Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting 01.2015
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi everyone, this is just a short reminder that TWG 01.2015 will start on IRC #hot in couple of hours. Dražen On 08.01.2015 15:25, Dražen Odobašić wrote: Hi everyone, I guess we should get back to regular TWG meetings, Training Working group has 'hogged' :), first Monday of the month, we are going to move our TWG meetings to the second Monday of the month. So, the next Tech WG meeting is scheduled on #hot IRC at 17:00 UTC, next Monday (12.01.2015.) [0] If you want to report/discuss something please update the document, the order is not important: https://hackpad.com/TWG-Meeting-01.2015-Tentative-Agenda-MeBF1sV2xmo Dražen [0] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=TWG+01.2015iso=20150112T17 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUs8v2AAoJENKPwRouT2y9VdcIAIn551HJPDb9tNJnNgdsCXLK wJSotdozrzHc4uKDpQGiyKhB2KWyj5G8g/Xhw5xuM+CuYWYedX/V4pg4XBr16txZ yrtT1AI/9dKGikqzFFkIONfW+l0PdBvgTFwP80u6Wo7InqeS4vbnQjDLHIv/Vw1T ieYXrmyaaVrntYePRfx8D60v1Luvs5P4IM0LbW866M4yItz1UoHUrm0shk+Jpgcl iyHW26snR7PGMfc8+tfYFLmelT9AViHtTvBSbWjGnwiKK6a8GIjVdMw8I1VUyJhL UtL36u78qL+uK9MCP/Yd8ETjswOKw1BE9ulOcl+W3kgq2CVYBP9j4Zi77K4/svk= =ndjv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] The number of projects we have open and the completion rate.
John and all, This is probably more of a human resource issue than technical, although technical improvements can make it easier on us. I think it comes down to the coordinators, unfortunately no matter how much we improve things like the Tasking Manager, we will still need dedicated coordinators to keep up the interest and make clear asks to the community. In the cases where we do have people ‘championing’ projects, they typically are more thoroughly completed (and validated). I would also suggest that those interested in this topic to jump in on the next Activation Working Group meeting, we still have work to do to help define and guide a mapping project/activation from start to finish. Thanks for pushing us to do better, I’m sure we can; =Russ Russell Deffner mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org russell.deff...@hotosm.org Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ From: Daniel O'Connor [mailto:daniel.ocon...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:43 PM To: john whelan Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] The number of projects we have open and the completion rate. Related discussion @ https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/428 as well On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I switched from doing villages to an overview project and then came back to the villages. The tiles around the villages are often the first to be done. The ones in the centre where the buildings are are the last to be done. Buildings don't seem to be popular. Many tiles haven't been touched in two months. Looking at the stats it might say that the village is 50% done, reality is probably 15-25% of the objects to be mapped are done, those centre tiles are dense with buildings. At what point on a project do we say we're spread too thin? or do we? What can we do to get more projects finished with the resources we have available? Cheerio John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Activation Working Group meeting
Hi, Just a reminder the Activation Working Group meeting will happen tomorrow at 14 UTC, as we will be the 2nd Tuesday of the month, on the #hot IRC channel on OFTC. Click here http://irc.openstreetmap.org/ if you do not have an IRC client, put an nickname and select the #hot channel at the very bottom of the list before logging. If you do not know what IRC is, it is basically an open platform for texting online in thematic rooms). *Unfortunately, I will not be able to be online tomorrow at that time myself. * For those who think Working Group are Only for top experienced people, get away from there, newcomers!: *you are wrong*. *It is for everybody and I would say especially for newcomers. Because we need more and more people involved in the activations, not only on mapping tasks.* Monitoring humanitarian documentation (to identify crisis we could help + prioritizing mapping in current activations when not specifically requested by humanitarian organizations), update the wikis, participate to specific mapping workflows and imports, validation, contacts with other mappers, etc. If you get bored by only tracing building, there are many ways to contribute in other ways. Providing feedback, suggesting is what any newcomer can do, and it is almost always very useful because it can either provide new good ideas or simply pointing out some things should be explained/described better for people contributing more easily and better. Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!
There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly match the Next View imagery. Cheerio John On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi HOT mappers! Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh. We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the local OSM-ers. The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is still more work to be done... It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand Kamrangirchar https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka by next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active. So for this we count on your joint forces! Mapping tasks: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831 Validation task: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833 But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task. Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-) Best greetings! Jorieke ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!
