Re: [HOT] Mapping UNMEER's geo-information resources in Liberia

2015-02-15 Thread FOFANA BAZO BAGNOUMANA
Hum!!!
this map is powered by ESRI???

2015-02-15 3:39 GMT+00:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr:

 The UN Mission for Ebola Emergency Response (UNMEER) launched a web map
 application for Liberia. Various layers of information are presented with
 OpenStreetMap as the basemap.
 see http://www.unmeer-im-liberia.website/

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Re: [HOT] Mapping UNMEER's geo-information resources in Liberia

2015-02-15 Thread Pierre Béland
As usual, Credits are attributed to the various providers. Here OSM for the 
Basemap and Esri to power the map with the Web AppBuilderfor ArcGIS. Pierre 

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My understanding is that Esri has contributed a great deal of time and 
resources to this effort.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 3:04 AM, FOFANA BAZO BAGNOUMANA 
fofana.13b...@gmail.com wrote:

Hum!!! 
this map is powered by ESRI??? 

2015-02-15 3:39 GMT+00:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr:

The UN Mission for Ebola Emergency Response (UNMEER) launched a web map 
application for Liberia. Various layers of information are presented with 
OpenStreetMap as the basemap.
see http://www.unmeer-im-liberia.website/  Pierre 

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Re: [HOT] Mapping UNMEER's geo-information resources in Liberia

2015-02-15 Thread john whelan
It's nice to see the data we added to the OSM map being used.

Cheerio John

On 15 February 2015 at 11:10, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 As usual, Credits are attributed to the various providers. Here OSM for
 the Basemap and Esri to power the map with the Web AppBuilder for ArcGIS.

 Pierre

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  *De :* Vao Matua vaoma...@gmail.com
 *À :* FOFANA BAZO BAGNOUMANA fofana.13b...@gmail.com
 *Cc :* Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr; HOT Openstreetmap 
 hot@openstreetmap.org
 *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 15 février 2015 10h52
 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Mapping UNMEER's geo-information resources in Liberia

 My understanding is that Esri has contributed a great deal of time and
 resources to this effort.


 On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 3:04 AM, FOFANA BAZO BAGNOUMANA 
 fofana.13b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hum!!!
 this map is powered by ESRI???

 2015-02-15 3:39 GMT+00:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr:

 The UN Mission for Ebola Emergency Response (UNMEER) launched a web map
 application for Liberia. Various layers of information are presented with
 OpenStreetMap as the basemap.
 see http://www.unmeer-im-liberia.website/

 Pierre

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[HOT] Validation

2015-02-15 Thread john whelan
Mapping in Africa from satellite images I find I'm adding perhaps half a
dozen settlements when I validate, they're quite quick and easy to do.
Some are huts and are not quite so easy to spot.

Question at what point should I invalidate?  The question arises when
perhaps I've added a dozen settlements and half a dozen highways, I'm
fairly experienced so fairly comfortable the work is OK after I've added in
the validation but there is the question that I've added a dozen
settlements and no one else will be validating.

I'm looking more for pragmatic answers more than anything else, there is a
concern that if I invalidate a tile it may demotivate a mapper and at the
moment we have a lot of tiles to map.

Thanks

Cheerio John
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Re: [HOT] Validation

2015-02-15 Thread Nick Allen
John,

I tend to vary it a bit - My normal comment in the box is something like
'imagery was probably slow to load which is why they were missed', but then
I often add a link to something like
http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/#buildings-compounds-amp-barriers
and a casual comment about round huts being explained there, just in case
the mapper isn't recognising them.

Sometimes I'm quite happy to do a lot of missed mapping on the basis that
it can be quite relaxing  pleasant to do so!  If I do add the missing
bits, I normally still add the link  send the message just in case there
is a learning point. When I'm validating for a mapathon I try to actually
see the mapper  get them to add the missing bits.

Although quality control is important, helping each other is more
important. I don't like to see squares invalidated for little reason as it
tends to lead to ill feeling.

I only ever invalidate if there is a lot missing though - we can all miss a
couple of buildings on occasion. I have genuinely had imagery fail to load
properly, so I missed an entire area at one point, and only picked up on it
when working on the adjoining square  realising there had to be something
I had missed.

