[HOT] Hurricane Matthew Mapping Urgently Needed

[Dale Kunce]

Hurricane Matthew continues to strengthen and is advancing on Haiti and the
Bahamas. The next day is very important to keep mapping so that relief and
humanitarian organizations like the Red Cross and others can help those
affected in the coming days.

We need to keep the mapping going. Some areas with potential "catastrophic"
damage are still unmapped.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-matthew-caribbean-haiti-jamaica-cuba-bahamas-forecast-oct2

Please help HOT by contributing the mapping. Task 2196
 is live right now and needs more
mappers. The activation team anticipates additional projects for Haiti and
the Bahamas over the next few days.

Thanks again for your contribution and continued support of HOT.

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Vice-President
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[Arun Ganesh]

For a general JOSM guide, you can use the documentation made by the data
team at Mapbox. Its been designed to be more visual than text heavy, and
includes advanced guides for validations, shortcuts and plugins:

https://www.mapbox.com/mapping/

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:06 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> I was being lazy and didn't want to search through a hundred tutorials to
> find what was needed.  I wanted something fairly quickly to correct someone
> who was mapping iD fairly quickly and productively but was making classic
> mistakes that JOSM catches.  I gave him some feedback and they seem to have
> settled down now.
>
> The written one in French works well, its easy to translate to other
> languages.  The mappers I seem to be dealing with first language is not
> English, French or Spanish so the videos aren't quite so useful.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 3 October 2016 at 15:16, Andrew Wiseman  wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> There are a number of other tutorial videos here on the HOT Youtube page
>> that have subtitles in English, Spanish and some in French:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/hotosm/videos
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, john whelan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
>>> corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
>>> often working in maperthons.
>>>
>>> I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these
>>> days.  I think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
>>> area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
>>> last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
>>> given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
>>> person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
>>> footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
>>> ignore them.
>>>
>>> Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new
>>> mappers coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.
>>> Because the tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the
>>> project it doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get
>>> compounded.
>>>
>>> Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
>>> landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
>>> realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
>>> backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.
>>>
>>> So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
>>> until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
>>> make JOSM easier to use.
>>>
>>> Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
>>> accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
>>> world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
>>> to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
>>> even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
>>> validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
>>> second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
>>> tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
>>> Google or Bing translate.
>>>
>>> On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment
>>> so any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The
>>> project is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the
>>> result.  The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming
>>> along quite nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would
>>> like.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi John,

 We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
 would it be relevant to translate it?):

 http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-ope
 nstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/

 Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.

 Best

 Martin

 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
 From: Blake Girardot  
 To: john whelan  
 Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org"  
  
 Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
tutorial?
 Message-ID:
 
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Hi John,

 Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for 

Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[john whelan]

I was being lazy and didn't want to search through a hundred tutorials to
find what was needed.  I wanted something fairly quickly to correct someone
who was mapping iD fairly quickly and productively but was making classic
mistakes that JOSM catches.  I gave him some feedback and they seem to have
settled down now.

The written one in French works well, its easy to translate to other
languages.  The mappers I seem to be dealing with first language is not
English, French or Spanish so the videos aren't quite so useful.

Cheerio John

On 3 October 2016 at 15:16, Andrew Wiseman  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> There are a number of other tutorial videos here on the HOT Youtube page
> that have subtitles in English, Spanish and some in French:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/hotosm/videos
>
> Andrew
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, john whelan  wrote:
>
>> The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
>> corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
>> often working in maperthons.
>>
>> I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these days.
>> I think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
>> area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
>> last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
>> given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
>> person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
>> footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
>> ignore them.
>>
>> Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new
>> mappers coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.
>> Because the tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the
>> project it doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get
>> compounded.
>>
>> Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
>> landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
>> realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
>> backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.
>>
>> So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
>> until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
>> make JOSM easier to use.
>>
>> Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
>> accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
>> world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
>> to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
>> even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
>> validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
>> second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
>> tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
>> Google or Bing translate.
>>
>> On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment
>> so any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The
>> project is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the
>> result.  The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming
>> along quite nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would
>> like.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
>>> would it be relevant to translate it?):
>>>
>>> http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-ope
>>> nstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/
>>>
>>> Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
>>> From: Blake Girardot  
>>> To: john whelan  
>>> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org"   
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
>>> tutorial?
>>> Message-ID:
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
>>> covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
>>> it comes across though):
>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU
>>>
>>> Feedback from your friend welcome.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Blake
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan  
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> > So how to install,  how to add remote 