Hi HOT mappers! Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh. We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the local OSM-ers. The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is still more work to be done... It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand Kamrangirchar https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka by next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active. So for this we count on your joint forces! Mapping tasks: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831 Validation task: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833 But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task. Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-) Best greetings! Jorieke ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!
Hi John, I found the TMS url in iD (Background tab, click on the custom entry) and then added it to JOSM imagery preferences. This is the url: http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/dhaka-23oct2014-flipped/{z}/{x}/{y}.png However, it is odd that it doesn't load automatically in JOSM like it does in iD. Cheers, Blake On 1/13/2015 12:23 AM, john whelan wrote: How does one access the Next View imagery in JOSM? Thanks John On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi HOT mappers! Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh. We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the local OSM-ers. The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is still more work to be done... It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand Kamrangirchar https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka by next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active. So for this we count on your joint forces! Mapping tasks: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831 Validation task: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833 But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task. Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-) Best greetings! Jorieke ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!
I just raise issues, this one looks challenging to say the least. Thanks John On 12 January 2015 at 21:15, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/13/2015 2:57 AM, john whelan wrote: There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly match the Next View imagery. Jorieke might have a different opinion and his is the authority :) but it looks to me like the new nextview imagery is better aligned than bing. I would use it as the main georeference. In addition most things will be mapped with Nextview so might as well keep them all consistent. How did I come to the NextView is better aligned conclusion? visit this spot in JOSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/23.750183/90.368716 And load the bing, nextview and OpenStreetMap GPS Traces (JOSM Imagery Preferences again, select up top, use the arrow in the middle to move it to the bottom list) It is a divided street, you will see Bing has traces going off the side of the road and down the middle of the trees on the divider, the nextview imagery has the traces nicely on each side of the divider on the streets. Hence, to me it looks like the nextview is better aligned. Again, Jorieke would be the authority. Hope that helps. cheers, Blake Cheerio John On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi HOT mappers! Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh. We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the local OSM-ers. The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is still more work to be done... It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source= lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved= 0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand Kamrangirchar https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source= lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved= 0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka by next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active. So for this we count on your joint forces! Mapping tasks: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831 Validation task: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833 But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task. Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-) Best greetings! Jorieke ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!
Oh, I see it is listed in the instructions as well, sorry about that. To use it in JOSM: 0. Copy the imagery URL from iD or from the directions on the task http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/dhaka-23oct2014-flipped/{z}/{x}/{y}.png 1. In JOSM go to Imagery Menu - Imagery Preferences 2. Click on the +TMS button on the right of the bottom list of imagery sources 3. Paste the URL into the first field, it should auto fill in the 3rd field as well. 4. Leave the 2nd field blank 5. Give it a name in the 4th field 6. Click ok on the +TMS dialog, click ok on the Imagery Preferences Then it will appear with the name you gave it in the JOSM Imagery Menu Cheers, Blake On 1/13/2015 12:23 AM, john whelan wrote: How does one access the Next View imagery in JOSM? Thanks John On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi HOT mappers! Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh. We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the local OSM-ers. The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is still more work to be done... It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand Kamrangirchar https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka by next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active. So for this we count on your joint forces! Mapping tasks: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831 Validation task: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833 But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task. Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-) Best greetings! Jorieke ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!
On 1/13/2015 2:57 AM, john whelan wrote: There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly match the Next View imagery. Jorieke might have a different opinion and his is the authority :) but it looks to me like the new nextview imagery is better aligned than bing. I would use it as the main georeference. In addition most things will be mapped with Nextview so might as well keep them all consistent. How did I come to the NextView is better aligned conclusion? visit this spot in JOSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/23.750183/90.368716 And load the bing, nextview and OpenStreetMap GPS Traces (JOSM Imagery Preferences again, select up top, use the arrow in the middle to move it to the bottom list) It is a divided street, you will see Bing has traces going off the side of the road and down the middle of the trees on the divider, the nextview imagery has the traces nicely on each side of the divider on the streets. Hence, to me it looks like the nextview is better aligned. Again, Jorieke would be the authority. Hope that helps. cheers, Blake Cheerio John On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi HOT mappers! Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh. We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the local OSM-ers. The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is still more work to be done... It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand Kamrangirchar https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka by next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active. So for this we count on your joint forces! Mapping tasks: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831 Validation task: - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833 But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task. Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-) Best greetings! Jorieke ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot