Re: [HOT] Mapping clouds and low resolution imagery

[Dan Joseph]

Hi John,
While Bing imagery is probably the most commonly used imagery for tracing.
There are a variety of other sources. For example, the State Department
through their MapGive initiative (http://mapgive.state.gov/) often provides
recent DigitalGlobe imagery for specific tracing tasks. Also, data might
come from an import (and not having been traced from imagery). Having some
sort of measure of "completeness" of OSM is a difficult question. What do
you use for the denominator in the equation? Mikel Maron wrote a blog post
that might be of interest (
https://www.mapbox.com/blog/how-complete-is-openstreetmap/).
Sounds like you're working on a cool project.
All the best,
Dan

On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 6:13 PM, John Gordon  wrote:

> I am developing a project to incorporate HOT/OSM data into an application
> to plan for and manage food security emergencies in developing countries.
> The HOT/OSM data is converted into a shapefile using the HOT export tool (
> http://export.hotosm.org/en/ ) to link to other data in QGIS.  To begin
> with I am using ground transportation data and population cluster data from
> OSM.  I would also like to include information on impediments to mapping
> including cloud cover and areas of low resolution imagery in BING to permit
> identification of potential problems and permit some forward planning.  I
> have looked for tags or presets for identifying these impediments but have
> not been able to find them.  Can anyone help?
>
> For the moment I have tested a workaround using the OSM AREA tag and the
> keywords "Cloud" or "Lowresolution" as the NAME.  I can then easily create
> a shapefile using the Esri SHP (OSM Schema) and the OSM Data Model in the
> HOT export tool. Would this be an acceptable option?
>
> Thanks
> John
>
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Re: [HOT] Wanna drink your next coffee in a fancy HOT mug?

[Autre Planete]

Greets Everyone !

DATHOT [ sounds like  THAT HOT]

Thank You
Autre

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Ben Abelshausen 
wrote:

> I like OSMonaut and HEAT!
>
> Maybe 'osmole' as in OSM spy...
>
> And the magic mug idea is actually doable, I googled a bit and I'm
> definitely going to have one made... ;-)
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Abelshausen
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Cristiano Giovando <
> cristiano.giova...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for all the great name ideas so far, you have until tonight
>> for more suggestions. As a reminder this is a tool not built just for
>> HOT and the TM, but for the wider OSM community :)
>>
>> In fact, you can enter any admin boundary or placename in the search
>> box and it will return aggregated numbers for just that. Try is at
>> http://hotosm.github.io/osm-dat-frontend just keep in mind that we're
>> still optimizing the geocoder and overpass calls, so it may be a bit
>> slow to zoom to it.
>>
>> So, for names we have:
>>
>> OSM-DAT (OSM Data Analysis Tool)
>> Awesome DAT (a phonetic variation of the above)
>> OSM Analytics (that's the current name in the demo)
>> TM Analytics (tasking manager analytics)
>> TM Dashboard (tasking manager dashboard)
>> T'Mashboard (same as above ...but from Yorkshire!)
>> KnOSM (Know your OSM data)
>> OSMonaut (the OSM data explorer)
>> HEAT (HOT Extent Analysis Tool)
>> OSMologist (the expert about OSM data)
>> OSMetrics (too obvious?)
>> OSMotron (sounds scary, but in ancient greek -tron means tool)
>>
>> Please reply to me quoting your favorite or adding your likes/+1 if
>> you want to participate with choosing the final name.
>>
>>
>> @Pete - I think your heat sensitive appearing-map HOT mug is genius!
>> Why on earth doesn't exist yet?!? What do you think will take to make
>> it?
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Pete Masters
>>  wrote:
>> > Does the mug reveal a change from a sparsely populated OSM map to a
>> fully
>> > mapped version  when hot water is poured? If not, it should ;)
>> >
>> > How about a contraction of Rod's suggestion of TM Dashboard to The
>> > Mashboard. Even better if said by someone from Yorkshire (T' Mashboard).
>> >
>> > By the way, if this wins the mug, something is very wrong!
>> >
>> > Pete
>> >
>> > On 9 Apr 2016 20:39, "Rod Bera"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Cool!
>> >> Excellent and awaited tool in the making!
>> >>
>> >> this tool (or an instance of it) is meant to be linked to  the TM (or
>> an
>> >> instance of it) as a 1-1 relation, right?
>> >> then this should be reflected in the name.
>> >>
>> >> Why not simply TM-analytics ? (I mean for the tool. And HOT
>> TM-analytics
>> >> for the HOT instance).
>> >>
>> >> or taskview/taskmap or TM-dashboard/TM-dashmap.
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Rod
>> >>
>> >> On 08/04/16 10:01, Cristiano Giovando wrote:
>> >> > It's been about a month since we started development of the OSM Data
>> >> > Analysis Tool [0] and we are getting very close to have a full
>> >> > pre-processing workflow [1] and a sleek front-end user interface [2].
>> >> > ...Now we just need a fancy new name for it!
>> >> >
>> >> > So, we are asking for your help - witty hotties - and are giving away
>> >> > one of the hottest HOT gadgets, the HOT mug [3], which will keep
>> >> > coffee hot (or mojito cool?), to who's going to come up with the
>> >> > hottest name for the new prototype tool.
>> >> >
>> >> > We'll have the polls open until Monday, you can reply with your ideas
>> >> > directly in this thread. In the meantime, here's a sneak peak preview
>> >> > of the tool in action [4]. Keep in mind that it's all heavy work in
>> >> > progress, so expect things not to work as expected, yet.
>> >> >
>> >> > Have fun, and mappy Friday!
>> >> >
>> >> > Cristiano
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > [0]
>> >> >
>> https://hotosm.org/updates/2016-03-10_osm_data_analysis_tool_development_kicks_off
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-dat-backend/
>> >> >
>> >> > [2] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-dat-frontend
>> >> >
>> >> > [3] https://goo.gl/photos/4DzMZzPZG946jcex8
>> >> >
>> >> > [4]
>> >> >
>> http://hotosm.github.io/osm-dat-frontend/#/show/polygon:xtqxLq%7CfpB_tHlVq~%40_aDx~G_pB/buildings/recency
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [HOT] Wanna drink your next coffee in a fancy HOT mug?

