing some validation. So that is my guess: Someone just wanted to map in some trees for fun and/or experimentation with mapping, tagging and/or rendering. As Bob Ross might ask: "Who doesn't like happy little trees?" Cheers On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM, john whelan wrote: > I know they're nice but why would anyone spend time mapping trees rather > than buildings in a HOT area? Or did I miss something in the tasks? > > Thanks > > Cheerio John > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Trees
I'm happy and content and they are much easier to map than buildings but I just wondered if there was any logic behind it other than they had grown tired of mapping buildings. Thanks John On 12 November 2014 19:14, Blake Girardot wrote: > I don't think you missed anything in the Project instructions for > individual trees. But with the missing maps project, OSMGeoWeek and other > assorted welcome to mapping type events it just be someone who thought it > would be fun to map in a few trees. I saw a couple of those recently when > doing some validation. > > So that is my guess: Someone just wanted to map in some trees for fun > and/or experimentation with mapping, tagging and/or rendering. As Bob Ross > might ask: "Who doesn't like happy little trees?" > > Cheers > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM, john whelan > wrote: > >> I know they're nice but why would anyone spend time mapping trees rather >> than buildings in a HOT area? Or did I miss something in the tasks? >> >> Thanks >> >> Cheerio John >> >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Trees
One reason is if the tree is a significant landmark. Tom Taylor On 12/11/2014 7:27 PM, john whelan wrote: I'm happy and content and they are much easier to map than buildings but I just wondered if there was any logic behind it other than they had grown tired of mapping buildings. Thanks John On 12 November 2014 19:14, Blake Girardot wrote: I don't think you missed anything in the Project instructions for individual trees. But with the missing maps project, OSMGeoWeek and other assorted welcome to mapping type events it just be someone who thought it would be fun to map in a few trees. I saw a couple of those recently when doing some validation. So that is my guess: Someone just wanted to map in some trees for fun and/or experimentation with mapping, tagging and/or rendering. As Bob Ross might ask: "Who doesn't like happy little trees?" Cheers On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM, john whelan wrote: I know they're nice but why would anyone spend time mapping trees rather than buildings in a HOT area? Or did I miss something in the tasks? Thanks Cheerio John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Trees
Trust me on this but I don't think these particular ones are. It's in one of the more built up areas and some trees have been mapped but less than a fifth of the trees in the tile have been mapped and the ones that have been seem fairly random. Looking at the other items mapped I suspect they prefer to map water and trees. Cheerio John On 12 November 2014 20:18, Tom Taylor wrote: > One reason is if the tree is a significant landmark. > > Tom Taylor > > > On 12/11/2014 7:27 PM, john whelan wrote: > >> I'm happy and content and they are much easier to map than buildings but I >> just wondered if there was any logic behind it other than they had grown >> tired of mapping buildings. >> >> Thanks John >> >> On 12 November 2014 19:14, Blake Girardot wrote: >> >> I don't think you missed anything in the Project instructions for >>> individual trees. But with the missing maps project, OSMGeoWeek and other >>> assorted welcome to mapping type events it just be someone who thought it >>> would be fun to map in a few trees. I saw a couple of those recently when >>> doing some validation. >>> >>> So that is my guess: Someone just wanted to map in some trees for fun >>> and/or experimentation with mapping, tagging and/or rendering. As Bob >>> Ross >>> might ask: "Who doesn't like happy little trees?" >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:45 PM, john whelan >>> wrote: >>> >>> I know they're nice but why would anyone spend time mapping trees rather than buildings in a HOT area? Or did I miss something in the tasks? Thanks Cheerio John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >> >> >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
