Re: [HOT] A project that needs validators and very experienced mappers

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

Hi,

Thank you both for letting me know. We got this error fixed about 30
mins later. Turns out some markdown text in the per task instructions
caused the issue.

Regards
Blake

Blake Girardot
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team, TM3 Project Manager
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On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 2:06 AM, majka  wrote:
> The same. Got the JSON through api, tried to get gpx but probably wrong url.
> Task manager throws error.
>
> Going now with brute force - downloaded the area, validating and checking
> errors. Starting from west, will upload almost constantly.
>
> On 27 November 2016 at 07:38, Enock Seth Nyamador 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Blake.
>>
>> Trying to work with this task and run into [1].
>>
>> 1.
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B99n1pG7IHtJUDdYR25NemRrTmM/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> - Enock
>>
>> 2016-11-27 4:58 GMT+00:00 Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
>> :
>>>
>>> After thinking this over a bit more, I changed the instructions.
>>>
>>> This should only be to run existing data through josm validation and
>>> then fix the road related errors and warnings that are ease.
>>>
>>> It looks like Mapbox has most of the imagery things were mapped from
>>> so far so be sure to consult mapbox.
>>>
>>> So far it goes fast in the more rural areas, map in a few bridges, a
>>> few fords, fix some overlapping roadway and done.
>>>
>>> Just the jsom validation would have a noticeable impact on the road
>>> network with the benefit of being pretty quick and easy for validators
>>> and very experienced road mappers.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Blake
>>> 
>>> Blake Girardot
>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team, TM3 Project Manager
>>> skype: jblakegirardot
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Clifford Snow 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I passed the request along to a local Costa Rica Mapper. Sure be nice
>>> > if we
>>> > could get some cloud free imagery. I've drive some of the area in the
>>> > task
>>> > area, but not that familiar.
>>> >
>>> > Clifford
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Blake Girardot 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I created a project that is all about validation.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2352
>>> >>
>>> >> It is for the road network of the most affected areas from Tropical
>>> >> Storm
>>> >> Otto.
>>> >>
>>> >> The local osm community has asked us to help in some way to improve
>>> >> their map data as soon as possible. They are GIS skilled folks who
>>> >> know how to use osm data in real life.
>>> >>
>>> >> We need validators to basically do road network validation + some
>>> >> major road (tertiary and above) filling in.
>>> >>
>>> >> Disaster response folks are using another source for their geographic
>>> >> data in that area. But as I said, there is an experienced, skilled osm
>>> >> community in Costa Rica that are working to get OSM data wider
>>> >> exposure so said it is worth it to them to still do a project like
>>> >> this to improve the OSM data in the most affected region..
>>> >>
>>> >> This sort of project is also one that goes well with routing
>>> >> applications, fixing the low hanging fruit or really easy road fixes
>>> >> has a great impact on the usability of OSM routing in disaster areas.
>>> >> We have talked about seeing how we might make projects like this more
>>> >> standard pre-disaster phase for weather related disasters.
>>> >>
>>> >> It also gives validators a great over view of an area that might be
>>> >> coming up more as other building-only type projects so can identify
>>> >> issues the project creator missed early, if any.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please, if you are a validtor, let us see what we can do with this
>>> >> project and your feedback is encouraged.
>>> >>
>>> >> So lets see what validators, experienced josm users and the road
>>> >> mapping enthusiasts can do here!
>>> >>
>>> >> Validators: I know this takes away from validating new users mapping,
>>> >> which is a critical part of your work, but if you could find a few
>>> >> minutes to just validate the road data in one task square (they are
>>> >> big) I think it would really help Costa Rica OSM and OSM in general.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2352
>>> >>
>>> >> Validators can get support for this project in HOT IRC or the HOT
>>> >> Slack linked below.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Blake
>>> >> --
>>> >> 
>>> >> Blake Girardot
>>> >> OSM Wiki - 

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   1. Re: Dealing with future growth: three recommendations to
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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 13:45:00 +
From: Martin Dittus 
To: Blake Girardot HOT/OSM 
Cc: HOT List 
Subject: Re: [HOT] Dealing with future growth: three recommendations
to  organisers (my SotM16 talk)
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> On 24 Nov 2016, at 20:22, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM  
> wrote:
>
>> In brief, I’d like to make three key recommendations:
>> • Carefully manage the tasking manager task listing during large disaster 
>> events. People who join during these events don't tend to stay active for 
>> long, and their contributions tend to have a lower quality. Point them 
>> towards newcomer-friendly projects where they can make some early 
>> experiences.
>
> In the context of disaster response, an activation, how long should
> the early experience be? Is it ok if it is not a disaster related
> project, but a specific new mapper project, probably from missing
> maps? I would think we need a new mapped tailored part of the response
> mapping to direct new mappers too.

I don’t have a short answer for this, but my feeling is that it’s about initial 
training as much about providing a buffer for people who are just curious and 
want to click around a bit. Anything that redirects TV audiences to such an 
initial buffer is likely a win. Optimally, people who contribute well are then 
guided to further projects — for example as part of validator feedback.




>
>> • Introduce a notification mechanism to inform contributors of emergent 
>> campaigns. While the mailing list may work for the core community, there is 
>> likely a larger number of one-time mappers who may be willing to help out 
>> again when they’re needed, but currently they have no means of finding out.
>
> Yes, we have to make better use of email i think is what it comes down
> too. Really we need to engage with new mappers where they are, but the
> recurrent theme in many of these discussions is that email is best
> because OSM only or TM only contact solutions are missed by literally
> 1 day mappers. Emails seems the consensus, allow contributors to
> provide their email and opt-into some email messages from the Tasking
> Manager.

Yes, that sounds great. The existing HOT newsletter could be a low-effort means 
of starting something like this, e.g. by adding a paragraph on current 
initiatives to every email. (Tyler might likely appreciate if someone who’s 
plugged into community discourse could provide such paragraphs on short notice.)


>
>> • Try to connect newcomers to the existing community as soon as possible, 
>> and in a setting that is appropriate for absolute beginners. Where can 
>> people ask questions online? Is the mailing list still appropriate for 
>> absolute beginners?
>
> See the Live OSM mapper-support channel, that is a direct result of
> this suggestion and an attempt to accomplish the goal of connecting
> absolute beginners with the OSM community. (
> https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/ )

I love how quickly this came to be! Much impressed.


Looking forward to an exciting 2017,

m.




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