[Ben Abelshausen]

I like OSMonaut and HEAT!

Maybe 'osmole' as in OSM spy...

And the magic mug idea is actually doable, I googled a bit and I'm
definitely going to have one made... ;-)

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Cristiano Giovando <
cristiano.giova...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Thank you for all the great name ideas so far, you have until tonight
> for more suggestions. As a reminder this is a tool not built just for
> HOT and the TM, but for the wider OSM community :)
>
> In fact, you can enter any admin boundary or placename in the search
> box and it will return aggregated numbers for just that. Try is at
> http://hotosm.github.io/osm-dat-frontend just keep in mind that we're
> still optimizing the geocoder and overpass calls, so it may be a bit
> slow to zoom to it.
>
> So, for names we have:
>
> OSM-DAT (OSM Data Analysis Tool)
> Awesome DAT (a phonetic variation of the above)
> OSM Analytics (that's the current name in the demo)
> TM Analytics (tasking manager analytics)
> TM Dashboard (tasking manager dashboard)
> T'Mashboard (same as above ...but from Yorkshire!)
> KnOSM (Know your OSM data)
> OSMonaut (the OSM data explorer)
> HEAT (HOT Extent Analysis Tool)
> OSMologist (the expert about OSM data)
> OSMetrics (too obvious?)
> OSMotron (sounds scary, but in ancient greek -tron means tool)
>
> Please reply to me quoting your favorite or adding your likes/+1 if
> you want to participate with choosing the final name.
>
>
> @Pete - I think your heat sensitive appearing-map HOT mug is genius!
> Why on earth doesn't exist yet?!? What do you think will take to make
> it?
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Pete Masters
>  wrote:
> > Does the mug reveal a change from a sparsely populated OSM map to a fully
> > mapped version  when hot water is poured? If not, it should ;)
> >
> > How about a contraction of Rod's suggestion of TM Dashboard to The
> > Mashboard. Even better if said by someone from Yorkshire (T' Mashboard).
> >
> > By the way, if this wins the mug, something is very wrong!
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > On 9 Apr 2016 20:39, "Rod Bera"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Cool!
> >> Excellent and awaited tool in the making!
> >>
> >> this tool (or an instance of it) is meant to be linked to  the TM (or an
> >> instance of it) as a 1-1 relation, right?
> >> then this should be reflected in the name.
> >>
> >> Why not simply TM-analytics ? (I mean for the tool. And HOT TM-analytics
> >> for the HOT instance).
> >>
> >> or taskview/taskmap or TM-dashboard/TM-dashmap.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Rod
> >>
> >> On 08/04/16 10:01, Cristiano Giovando wrote:
> >> > It's been about a month since we started development of the OSM Data
> >> > Analysis Tool [0] and we are getting very close to have a full
> >> > pre-processing workflow [1] and a sleek front-end user interface [2].
> >> > ...Now we just need a fancy new name for it!
> >> >
> >> > So, we are asking for your help - witty hotties - and are giving away
> >> > one of the hottest HOT gadgets, the HOT mug [3], which will keep
> >> > coffee hot (or mojito cool?), to who's going to come up with the
> >> > hottest name for the new prototype tool.
> >> >
> >> > We'll have the polls open until Monday, you can reply with your ideas
> >> > directly in this thread. In the meantime, here's a sneak peak preview
> >> > of the tool in action [4]. Keep in mind that it's all heavy work in
> >> > progress, so expect things not to work as expected, yet.
