Re: [HOT] Where do I find Worldview-2?
Good Morning,
you first need to acknowledge the Worldview license agreement [1] and
then add a TMS layer [2] in JOSM.
Instructions how to add a TMS layer is available at [3].
Basically, after agreeing to the terms at [1], the Instructions-map
in the taskmanager gives you more detailled instructions.
Hope that helps,
Alex.
1. http://tasks.hotosm.org/license/1?redirect=%2Fproject%2F591
2.
tms[22]:http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/juba-20feb2014-flipped/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
3. https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/Imagery
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbek...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
For the mapping projects reference is made to Worldview-2. How do I get
access to the Worldview Imagery for mapping?
Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards,
Jan van Bekkum
www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl
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Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping
Well, the documentation says that we have landuse=construction [1] and there's also an abandoned key [2]; however, I don't know what to do if one isn't sure if it's still under construction or already abandoned. I, for myself, didn't draw an outline for these buildings for the same reason as you already stated; they are probably not inhabited, but you can never be sure. Maybe outline it anyway and add a note to it, that the mapper isn't sure? Cheers, Alex. 1. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dconstruction 2. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, New user supersonic3974 asked this question in irc last night but didn't get a reply: [22:45] supersonic3974 Hey, quick question. What are these things that look like buildings under construction? They seem to be everywhere. Here's an example: http://imgur.com/ccS03xv I have that same question coincidentally enough. They look like buildings with no roof. Are they buildings under construction or structures that lost their roof? My guess is we wouldn't outline them since they probably are not inhabited, but I don't know for sure. I'll make sure he gets an answer if someone replies here. Cheers, Blake ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Satellite imagery interpretation examples - looking for suggestions
Good Morning, On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I am open to any suggestions for things to include and if you find any good examples with MapBox imagery please send them my way. Or if you find something that you don't know what it is, please share it here and we'll get it identified. Now that sounds like an excellent idea; however, wouldn't it be of more value if we'd also collect good examples in a Wiki and preferably include pictures from the ground, if available? (Must not necessarily be the same physical object, just a look a like). Cheers, Alex. -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Satellite imagery interpretation examples - looking for suggestions
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote: I plan on putting them in osm wiki. I like the idea of the picture of what it is from ground level. Very well; are there any legal restrictions when including imagery from Mapbox? Or can we just deep-link it (e.g. using openlayers)? Cheers, Blake Alex. -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Satellite imagery interpretation examples - looking for suggestions
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/10/2014 12:31 AM, Alexander W. Janssen wrote: Very well; are there any legal restrictions when including imagery from Mapbox? Or can we just deep-link it (e.g. using openlayers)? There are legal restrictions on their imagery, but they have given us permission to use any of their imagery for instructional/educational use on the OSM wiki, with proper credit. That sounds great. Then let's just do it :-) Alex -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager V2 launch
Hi Pierre, looks good, thanks! One question though, what happened to the My tasks button in the list of projects? I know what I worked on, but that option was very convenient. Cheers, Alexander. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, tasking manager users, mappers and project managers, We're happy to announce that the Tasking Manager has been updated. A few minutes ago, a new version of the Tasking Manager took place at http://tasks.hotosm.org If you get an error while loading for the first time, please go to http://tasks.hotosm.org/logout (or manually remove the cookies). Please report any issue preferably using github [1]. A more detailed message explaining what's new will follow. ** Important note for project managers (people who were admins on previous version): Please contact me off list. The projects description and instruction sometimes need to be modified a bit. I'll be happy to give you a hand. Kind regards, Pierre [1] http://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote: The migration is currently in progress. Tasking Manager is down. It will be back soon with a brand new interface. Kind regards, Pierre On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, The tech team at Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team is proud to announce that we will launch a new version of the Tasking Manager soon. During the migration from the current version to the new one, the Tasking Manager will not be available. The downtime is supposed to last only few minutes. The migration is scheduled on Thursday 17th of July at 08:00 UTC. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140717T08p1=1440 Sorry for the inconvenience. We'll send a message for the official launch once ready. Thanks, Pierre -- - | Pierre GIRAUD - -- - | Pierre GIRAUD - -- - | Pierre GIRAUD - ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] #hotosm-task-568 complete
Good evening, I just finished the last tile of Ebola Outbreak, Sierra Leone, Kailahun district. There's still a lot verification work to do, as well as reclassifying roads. Now that the basemap is there we can take care of promoting roads to tertiary or higher if necessary. Cheers, Alexander. -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] #hotosm-task-568 complete
