Re: [HOT] Idle thought time drones
Hello Jon, That would be good, there is some very good software available that employees point cloud technology for high accuracy 3-D mapping that ranges from $4-$10,000. As always, good planning and matching the product to the job requirements is important. Difficult to do on short notice after the fan blades are soiled. Drones are getting more prolific and cheaper, that's true. Battery life is still a problem and regulations are beginning to proliferate. Thanks, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 14-05-2015 02:13 Thursday, kusala nine wrote: i was in san francisco at FOSS4G in March and there was a LOT of talk about opendronemap and the tools developed under open source to create good quality georeferenced imagery. thecost of drones has plummeted in the last couple of years and is now available in large quantitities to mainstream users. It strikes me this could make a big difference even in the search and rescue phases with quick turnaround of imagery on the ground straight to TMS servers. The issue will be locating suitable quantities, processing and creating the right targeted jobs to use it effectively - I think the technology is pretty much there. jon On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:57 AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: HOT already has some experience of drones in Haiti using volunteers. If we can grab the images from them then I'm sure they can be processed in a similar way to the way they are being done in Haiti, we just need to work out what to do with the data. The sensors I strongly suspect just use a different part of the electromagnetic frequency, infra-red / UV for example. Crowdsourcing bit is more map the outline of the fields and give some of the programmers and GIS people something to play with. Initially if we can get 20% of the gains for 1% of the cost of a commercial system then I think its doable and we can build on that. If it works then there will be a lot of people very interested in mapping their bit of the world in OSM to get the benefits. I just float ideas sometimes. Cheerio John On 13 May 2015 at 19:22, Springfield Harrison stellar...@gmail.com wrote: Good thoughts John, This is well underway with much hardware and software having been developed. As with everything, it has challenges. Googling should turn up tons of info on presion agriculture and crop health. The cameras, drones and image processing require fairly high technical knowledge, not likely a crowd activity. Drones have many other uses and may be useful for reckon/mapping in the Nepal disaster. They might be useful to augment helicopter reconnaissance and as a local eye in the sky for ground teams.  I have a back pack drone with an HD camera which can do local inspections for about 20 min. per battery. Very good for inaccessible areas. Drones will be our friends unless misuse brings an early demise. Cheers . . . . .  Spring Harrison Samsung Tab 4 On May 13, 2015 4:00 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I created a grid as a separate data layer using JOSM and saved it to my computer. I pull it in when I need it. The grid interval is based on my preferred zoom level. Tom Taylor TomT5454 On 12/05/2015 7:45 AM, mii...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Dear everybody, I am looking for suggestions on how different people ensure that they have looked at the entire contents of a mapping square. e.g. How do you ensure you have looked at the whole square and found all buildings. At the moment I do a lot of panning and zooming and cover a square in a fairly random manner. I would like to have more structured method to ensure I have covered a square. Something like a transparent grid overlay for JOSM. I know that a task can be split and I have done that to a few squares but have also worked on larger squares. I am using JOSM and am able to figure out how to use all of the functions, sometimes I just don't know what function I am looking for. Thanks, Michael. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Idle thought time drones
Hi Jon, How did that work out in Haiti? Was it just for reconnaissance of damage or for georeferenced mapping? I would think that the data would be collected to suit a specific purpose. Reconnaissance, eye in the sky flying is relatively easy to do, good georeferenced imagery is a few steps up from that. Not sure how well crowd sourcing would work for that. Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 13-05-2015 17:57 Wednesday, john whelan wrote: HOT already has some experience of drones in Haiti using volunteers. If we can grab the images from them then I'm sure they can be processed in a similar way to the way they are being done in Haiti, we just need to work out what to do with the data. The sensors I strongly suspect just use a different part of the electromagnetic frequency, infra-red / UV for example. Crowdsourcing bit is more map the outline of the fields and give some of the programmers and GIS people something to play with. Initially if we can get 20% of the gains for 1% of the cost of a commercial system then I think its doable and we can build on that. If it works then there will be a lot of people very interested in mapping their bit of the world in OSM to get the benefits. I just float ideas sometimes. Cheerio John On 13 May 2015 at 19:22, Springfield Harrison stellar...@gmail.com wrote: Good thoughts John, This is well underway with much hardware and software having been developed. As with everything, it has challenges. Googling should turn up tons of info on presion agriculture and crop health. The cameras, drones and image processing require fairly high technical knowledge, not likely a crowd activity. Drones have many other uses and may be useful for reckon/mapping in the Nepal disaster. They might be useful to augment helicopter reconnaissance and as a local eye in the sky for ground teams.  I have a back pack drone with an HD camera which can do local inspections for about 20 min. per battery. Very good for inaccessible areas. Drones will be our friends unless misuse brings an early demise. Cheers . . . . .  