> >> >
> >> > Have fun, and mappy Friday!
> >> >
> >> > Cristiano
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [0]
> >> >
> https://hotosm.org/updates/2016-03-10_osm_data_analysis_tool_development_kicks_off
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-dat-backend/
> >> >
> >> > [2] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-dat-frontend
> >> >
> >> > [3] https://goo.gl/photos/4DzMZzPZG946jcex8
> >> >
> >> > [4]
> >> >
> http://hotosm.github.io/osm-dat-frontend/#/show/polygon:xtqxLq%7CfpB_tHlVq~%40_aDx~G_pB/buildings/recency
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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Re: [HOT] How to become a validator (a suggestion)

[Steve Bower]

Graham,
Excellent questions on an important topic - I think HOT has improved its
mentoring & management of validation & validators, and needs to continue
that effort.

There is a validation course at the HOT Training Center [1], "required
training for, and will teach the essential knowledge required to, perform
the Validation Role during an Activation". I have not taken the course, and
don't know if/how it is "enforced" as a required course.

Regarding "coaching", questioned in your summary list of key points : I
think the point is that validators need to be good coaches, giving feedback
to the mappers being validated (as John clarified). Feedback from
validators has in the past been largely lacking, in my limited experience -
hence new mappers don't always learn from their mistakes. The Tasking
Manager could be enhanced to simplify and encourage feedback from
validators to appropriate mappers.

Mike Thompson : Regarding:

"1) If the instructions explicitly say not to map something (e.g. tracks)
but some were mapped and were done so correctly by the generally accepted
practices in OSM, do you leave them?  I did."


I would give the feedback that it was not necessary to trace the tracks,
and that it would be preferable to stick to the requested features in the
future in order to complete the project as quickly as possible. However,
they were traced correctly, and thank you for the contribution and your
extra work. (As John said, in general the work of others should not be
deleted, only corrected as needed.)

[1] http://courses.hotosm.org/course/index.php?categoryid=2

Cheers,
~~Steve



On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Mike Thompson  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 11:25 AM, john whelan 
> wrote:
>
>> If you read through the wiki it specifically mentions highway=service.
>>
>> >By default, primary/secondary/tertiary/unclassified/residential and
>> service highway =* are
>> supposed to be paved.
>>
> It would be more clear and obvious if highway=service appeared in the
> table with the other possible values, but I will accept this as indicating
> that we should "highway=service" roads in Africa.
>
>
>>
>> When I'm validating then I consider I'm validating the work done by HOT
>> mappers on this project on the tile.  Any previous work that was there
>> before I consider governed by the general rules of OSM ie don't touch it
>> unless its very clearly wrong and even then there is a long winded protocol
>> that it is recommended you follow.  I certainly won't delete anything
>> because it wasn't there on the image.  i can be helpful and looking
>> at the number of edits the mapper has made can give you a clue as well.
>>
> Good advice
>
>>
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Re: [HOT] Wanna drink your next coffee in a fancy HOT mug?