Re: [HOT] List of Shelters for Haiti

[Blake Girardot]

Hi Samuel,

Here is the link I have for shelters:

https://www.humanitarianresponse.info/fr/operations/haiti/document/haiti-hurricane-matthew-emergency-evacuation-shelters-september-2016-en

Blake

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 7:39 PM, ALCE, Samuel Paul
 wrote:
> Hello,
>I am currently in Haiti (North, Cap Haitian) and try to get prepared
> for Matthew. If someone know where i can get a list of shelters (updated)
> for all Haiti it would really help...
>
> We are think about how to remove people from the dangerous zone
>
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Re: [HOT] List of Shelters for Haiti

[Denis Carriere]

Unfortunately there isn't many *`evacuation_center`* tags in Haiti, users
have been starting to add these tags in Jaimaica (Well done!)

Other common tags that have been used as evacuation centers are schools and
shelters.

I've prepared 3x GeoJSON datasets from OSM for the following features:

   - *Evacuation Center
   
*
   - *Schools
   
*
   - *Shelters
   
*

https://gist.github.com/DenisCarriere/43898ba4f4330f20d41f3fcd0cd395a1

*Create your own GeoJSON using Overpass Turbo*

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/iXU

Hope this helps!

*~~*
*Denis Carriere*
*GIS Software & Systems Specialist*

*Twitter: @DenisCarriere *
*OSM: DenisCarriere *
GitHub: DenisCarriere 
Email: carriere.de...@gmail.com

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:39 PM, ALCE, Samuel Paul 
wrote:

> Hello,
>I am currently in Haiti (North, Cap Haitian) and try to get
> prepared for Matthew. If someone know where i can get a list of shelters
> (updated) for all Haiti it would really help...
>
> We are think about how to remove people from the dangerous zone
>
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[Andrew Wiseman]

Hi John,

There are a number of other tutorial videos here on the HOT Youtube page
that have subtitles in English, Spanish and some in French:

https://www.youtube.com/user/hotosm/videos

Andrew

On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, john whelan  wrote:

> The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
> corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
> often working in maperthons.
>
> I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these days.
> I think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
> area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
> last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
> given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
> person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
> footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
> ignore them.
>
> Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new
> mappers coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.
> Because the tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the
> project it doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get
> compounded.
>
> Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
> landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
> realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
> backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.
>
> So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
> until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
> make JOSM easier to use.
>
> Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
> accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
> world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
> to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
> even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
> validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
> second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
> tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
> Google or Bing translate.
>
> On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment
> so any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The
> project is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the
> result.  The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming
> along quite nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would
> like.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
>> would it be relevant to translate it?):
>>
>> http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-ope
>> nstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/
>>
>> Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
>> From: Blake Girardot  
>> To: john whelan  
>> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org"   
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
>>  tutorial?
>> Message-ID:
>>   
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
>> covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
>> it comes across though):
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU
>>
>> Feedback from your friend welcome.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Blake
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan  
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, 
>> > how> to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How 
>> > to> select Bing imagery.>> How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key 
>> > when you lose the stuff on the> right.>> And finally how to upload.  So 
>> > setting the token.>> Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen 
>> > mapper who has been told> that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I 
>> > have to clean up after them> with the crossing ways and highways nearly 
>> > meeting when they are quite> capable of doing it themselves and I want 
>> > something basic not how to map a> relationship because that is not what 
>> > most of the HOT stuff is.>> Thanks John>> 
>> > 

[HOT] List of Shelters for Haiti

[ALCE, Samuel Paul]

Hello,
   I am currently in Haiti (North, Cap Haitian) and try to get prepared
for Matthew. If someone know where i can get a list of shelters (updated)
for all Haiti it would really help...