Spring Harrison Samsung Tab 4 On May 13, 2015 4:00 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I created a grid as a separate data layer using JOSM and saved it to my computer. I pull it in when I need it. The grid interval is based on my preferred zoom level. Tom Taylor TomT5454 On 12/05/2015 7:45 AM, mii...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Dear everybody, I am looking for suggestions on how different people ensure that they have looked at the entire contents of a mapping square. e.g. How do you ensure you have looked at the whole square and found all buildings. At the moment I do a lot of panning and zooming and cover a square in a fairly random manner. I would like to have more structured method to ensure I have covered a square. Something like a transparent grid overlay for JOSM. I know that a task can be split and I have done that to a few squares but have also worked on larger squares. I am using JOSM and am able to figure out how to use all of the functions, sometimes I just don't know what function I am looking for. Thanks, Michael. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] TM server down/struggling
Thanks Harry... I'm at the mapping party, so if any admins need to get in touch, contact me directly by email... Cheers, Pete On 15 May 2015 11:54, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote: I'm currently visiting hospital with my wife not in a position to do anything, but getting panicked calls from people at a massive London mapping party because the task manager server is broken. Can someone Ping dodobas on IRC to tackle this urgently? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Photos from Nepal (Sankhu Village)
Thanks Denis Cheers to all the people supporting in the field. Pierre De : Denis Carriere carriere.de...@gmail.com À : hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 15 mai 2015 4h12 Objet : [HOT] Photos from Nepal (Sankhu Village) Being in Nepal at the moment providing mapping support for the military No-Government Organizations (NGO), I come across a lot of people helping and giving me their geo-referenced photos. I thought I would share to the HOT community some of these photos[1] taken only 2 days ago in a village called Sankhu (27.7296, 85.4634). For all the volunteers that are continuing to edit the area of Nepal, thank you very much for your contributions. Cheers! [1] Photos: https://ssl.panoramio.com/user/8566124?show=best ~~Denis, MCpl CarriereCanadian ForcesGIS Project ManagerOP Renaissance Nepal 2015 Twitter: @DenisCarriere OSM: DenisCarriereEmail: carriere.de...@gmail.com ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] TM server down/struggling
Since OSM is up could you map by using the coordinates then pracelling up the area to the mappers but get them to sync often. Not as nice as HOT but it might be possible to do some mapping. Cheerio John On 15 May 2015 at 07:01, Pete Masters pedrito1...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks Harry... I'm at the mapping party, so if any admins need to get in touch, contact me directly by email... Cheers, Pete On 15 May 2015 11:54, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote: I'm currently visiting hospital with my wife not in a position to do anything, but getting panicked calls from people at a massive London mapping party because the task manager server is broken. Can someone Ping dodobas on IRC to tackle this urgently? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] TM server down/struggling
I immediately sent a tweet to Drazen, i hope he picks it up immediately. Samuel Aiyeoribe On Friday, 15 May 2015, 11:48, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote: | I'm currently visiting hospital with my wife not in a position to do anything, but getting panicked calls from people at a massive London mapping party because the task manager server is broken. Can someone Ping dodobas on IRC to tackle this urgently? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone | ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] HOT: Glacial landslide dammed lakes
Dear All, Anyone interested in contributing to the glacial lake database on *OpenStreetMap* would do well to update the information available on the region's glacial lakes via ICIMOD. Follow this link http://apps.geoportal.icimod.org/glacierlakes/index.html, and you will find a ready-made inventory of the Hindu-Kush Himalayas. It has a vast repository of information, including the areas, altitude, length and classifications. The process may already be in place, to transfer this info onto OSM, so I'm sorry if this treads on toes, however, this is a great resource, and I'd encourage anyone who's been familiarising themselves with OSM for the past few weeks to try to get this information from one ICIMOD database into the more easily accessible OSM. Also, the top 21 most dangerous lakes can be found here ( http://geoportal.icimod.org/storymaps/nepalglakes/), with Tsho Rolpa, as mentioned previously, making top of the list. Check it out! You may find lots of the lakes have already been mapped, but any information you can add will always be of benefit! Thanks, Sam Inglis MSc http://hk.linkedin.com/in/saminglis/ https://www.facebook.com/sam.inglis.92 https://twitter.com/the_ice_man_24[image: +852 6036 8750] (+852)+6036+8750[image: sam_urai_24] sam_urai_24 On 13 May 2015 at 06:56, Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sam, I think honestly you’re better placed to tell us how you can help than the other way around. Most of us aren’t glacial lake experts :-) My first thought is that you can trace lakes in the affected areas into OSM. The second would be to help us understand what, if any, risks can result from lakes being dammed by landslides. Are there risks associated with eventual bursts? Do we need to create data in OSM and then try to model these risks in GIS software packages? You tell us! Cheers, Robert — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Sam Inglis sam.ing...