Re: [HOT] HOT Tech WG Meeting 01.2015

2015-01-12 Thread Dražen Odobašić
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Hi everyone,

this is just a short reminder that TWG 01.2015 will start on IRC #hot in
couple of hours.

Dražen

On 08.01.2015 15:25, Dražen Odobašić wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I guess we should get back to regular TWG meetings, Training Working group
 has 'hogged' :), first Monday of the month, we are going to move our TWG
 meetings to the second Monday of the month.
 
 
 So, the next Tech WG meeting is scheduled on #hot IRC at 17:00 UTC, next
 Monday (12.01.2015.) [0]
 
 If you want to report/discuss something please update the document, the
 order is not important: 
 https://hackpad.com/TWG-Meeting-01.2015-Tentative-Agenda-MeBF1sV2xmo
 
 
 Dražen
 
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 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=TWG+01.2015iso=20150112T17

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Re: [HOT] The number of projects we have open and the completion rate.

2015-01-12 Thread Russell Deffner
John and all,

 

This is probably more of a human resource issue than technical, although 
technical improvements can make it easier on us. I think it comes down to the 
coordinators, unfortunately no matter how much we improve things like the 
Tasking Manager, we will still need dedicated coordinators to keep up the 
interest and make clear asks to the community. In the cases where we do have 
people ‘championing’ projects, they typically are more thoroughly completed 
(and validated).  I would also suggest that those interested in this topic to 
jump in on the next Activation Working Group meeting, we still have work to do 
to help define and guide a mapping project/activation from start to finish.

 

Thanks for pushing us to do better, I’m sure we can;

=Russ

Russell Deffner

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Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)

 http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ 

 

From: Daniel O'Connor [mailto:daniel.ocon...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:43 PM
To: john whelan
Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [HOT] The number of projects we have open and the completion rate.

 

Related discussion @ https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/428 
as well

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:

I switched from doing villages to an overview project and then came back to the 
villages.  The tiles around the villages are often the first to be done.  The 
ones in the centre where the buildings are are the last to be done.  Buildings 
don't seem to be popular.  Many tiles haven't been touched in two months.

Looking at the stats it might say that the village is 50% done, reality is 
probably 15-25% of the objects to be mapped are done,  those centre tiles are 
dense with buildings.

At what point on a project do we say we're spread too thin?  or do we?

What can we do to get more projects finished with the resources we have 
available?

Cheerio John


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[HOT] Activation Working Group meeting

2015-01-12 Thread Severin Menard
Hi,

Just a reminder the Activation Working Group meeting will happen tomorrow
at 14 UTC, as we will be the 2nd Tuesday of the month, on the #hot IRC
channel on OFTC. Click here http://irc.openstreetmap.org/ if you do not
have an IRC client, put an nickname and select the #hot channel at the very
bottom of the list before logging. If you do not know what IRC is, it is
basically an open platform for texting online in thematic rooms).

*Unfortunately, I will not be able to be online tomorrow at that time
myself. *

For those who think Working Group are Only for top experienced people, get
away from there, newcomers!: *you are wrong*.

*It is for everybody and I would say especially for newcomers. Because we
need more and more people involved in the activations, not only on mapping
tasks.*

Monitoring humanitarian documentation (to identify crisis we could help +
prioritizing mapping in current activations when not specifically requested
by humanitarian organizations), update the wikis, participate to specific
mapping workflows and imports, validation, contacts with other mappers,
etc. If you get bored by only tracing building, there are many ways to
contribute in other ways.

Providing feedback, suggesting is what any newcomer can do, and it is
almost always very useful because it can either provide new good ideas or
simply pointing out some things should be explained/described better for
people contributing more easily and better.

Sincerely,

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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

2015-01-12 Thread john whelan
There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly
match the Next View imagery.

Cheerio John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi HOT mappers!

 Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the umbrella
 of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the
 capital of Bangladesh.

 We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready
 to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as
 coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the
 local OSM-ers.

 The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide
 mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week
 there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is
 still more work to be done...

 It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
 https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand
 Kamrangirchar
 https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka
  by
 next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka
 where a lot of ngos are active.

 So for this we count on your joint forces!

 Mapping tasks:
 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

 Validation task:
 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

 But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded.
 I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find
 it back in the instructions of each task.

 Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

 Best greetings!

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[HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

2015-01-12 Thread Jorieke Vyncke
Hi HOT mappers!

Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the umbrella
of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods of Dhaka, the
capital of Bangladesh.

We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are ready to
collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters (as coordinator
of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to support the local OSM-ers.

The local community is mapping already, but the help of the worldwide
mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field survey. Last week
there was a mapping party in London, and they did a great job, but there is
still more work to be done...

It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand
Kamrangirchar
https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka
by
next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in Dhaka
where a lot of ngos are active.

So for this we count on your joint forces!

Mapping tasks:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

Validation task:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so crowded.
I made a small presentation on how you best can map the areas. You can find
it back in the instructions of each task.

Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

Best greetings!

Jorieke
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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

2015-01-12 Thread Blake Girardot

Hi John,

I found the TMS url in iD (Background tab, click on the custom entry) 
and then added it to JOSM imagery preferences.


This is the url:

http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/dhaka-23oct2014-flipped/{z}/{x}/{y}.png

However, it is odd that it doesn't load automatically in JOSM like it 
does in iD.


Cheers,
Blake



On 1/13/2015 12:23 AM, john whelan wrote:

How does one access the Next View imagery in JOSM?

Thanks John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com
mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi HOT mappers!

Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the
umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods
of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.

We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are
ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters
(as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to
support the local OSM-ers.

The local community is mapping already, but the help of the
worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field
survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did
a great job, but there is still more work to be done...