Keep up the good work.

Regards

NIck
(Tallguy)

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On 15 February 2015 at 23:55, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mapping in Africa from satellite images I find I'm adding perhaps half a
 dozen settlements when I validate, they're quite quick and easy to do.
 Some are huts and are not quite so easy to spot.

 Question at what point should I invalidate?  The question arises when
 perhaps I've added a dozen settlements and half a dozen highways, I'm
 fairly experienced so fairly comfortable the work is OK after I've added in
 the validation but there is the question that I've added a dozen
 settlements and no one else will be validating.

 I'm looking more for pragmatic answers more than anything else, there is a
 concern that if I invalidate a tile it may demotivate a mapper and at the
 moment we have a lot of tiles to map.

 Thanks

 Cheerio John

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Re: [HOT] New task of urban mapping in Erbil, Iraq

2015-02-15 Thread Severin Menard
Hi Claire,

Maybe it would be good you add a priority area covering the area to be
surveyed soon.
I would also and the header we frequently add on top (Author, Requesting
org, etc.) and would emphasize the fact it will be a base for a survey
(IMHO it is a motivation point).

Sincerely,

Severin

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Claire Halleux claire.hall...@hotosm.org
wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 If some of you want to practice a bit more of urban mapping, here is your
 chance!
 I've just created a new small task for an urban suburb of Erbil in Iraq.
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/886

 Some field mapping will follow in the next few days, hopefully after most
 buildings have been traced.
 Contributors with previous experience in urban environments are most
 welcome to support, review and validate other contributors' work.

 Thanks in advance and happy mapping!

 Claire

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Re: [HOT] Validation

2015-02-15 Thread Blake Girardot

Hi John,

It is a difficult question you ask as I feel the same way you and Nick 
do, I really don't want to invalidate squares to avoid discouraging people.


I tend to almost never invalidate a square unless it is obvious that 
someone clicked done thinking that meant they were just done looking 
at it.


So, depending on how much mapping there is to do I usually:

Just do the mapping if it is less than 15 mins worth and make sure to 
let the person who marked it done thank you for the mapping, there was a 
bit more to do so I finished it up. I will also often just map it even 
if it is longer than 15 mins but I end up validating a lot less if that 
is the case on a lot of squares.


Unlock a task square and then just directly message the person and ask 
them if they could map a bit more. I only do this if we are talking a 
square completed in the past day or two.


Unlock the task square and find another one to hopefully validate 
quicker if my time is limited. I know this is a terrible solution.


There are probably some programmatic things to improve the situation 
that could be done:


1. Dialog box on marking Done that asks Are you sure you have mapped 
everything in the 'Entities to map' field?


2. Maybe reverse what we have now: No mail gets sent when something is 
invalidated and mail gets sent when something is validated. I don't know 
how many people come back to map if their task square gets invalidated 
anyway, especially if it is weeks or months later so we might not be 
gaining anything by sending the invalidated notice and just discouraging 
people.


I think we would gain a lot more if people got notices of the good job 
they did instead.


And then we wouldn't feel bad to invalidate a task square so it can get 
the attention it needs and we can move on to validate more tasks.


That might be a good simple start, just stop sending the 'invalidated' 
notices.


Thank you for bringing it up, the validation process is tricky and subtle.

Cheers,
Blake




On 2/16/2015 12:55 AM, john whelan wrote:

Mapping in Africa from satellite images I find I'm adding perhaps half a
dozen settlements when I validate, they're quite quick and easy to do.
Some are huts and are not quite so easy to spot.

Question at what point should I invalidate?  The question arises when
perhaps I've added a dozen settlements and half a dozen highways, I'm
fairly experienced so fairly comfortable the work is OK after I've added
in the validation but there is the question that I've added a dozen
settlements and no one else will be validating.

I'm looking more for pragmatic answers more than anything else, there is
a concern that if I invalidate a tile it may demotivate a mapper and at
the moment we have a lot of tiles to map.

Thanks

Cheerio John


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