@gmail.com wrote: Dear HOT Team, My name is Sam Inglis, and my background is in glacial lake detection, identification and mapping, and was the first person to identify all glacial lakes in the North Patagonian Icefield, Chile. I am familiar with Himalayan mountain ranges, and studied large swathes of the Indo-Tibetan catchment of the Sutlej River, which runs from near Mt Kailash, transects Himachal Pradesh, and terminates in Pakistani territory. I have previously not engaged much in communal, open-source, reactive disaster mapping, but have been adding to the OSM database in Nepal sporadically over the past two weeks, when time has permitted. Yesterday, I saw that NASA had posted an article http://was%20the%20first%20person%20to%20identify%20all%20glacial%20lakes%20in%20the%20North%20Patagonian%20Icefield,%20Chile, on the formation of landslide-dammed lakes along Nepal's rivers, near Gorkha, and was wondering how I can best contribute to enhancing the understanding of the features? How can I help with such hazard detection analysis? Thanks, and I look forward to hearing back from you and the team! Keep up the great work! Sam Inglis MSc http://hk.linkedin.com/in/saminglis/ https://www.facebook.com/sam.inglis.92 https://twitter.com/the_ice_man_24[image: +852 6036 8750] (+852)+6036+8750[image: sam_urai_24] sam_urai_24 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] TM server down/struggling
Good news The Task Manager is back. Sorry for those trying to connect and more particularly for the Mapathons organized today. We will have a close look at this and assure that the server can support this effort. Cheers all. Pierre De : john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com À : Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk Cc : HOT Openstreetmap hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 15 mai 2015 7h05 Objet : Re: [HOT] TM server down/struggling Yesterday I noticed that I had a couple of time out errors but the server come up OK, it maybe just overloaded. Cheerio John On 15 May 2015 at 06:48, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote: | I'm currently visiting hospital with my wife not in a position to do anything, but getting panicked calls from people at a massive London mapping party because the task manager server is broken. Can someone Ping dodobas on IRC to tackle this urgently? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone | ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Mapping high tension power lines in Nepal
Francois, I'm aware of all that, I was just mentioning that unusual tag because it was relevant in the current context. GautamPratik has not made any changesets since the earthquake ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/GautamPratik/history), but maybe you could send a message so if they do have a chance to get back to mapping hydropower in the future, you could help them to use better tagging. Cheers, Brad On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:26 AM, François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The power generation model was refined in 2013 and include some distinction between a power plant and a power generator. It would be convenient and sustainable to take care of this for this concern. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_generation_refinement Power generator only regard any kind of device which convert energy from one sort to another. It should be mapped with power=generator http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dgenerator Power plant is the whole site and can be mapped with an area or a relation if the power plant isn't enclosed with a fence (which is often the case for hydro power plant). power=plant is the tag currently approved. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dplant The hydropower_project tag may be redundant with power=plant. Currently, it may be useful to map power=plant sites features only. Generators are supplementary information only used by specialized mappers. It would be great to don't use any other custom power=* value to allow the largest amount of mapper to work with these datas. I'll add some in my spare time. All the best *François Lacombe* fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux 2015-05-14 17:23 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com: Fyi, user GautamPratik already started entering some hydro sites using the tag hydropower_project:name. Here's a search for that: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9lJ And one for power=generator generally in Nepal: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9lN Cheers, Brad On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Steve Bower sbo...@gmavt.net wrote: The Nepal Electric Authority would likely already have such a map, or relevant data: http://www.nea.org.np/ Page 106 of their annual plan has a transmission line map: http://www.nea.org.np/images/supportive_docs/Annual%20Report-2014.pdf I did not find anything better in a quick search of their web site, but they could probably provide something. Steve On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi, As you may know, helicopters play a critical role in bringing help to Nepalese people affected by April 25 7.8 earthquake, and May 12 7.4 aftershock, with roads blocked or made dangerous by landslides and unstable terrain. A USMC helicopter that was taking part in this effort is missing since May 12. Other helicopters involved in the search and rescue mission report that: A primary concern for ongoing search and rescue efforts is unmarked high tension power lines, which have been reported and bisect many of the valleys in the search area. Some high tension power lines have already been mapped (http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9lx , passed along to those conducting the searches). Starting from electrical dams makes it easier to spot them. If mappers experienced at mapping power lines could give a hand, this would be great. (Or others willing to learn, like me :) ). Bing is available for large parts of Nepal. A focus for current search and rescue effort is around Ghorthali (27.7517 N 86.0342 E) from where a Nepalese local reported seeing a helicopter crash. But of course high tension power lines would also be nice to have for Sindhupalchowk, Dolakha and other affected districts (see http://kathmandulivinglabs.github.io/quake-maps/). (Please download and upload OSM data often, in case other mappers work on the same theme). Thanks, Jean-Guilhem ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Mapping high tension power lines in Nepal