Good evening Pierre, I can start with that tomorrow afternoon after my dayjob. However, I can't tell tell long that'll take and it'd be good if someone could look over my work as soon as I've done some substantially. There's still one question puzzleing me though; at which level should roads inside residential areas be split and become highway=residential? Paths remain paths, tracks aren't mentioned in the guide. I assume unclassified roads become residential, but what about tertiary? Primary and secondary certainly not. Thanks, Alex. On Jul 17, 2014 7:40 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Alexander, if you want to take care of the road re-classification, please do. Others are welcome to validate tasks. Pierre -- *De :* Alexander W. Janssen alexander.jans...@gmail.com *À :* hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 17 juillet 2014 14h17 *Objet :* [HOT] #hotosm-task-568 complete Good evening, I just finished the last tile of Ebola Outbreak, Sierra Leone, Kailahun district. There's still a lot verification work to do, as well as reclassifying roads. Now that the basemap is there we can take care of promoting roads to tertiary or higher if necessary. Cheers, Alexander. -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Ebola Outbreak Activation
Good point, in job 568 the eastern half of the most eastern tiles have no imagery; I'd suggest to split these tiles and finish the western part. Alex. On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Ralf Stephan gtrw...@gmail.com wrote: The question appears that, if remaining tiles of a job have next to no imagery, should they remain unlocked? The Zinni job (582) would be completed with that. In other tasks such tiles were marked as Done. Could you please give directions for this? Regards, ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Highway Tag Africa again
Hi, I suggest that if we're not sure if a road is unclassified or already tertiary, we name it unclassified and promote it to tertiary as soon as all the surrounding areas are complete; if you're working on a single area you can't really tell if this road leads only to other villages - ending up nowhere, eventually - or if it's part of a bigger network. As soon as all the areas are mapped someone can have a look at the big picture and reclassify if necessary. That would also take away a lot of pressure from the reviewers during the first verification process and if I listened correctly there will be another round - when new imagery is available - anyway. What do you think? Yalla. -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Introduction
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alexander, On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Alexander W. Janssen alexander.jans...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Hi Dan! 1) Yes, sometimes it's frustratingly difficult with low-res imagery to know what you can contribute. I would say DEFINITELY carry on mapping those big waterways you mention. In my experience, when we're trying to map an unmapped area, having those landmarks in OSM's database (waterways, major roads, residential areas) really helps future mappers to have points of reference, even if they are approximate and need refining later. OK, will continue with that. 2) Re farmlands and forests: I sometimes draw these in, but not often. I agree with you that it seems helpful to give a rough picture of the landscape to expect, BUT on the other hand, I think having these polygons all over can sometimes make the more important jobs harder: jobs such as checking that every single building has been captured. And since these landuse polygons are pretty much never requested in the tasks (apart from landuse=residential which is often a crucial first step), it seems the locals and the aid organisations don't particularly need them. So I would suggest don't spend much time on those. Ah, allright. Well, I prioritize anyway; if I'm in the mood I'll just draw it anyway :-) I would say it depends on the situation. Eg in Khartoum (http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/15.7493/32.5389) I found interesting to add the residential areas as well as the brownfields and farmlands around or inside. Brown-fields and farmlands rather than something left blank also say we did not miss a residential area. Good point. The green- and brownfield topic is interesting. I'm just comited to Sierra Leone tasks and I see a lot of areas which seem to be recently fire cleared. Is there a tag for that or should we assume that this is now greenfield as it will be either residential or farmland later? Alex. -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Tagged changesets accidently wrong
In changeset 24017652 I used Sierra Leone, #hotosm-ebola-sl-574 instead of #hotosm-ebola-sl-568. Sorry for that... Alex. -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] HOT Activation WG Meeting today
Is there anything I could learn as someone who knows OSM but just recently started contributing to HOT or is this just an administrative meeting? If yes, it's #hot on which IRC-network/server? Alex. (yalla) On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, A short reminder that the next Activation WG meeting is scheduled on #hot IRC at 16:00 UTC today (7/8/2014). Summary and minutes of the last AWG can be found here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Working_groups/Activation/meeting_2014-06-10 Since, Trello has been tested and run for at least the CAR Activation. Documents still need to be written (I am drafting the TORs; as it requires time to review, it will be for discussion rather than for approval during the meeting). Looking forward for the second meeting to happen. Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Feedback Highway Tag Africa wikipage