It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh

https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand
Kamrangirchar

https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka
 by
next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in
Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active.

So for this we count on your joint forces!

Mapping tasks:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

Validation task:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the
areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task.

Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

Best greetings!

Jorieke



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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

2015-01-12 Thread john whelan
I just raise issues, this one looks challenging to say the least.

Thanks John

On 12 January 2015 at 21:15, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 1/13/2015 2:57 AM, john whelan wrote:

  There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly
  match the Next View imagery.


 Jorieke might have a different opinion and his is the authority :) but it
 looks to me like the new nextview imagery is better aligned than bing. I
 would use it as the main georeference. In addition most things will be
 mapped with Nextview so might as well keep them all consistent.

 How did I come to the NextView is better aligned conclusion?

 visit this spot in JOSM:

 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/23.750183/90.368716

 And load the bing, nextview and OpenStreetMap GPS Traces (JOSM Imagery
 Preferences again, select up top, use the arrow in the middle to move it to
 the bottom list)

 It is a divided street, you will see Bing has traces going off the side of
 the road and down the middle of the trees on the divider, the nextview
 imagery has the traces nicely on each side of the divider on the streets.

 Hence, to me it looks like the nextview is better aligned.

 Again, Jorieke would be the authority.

 Hope that helps.

 cheers,
 Blake





 Cheerio John

 On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com
 mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi HOT mappers!

 Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the
 umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods
 of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.

 We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are
 ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters
 (as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to
 support the local OSM-ers.

 The local community is mapping already, but the help of the
 worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field
 survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did
 a great job, but there is still more work to be done...

 It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh
 https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=
 lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=
 0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand
 Kamrangirchar
 https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=
 lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=
 0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka by
 next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in
 Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active.

 So for this we count on your joint forces!

 Mapping tasks:
 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

 Validation task:
 - http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

 But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
 crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the
 areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task.

 Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

 Best greetings!

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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

2015-01-12 Thread Blake Girardot


Oh, I see it is listed in the instructions as well, sorry about that.

To use it in JOSM:

0. Copy the imagery URL from iD or from the directions on the task

http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/dhaka-23oct2014-flipped/{z}/{x}/{y}.png

1. In JOSM go to Imagery Menu - Imagery Preferences
2. Click on the +TMS button on the right of the bottom list of imagery 
sources
3. Paste the URL into the first field, it should auto fill in the 3rd 
field as well.

4. Leave the 2nd field blank
5. Give it a name in the 4th field
6. Click ok on the +TMS dialog, click ok on the Imagery Preferences

Then it will appear with the name you gave it in the JOSM Imagery Menu

Cheers,
Blake




On 1/13/2015 12:23 AM, john whelan wrote:

How does one access the Next View imagery in JOSM?

Thanks John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com
mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi HOT mappers!

Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the
umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods
of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.

We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are
ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters
(as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to
support the local OSM-ers.

The local community is mapping already, but the help of the
worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field
survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did
a great job, but there is still more work to be done...

It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh

https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand
Kamrangirchar

https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka
 by
next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in
Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active.

So for this we count on your joint forces!

Mapping tasks:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

Validation task:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the
areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task.

Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

Best greetings!

Jorieke



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Re: [HOT] Mapping in Dhaka, Bangladesh!

2015-01-12 Thread Blake Girardot


On 1/13/2015 2:57 AM, john whelan wrote:

 There seems to be an alignment problem, the Bing imagery doesn't exactly
 match the Next View imagery.


Jorieke might have a different opinion and his is the authority :) but 
it looks to me like the new nextview imagery is better aligned than 
bing. I would use it as the main georeference. In addition most things 
will be mapped with Nextview so might as well keep them all consistent.


How did I come to the NextView is better aligned conclusion?

visit this spot in JOSM:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/23.750183/90.368716

And load the bing, nextview and OpenStreetMap GPS Traces (JOSM Imagery 
Preferences again, select up top, use the arrow in the middle to move it 
to the bottom list)


It is a divided street, you will see Bing has traces going off the side 
of the road and down the middle of the trees on the divider, the 
nextview imagery has the traces nicely on each side of the divider on 
the streets.


Hence, to me it looks like the nextview is better aligned.

Again, Jorieke would be the authority.

Hope that helps.

cheers,
Blake






Cheerio John

On 12 January 2015 at 18:10, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com
mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi HOT mappers!

Next week HOT will start mapping in the field again! Under the
umbrella of the Missing Maps Project we will map some neighbourhoods
of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh.

We have mobilized the local Bangladeshi OSM community and they are
ready to collect local points of interest, names, ... Pete Masters
(as coordinator of the Missing Maps Project) and I are going to
support the local OSM-ers.

The local community is mapping already, but the help of the
worldwide mapping community is welcome to help to prepare the field
survey. Last week there was a mapping party in London, and they did
a great job, but there is still more work to be done...

It would be great to have a (rough) basemap of Hazaribagh

https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Hazaribagh+dhakaand
Kamrangirchar

https://www.google.be/search?q=Hazaribaghes_sm=93source=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=41G0VMitMNLraNy5gJgBved=0CAkQ_AUoAgbiw=1242bih=585#tbm=ischq=Kamrangirchar+dhaka
 by
next saturday. The areas are two very vulnerable neigbourhoods in
Dhaka where a lot of ngos are active.

So for this we count on your joint forces!

Mapping tasks:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/838
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/831

Validation task:
- http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/833

But watch out, these are not easy tasks, because the areas are so
crowded. I made a small presentation on how you best can map the
areas. You can find it back in the instructions of each task.

Looking foreward to see the tasks moving :-)

Best greetings!

Jorieke



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