Hi François, See #hot irc where discussions are going on for Nepal. Cheers Pierre De : François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : OpenStreetMap Community in Nepal talk...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap in India talk...@openstreetmap.org; Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com; OSM t...@openstreetmap.org; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.org; Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Envoyé le : Vendredi 15 mai 2015 11h39 Objet : Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Mapping high tension power lines in Nepal Hi Pierre,I will take a look at it this evening.Is there a live discussion taking place on IRC or wherever else than HOT ML to get other contributors in touch ? I'm not so at ease with HOT organisation.It would be great to do this collectively and share the experience around tagging schema.Cheers from Lyon ;)François Le 15 mai 2015 17:08, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Hi François We need various expertises to answer quickly and produce data of quality It would be great if you could extract the Nepal powers in the area of the response around Kathmandu and revise the tagging schema. And say Bonjour to the OSM Lyon contributors meeting at the charming Chez Thibault café. regard Pierre De : François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com À : Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com Cc : HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.org; OSM t...@openstreetmap.org; Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com; OpenStreetMap in India talk...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap Community in Nepal talk...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 15 mai 2015 6h26 Objet : Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Mapping high tension power lines in Nepal Hi, The power generation model was refined in 2013 and include some distinction between a power plant and a power generator. It would be convenient and sustainable to take care of this for this concern. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_generation_refinement Power generator only regard any kind of device which convert energy from one sort to another. It should be mapped with power=generator http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dgenerator Power plant is the whole site and can be mapped with an area or a relation if the power plant isn't enclosed with a fence (which is often the case for hydro power plant). power=plant is the tag currently approved. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dplant The hydropower_project tag may be redundant with power=plant. Currently, it may be useful to map power=plant sites features only. Generators are supplementary information only used by specialized mappers. It would be great to don't use any other custom power=* value to allow the largest amount of mapper to work with these datas. I'll add some in my spare time. All the best François Lacombe fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux 2015-05-14 17:23 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com: Fyi, user GautamPratik already started entering some hydro sites using the tag hydropower_project:name. Here's a search for that: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9lJ And one for power=generator generally in Nepal: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9lN Cheers, Brad On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Steve Bower sbo...@gmavt.net wrote: The Nepal Electric Authority would likely already have such a map, or relevant data:http://www.nea.org.np/ Page 106 of their annual plan has a transmission line map:http://www.nea.org.np/images/supportive_docs/Annual%20Report-2014.pdf I did not find anything better in a quick search of their web site, but they could probably provide something. Steve On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi, As you may know, helicopters play a critical role in bringing help to Nepalese people affected by April 25 7.8 earthquake, and May 12 7.4 aftershock, with roads blocked or made dangerous by landslides and unstable terrain. A USMC helicopter that was taking part in this effort is missing since May 12. Other helicopters involved in the search and rescue mission report that: A primary concern for ongoing search and rescue efforts is unmarked high tension power lines, which have been reported and bisect many of the valleys in the search area. Some high tension power lines have already been mapped (http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9lx , passed along to those conducting the searches). Starting from electrical dams makes it easier to spot them. If mappers experienced at mapping power lines could give a hand, this would be great. (Or others willing to learn, like me :) ). Bing is available for large parts of Nepal. A focus for current search and rescue effort is around Ghorthali (27.7517 N 86.0342 E) from where a Nepalese local reported seeing a helicopter crash. But of course high tension power lines would also be nice to have for Sindhupalchowk,
Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Mapping high tension power lines in Nepal
ian atkinson atkin...@hotmail.com Is over there now on a 4 week secondment, but we did not have time to get him up to speed before he went ... He get told last week end and flew out on the 12th. But being a mapper he may be a useful pair of eyes on the ground ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Ramani Huria