Good Morning, after some discussion on IRC and feedback about my mapping at #568 (thanks, Tallguy), here some points regarding the Highway Tag Africa [1] wikipage. I did _not_ put this in the Talk-tab of the wikipage because I suspect that most of the people looking there are looking for insight and not more questions... ;-) Highway=unclassified vs. tertiary: The difference if a highway is unclassified or tertiary is defined in terms of smaller villages and hamlets and villages. This might be a cultural thing and sizes might be different everywhere (here in .de a village can be of any size if it hasn't be granted city rights). Michael suggested any dwelling smaller then ~20 houses is considered small and hence a small village or hamlet. I will now take this approach and tag everything accordingly. I know I didn't in the last 15 tiles (or so) I worked on. Roads go around houses, not through them: Yeah, I was being lazy because I thought well you do *know* that cars _have_ to come around *somehow*, but since it isn't clear, don't guess and just draw a line. OK, I stopped being lazy and am drawing around now. Educated guessing can't be too wrong I guess...? Residential roads and major streets: The Wiki says Used for roads in the residential areas except the major streets that interconnect with various roads. - ok, but now the question arises, what's considered major? Everything starting with tertiary? Or secondary? I may not split a primary highway, that's for sure, and unclassified shall be split... I split all roads between path and (including) tertiary. Secondary is the first level I don't split. Up for discussion... Cheers, Yalla. 1. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Introduction
Hi, I'm new to this list and I wanted to give a shout and say Hello. I'm using OSM now for... uh, frankly, I don't remember, but I only started mapping a few years ago. I mostly do it in my vacations and create GPS-tracks during my hikes. Ever since I can't walk very good any more, I started to improve maps in my area - mostly in the suburbs where streets are correctly mapped, but houses and their addresses are missing. I just stumbled upon HOT; I immediately liked the idea and started working on some Ebola Outbreak tasks. That's also why I'm writing this email, I have a few questions. 1) Imagery isn't that good - at least not for most the tasks I was randomly assigned too - and I'm having a hard time finding the proper... quality expectation. When imagery is bad I try at least drawing big waterways (as areas/multipolygons) using Landsat or MapBox. I don't quite think that the actual result is that good. What is best practice here - do it anyway so that at least basic information is available or just leave it alone? 2) When I get assigned to a task which looks pretty complete when it comes to villages, houses, streets and the such, I draw farmlands and forests. From my point of view - when I go to remote areas - I like it when the map gives me a basic idea about how the landscape looks like. However, the validation process takes longer. Should I continue drawing these areas or just skip it? 3) Especially regarding the tasks Ebola Outbreak, Sierra Leone, Kailahun district: It says I should comment the changeset with source=DigitalGlobe/Mapbox - however, that imagery is either non existent or not that good - Landsat (and Spot, where available) give much better results. In JSOM I generally just say fetch sources from active layers. I guess I'm doing it right...? Thanks! Alex. (user yalla) -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Introduction
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Hi Dan! 1) Yes, sometimes it's frustratingly difficult with low-res imagery to know what you can contribute. I would say DEFINITELY carry on mapping those big waterways you mention. In my experience, when we're trying to map an unmapped area, having those landmarks in OSM's database (waterways, major roads, residential areas) really helps future mappers to have points of reference, even if they are approximate and need refining later. OK, will continue with that. 2) Re farmlands and forests: I sometimes draw these in, but not often. I agree with you that it seems helpful to give a rough picture of the landscape to expect, BUT on the other hand, I think having these polygons all over can sometimes make the more important jobs harder: jobs such as checking that every single building has been captured. And since these landuse polygons are pretty much never requested in the tasks (apart from landuse=residential which is often a crucial first step), it seems the locals and the aid organisations don't particularly need them. So I would suggest don't spend much time on those. Ah, allright. Well, I prioritize anyway; if I'm in the mood I'll just draw it anyway :-) If you see tasks which seem fairly complete, it might be a better use of your time to get yourself to a point where you feel confident enough to *validate* other people's completed squares. It takes a little while to feel confident about being a validator but we always need more validation effort than we get. Good point; however, when it comes to the validating part, I know how hard that is in my area - especially when it comes to correct road relations and the such. There are still many grey areas, as soon as we run out of unaddressed areas, I'll look other the validation part. So that more skilled people can concentrate on that first. Also, Is there a feedback process in case I'm doing something wrong? I guess if I make a mistake, I'll do the same over and over again. Got the wiki in another tab open for reference at all times, but well, you know how it is. 3) Firstly, you should indeed tag the changeset with the actual imagery you used. I thought so. But secondly, if you're not careful about which imagery you use, there's a risk that you might end up tracing from imagery that is a couple of years old or something like that. Luckily Bing shows a date in JOSM and all of it shows 2014 up until now. My personal approach would be to try and use the recommended imagery, since someone has usually put effort in to working out which imagery is most appropriate. Also, there's usually a conversation on the mailing list which always gives some clues about what to use. I paid attention to this, however other people seem to have the same problem - MapBox/Digital Globe is not exactly high-res. In one occasion I could use Spot data, but that seems to be rare. I wonder if it'd be useful to use Sentinel 1-A data? It's free to use and available at ESA's Sentinel Data Hub. However, the 1-A satellite was just recently comissioned and the webinterface is a nightmare. Also, the data products aren't really curated yet, only level-1 products are really useful now and we're speaking about TIFF-blobs hundreds of Megabytes large. I think these would've to be split to tiles and zoom-levels first before they're really useful to JOSM. Information about ESA's Sentinel project: https://sentinel.esa.int/web/sentinel/home Sentinel Data hub: https://senthub.esa.int/ Regristration and usage is free. Dan Alex. -- The best thing about procrastinating is you can do it NOW and ANYTIME. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