We are think about how to remove people from the dangerous zone
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Re: [HOT] Tasking manager project data

[Pete Masters]

Until you add a space! 'missing maps' = 37 pages ;)

http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=priority=asc=missing+maps_archived=on

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:46 PM, joost schouppe 
wrote:

> It looks like it's only 5 pages?
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/?direction=asc=5=
> missingmaps_archived=on_by=priority
>
> If that's correct, I'd just collect the numbers manually and make a little
> spreadsheet out of them. Then you can use a formula like =concatenate("
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/";REFERENCE TO THE CELL WITH THE
> NUMBER,"/tasks.json" to generate the needed links and start clicking away.
>
> Well, okay, still painful of course :)
>
> 2016-10-03 14:36 GMT+02:00 Pierre GIRAUD :
>
>> Hi Pete,
>>
>> I'm afraid there's nothing built-in currently to do this. Sorry.
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Pete Masters 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi all, we are doing a review exercise of MSF-related Missing Maps
>> mapping.
>> > Is there a way to export the data for Tasking Manager projects. For
>> example,
>> > all the projects created by a specific username? Or all projects with
>> > #MissingMaps specified in the changeset comment?
>> >
>> > Otherwise, I'm gonna have to it manually, which will be painful.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Pete
>> >
>> > --
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>> > Missing Maps Project Coordinator
>> > +44 7921 781 518
>> >
>> > missingmaps.org
>> >
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Re: [HOT] Improving data quality of Maperthons

[john whelan]

Unfortunately most projects and mapathons are not as well organised as the
London ones and I don't think they ever will be.  Often a mapathon is
organised by someone with no or little experience in mapping heading up an
enthusiastic group of none mappers.  The lone mappers are easier to deal
with, there is time to give them feedback as they map, but twenty new
mappers and you know many will be doing something else next Friday night
are more difficult to deal with.

If you take a quick skim through the HOT projects most tiles have not been
validated and even where they are the validation is inconsistent.

When I'm validating a project I'll validate the tiles marked done but its
rare that a project gets completed and there is a fair bit of mapping done
across the project on tiles that aren't marked done.

All I'm suggesting is if the mapathons can group their mapping together
then we stand more chance of catching more of the mistakes.

If all mapathons could be as well organised as the London ones with their
own validators that would be ideal but then I'd have to find something else
to moan about and recently the local bus service has been particularly on
time.

Cheerio John

On 3 October 2016 at 10:44, Ralph Aytoun  wrote:

> I believe we can limit the amount of beginner problems by doing a bit more
> preparation work in advance.
>
> We are trying to alleviate the plight of the beginner by making each task
> less and less i.e. buildings only or highways and residential areas. I
> do not believe that we do ourselves any favours by limiting the work like
> this. This in itself indicates that we all accept that beginners do have a
> limited ability to map correctly. But we let them loose to map buildings
> only and then complain when they do not quite comprehend what it is to map
> roads.
>
> My proposal is to the creator of each task. It is not possible to classify
> roads above tertiary level when you are faced with a whole series of tiles
> in a small corner of a country where there may not even be a city or major
> town in existence. Anything higher than tertiary needs to be done at
> province or country level mapping and needs to be done before the beginners
> are let loose on the map. I would suggest therefore that the major
> connecting highways down to tertiary level should be mapped before setting
> up the project. Then mappers have that framework to work inside and any
> highways they map will be unclassified/ track/ residential/ path. A lot
> easier for them to relate to and understand and a lot easier to explain to
> them as well.
>
> At the London Mapathon we have introduced a new step for the validator
> group that helps with the overall validating and the standard of mapping.
> Instead of the validators starting to validate at the beginning of a
> Mapathon before the new mappers have got to the stage of completing tiles,
> the validators move round the room and look at the work being done by the
> mappers and helping them with any problems they see being done by the
> individuals before they have mapped too much. It means having people at the
> event who will go round looking over the shoulders of mappers to see what
> they have on their screens and whether it is being done correctly or not.
> This method alleviates some of the problems at a live event.
>
> It does not solve the problem of new mappers starting on their own or
> Remote Mapathons where you cannot see what is being mapped until it reaches
> validation stage. It also does not solve the problem of mappers who have
> completed 20 or 30 tiles and starting to validate other people’s work when
> they are still making inexperienced errors themselves.
>
> The very nature of Openstreetmap means that there is no way that this can
> be prevented or stopped, but as validators our task is made easier by
> experience and the tools available to identify the errors. I have attached
> three screen shots – the task showing 70% validated (2164 – Masisi TM) –
> The same area on OSM (2164 – Masisi OSM) - and a slippy map download of the
> whole area showing what it looks like in JOSM (2164 – Masisi JOSM). The
> task was for major road network. My point being that without the overall
> picture it is difficult for anyone to understand what the person two tiles
> away is doing.
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Re: [HOT] Tasking manager project data