Hi HOT, Am currently volunteering under on a project Branded Dar Ramani Huria which is a swahili translation for Dar Open Maps funded by the World Bank. Am from Uganda. What we are doing basically in the first stage of the project is having the community involved in mapping for flood resilience in Dar es Salaam the capital city of Tanzania on Openstreetmap. The project has a couple of social media accounts plus a website ( ramanihuria.org) The project social media accounts are on: -Facebook: Ramani Huria and OpenStreetMap Tanzania where we want to mobilize a team of HOT mappers in Tanzania during and after the project is done. -Twitter: @RamaniHuria and OSM_TZ -Instagram: ramani.huria and a Flickr account for all our project photos. This month of May 2015 Tanzania has faced a series of heavy rains that have destroyed lots of personal property plus causing the displacement of about 200 people along the banks of river Msimbazi. The former residents have seeked shelter under a bus station. More details are on the website. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Free calls to nepal
Sprint is waiving and crediting calls and text messages made to nepal from april 25th to june 1st. Just saying free calls to nepal as far as communication goes ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] OSM Nepal Reponse - Links to various infos
Hi Stefan, HOT (and OSM) tagging has grown and evolved since we first started 5 or 6 years ago that is for sure. And given the somewhat intermittent participatory nature of OSM and the wiki things can for sure get out of sync. We would welcome any assistance with updating, streamlining and regularizing HOT's tagging and tagging guidance and underlying data model if need be. It is a big project for the folks in and out of HOT who developed and maintain it. It was through gentle ;) feedback from the OSM community that we have started use some more planned tagging schemes you mentioned so there is yet time for some of that to catch up. I am excited for us to roll up our sleeves and give the tagging, guidance, data model and rendering a timely review and updating. At the moment many in HOT are concentrating on working with our fellow travelers in Nepal (and DRC and Vanuatu and Guam and South Sudan and Nigeria and several other places unfortunately), but when that begins to thankfully be less of an urgent matter several of us look forward to joining you fully in the process. And like I said, any reorganization or updating and streaming in the wiki you could help us with in the mean time will be very welcome and appreciated. If you have any questions please just ask them here on the mailing list but under a different email thread so it is less confusing talking about something that has nothing to do with this thread. Cheers, Blake On 5/15/2015 8:43 PM, Stefan Keller wrote: Salut Pierre, hi Will, dear leading HOT members, hello all 2015-05-15 18:44 GMT+02:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Such a response has brought various discussions on the HOT list on how to both respond quickly and assure data quality. I really appreciate your work and the work of all contributors. So excuse me if I'm little bit too harsh now. I'm trying to to collect the minimal common set of HOT tags for specifying a renderer, for future use and for OSM quality in general. Will already answered finally in an earlier post (thanks!) - but I'm sorry to say: What we (OSM) now have in HOT pages is a tag mess since years! Please correct me if I'm wrong. Perhaps there a process on tagging mailing list I'm missing? Here's what I found: To me the potential main HOT tag page is Humanitarian_OSM_Tags [1]. This page is very orphaned - it has been edited twice since 2013(!?). It prominently points to Humanitarian_Data_Background as An up-to-date list of tags for HOT - being a page which has been updated 3.5 years ago (!?). Then I see that no single wiki page with Nepal in its title - including 2015_Nepal_earthquake [3] - is pointing to Humanitarian_OSM_Tags, whereas the Nepal_remote_mapping_guide [4] mainly lists the usual main tags (like building=yes, natural=wood|water, water=*, waterway=river, waterway=stream, landuse=farmland). I would expect at least to see tags like damage:event and idp:camp_site - being top 20 in [6] - to show up in any wiki page related to tags mentioned above. But these aren't even mentioned in the wiki except somehow in [4] - but which was declared outdated 2013. How can we clean up this under-documented mess and tag soup at least for a small common set of tags? Yours, S. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Background [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal_remote_mapping_guide#Tagging [5] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/Humanitarian_Data_Model [6] http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/keys 2015-05-15 18:44 GMT+02:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr: This OSM response for Nepal is quite challenging. And even more difficult for our friends at the Kathmandu Living Labs (KLL) who have to suffer the emotional impact of the second earthquake this week. They also have to move from the famous Yellow house to a school. This should assure them a more secure area to work. Cheers to them that maintain the Nepal earthquake Ushahidi map, provide various mapping services to the humanitarian in the field and assure the interface with the Nepal governement and the various UN Coordination structures for this response (ie The clusters to coordinate sanitation, water, logistic, food distribution, health, etc). As usual, the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap community assures the interface between the OSM community, the UN agencies and the international organizations. We support the OSM remote response from around the word and we co-coordinate with KLL. We both interface with the DHNetwork digital organization and various other groups via Skype. We have a great support from the International Charter (imagery providers), UNOSAT, DigitalGlobe, Airbus, the HIU unit of the US State