[Cristiano Giovando]

Thank you for all the great name ideas so far, you have until tonight
for more suggestions. As a reminder this is a tool not built just for
HOT and the TM, but for the wider OSM community :)

In fact, you can enter any admin boundary or placename in the search
box and it will return aggregated numbers for just that. Try is at
http://hotosm.github.io/osm-dat-frontend just keep in mind that we're
still optimizing the geocoder and overpass calls, so it may be a bit
slow to zoom to it.

So, for names we have:

OSM-DAT (OSM Data Analysis Tool)
Awesome DAT (a phonetic variation of the above)
OSM Analytics (that's the current name in the demo)
TM Analytics (tasking manager analytics)
TM Dashboard (tasking manager dashboard)
T'Mashboard (same as above ...but from Yorkshire!)
KnOSM (Know your OSM data)
OSMonaut (the OSM data explorer)
HEAT (HOT Extent Analysis Tool)
OSMologist (the expert about OSM data)
OSMetrics (too obvious?)
OSMotron (sounds scary, but in ancient greek -tron means tool)

Please reply to me quoting your favorite or adding your likes/+1 if
you want to participate with choosing the final name.


@Pete - I think your heat sensitive appearing-map HOT mug is genius!
Why on earth doesn't exist yet?!? What do you think will take to make
it?

On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Pete Masters
 wrote:
> Does the mug reveal a change from a sparsely populated OSM map to a fully
> mapped version  when hot water is poured? If not, it should ;)
>
> How about a contraction of Rod's suggestion of TM Dashboard to The
> Mashboard. Even better if said by someone from Yorkshire (T' Mashboard).
>
> By the way, if this wins the mug, something is very wrong!
>
> Pete
>
> On 9 Apr 2016 20:39, "Rod Bera"  wrote:
>>
>> Cool!
>> Excellent and awaited tool in the making!
>>
>> this tool (or an instance of it) is meant to be linked to  the TM (or an
>> instance of it) as a 1-1 relation, right?
>> then this should be reflected in the name.
>>
>> Why not simply TM-analytics ? (I mean for the tool. And HOT TM-analytics
>> for the HOT instance).
>>
>> or taskview/taskmap or TM-dashboard/TM-dashmap.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> On 08/04/16 10:01, Cristiano Giovando wrote:
>> > It's been about a month since we started development of the OSM Data
>> > Analysis Tool [0] and we are getting very close to have a full
>> > pre-processing workflow [1] and a sleek front-end user interface [2].
>> > ...Now we just need a fancy new name for it!
>> >
>> > So, we are asking for your help - witty hotties - and are giving away
>> > one of the hottest HOT gadgets, the HOT mug [3], which will keep
>> > coffee hot (or mojito cool?), to who's going to come up with the
>> > hottest name for the new prototype tool.
>> >
>> > We'll have the polls open until Monday, you can reply with your ideas
>> > directly in this thread. In the meantime, here's a sneak peak preview
>> > of the tool in action [4]. Keep in mind that it's all heavy work in
>> > progress, so expect things not to work as expected, yet.
>> >
>> > Have fun, and mappy Friday!
>> >
>> > Cristiano
>> >
>> >
>> > [0]
>> > https://hotosm.org/updates/2016-03-10_osm_data_analysis_tool_development_kicks_off
>> >
>> > [1] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-dat-backend/
>> >
>> > [2] https://github.com/hotosm/osm-dat-frontend
>> >
>> > [3] https://goo.gl/photos/4DzMZzPZG946jcex8
>> >
>> > [4]
>> > http://hotosm.github.io/osm-dat-frontend/#/show/polygon:xtqxLq%7CfpB_tHlVq~%40_aDx~G_pB/buildings/recency
>> >
>> >
>>
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