[Pierre GIRAUD]

Hi Pete,

I'm afraid there's nothing built-in currently to do this. Sorry.

Pierre

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Pete Masters  wrote:
> Hi all, we are doing a review exercise of MSF-related Missing Maps mapping.
> Is there a way to export the data for Tasking Manager projects. For example,
> all the projects created by a specific username? Or all projects with
> #MissingMaps specified in the changeset comment?
>
> Otherwise, I'm gonna have to it manually, which will be painful.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
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> +44 7921 781 518
>
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[HOT] Tasking manager project data

[Pete Masters]

Hi all, we are doing a review exercise of MSF-related Missing Maps mapping.
Is there a way to export the data for Tasking Manager projects. For
example, all the projects created by a specific username? Or all projects
with #MissingMaps specified in the changeset comment?

Otherwise, I'm gonna have to it manually, which will be painful.

Cheers,

Pete

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Re: [HOT] Improving data quality of Maperthons

[john whelan]

If the mappers concentrated their efforts in one end or corner then even
partially mapped tiles could be validated fairly easily by bringing in the
area into JOSM.  Currently partially completed tiles scattered across the
project are more difficult to spot and validate.

If you do any validation at a mapathon how do you give feedback unless you
know the name that the mapper is using in OSM?  If you know them all fine
if not working out who is which mapper OSM name is awkward and that would
be the only reason for it.

Cheerio John

On 3 October 2016 at 04:26, Pete Masters  wrote:

> Just to make sure I understand, John...
>
> Do you mean ask mappers at physical events to standardise their approach
> to tiles? i.e. north to south or north west corner first?
>
> Not sure what you mean about the pieces of paper, either... The info for
> the tile in the Tasking Manager says who has worked on it and a comment can
> be directed their way
>
> Sorry if I am being dumb!
>
> Pete
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 5:32 PM, john whelan  wrote:
>
>> I think we have to accept that maperthon mappers will not map an exact
>> number of tiles.
>>
>> Whether that is half a tile, two and quarter tiles it doesn’t matter.  We
>> still need to catch the errors they make and if they are spread out over a
>> project on tiles that are not marked done they are difficult to find.
>>
>> One very simple improvement is to ask them to map a block, say at the top
>> left hand corner.  This makes it much easier for someone with JOSM to slurp
>> the area in, grab a tile then pull in the surrounding area and run JOSM
>> validation on the area.
>>
>> This picks up the crossing ways, the highways that almost meet, the
>> area=yes that have been left without further tags, highways=road and the
>> untagged ways.  It’s not perfect validation but it hits some of the major
>> errors that keep the mapping from being useful.
>>
>> Ideally after 30 minutes ask people to upload or save, then grab with
>> JOSM.  You’ll need the mappers to write on a bit of paper what their OSM
>> name is to provide feedback but immediate feedback can be helpful to the
>> mapper and for data quality reasons.
>>
>> Even if you don’t have JOSM or know how to use it, it helps a validator
>> or even what I call a heavy mapper who doesn’t think of themselves as a
>> validator but often will come in and complete a partially mapped tile
>> making some corrections as they go.  Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks John
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