Re: [HOT] EFF Privacybadger blocks OSM on uakemap.org

2015-05-24 Thread Andreas Goss

Well, I assumed it had automatic updates.

But I'm also using Firefox, does anybody know if those are updated at 
the same time?


Last update for me is 2. April so woudld make sense that I don't have 
the fix, just seems bad when I have to do that manually.


On 5/24/15 21:07 , Dan S wrote:

Hi,

Did you install Privacy Badger recently, or a long time ago? I think I
already fixed this issue:
https://github.com/EFForg/privacybadgerchrome/pull/177

Dan

2015-05-24 19:53 GMT+01:00 Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de:

Not sure if anybody has noticed this so far or if there is a way to fix this
or at least show people some error message as background image.

http://quakemap.org/
https://www.eff.org/privacybadger

Already had this issue with Nominatim, not sure if this is exactly the same
case.
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=29593

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[HOT] EFF Privacybadger blocks OSM on uakemap.org

2015-05-24 Thread Andreas Goss
Not sure if anybody has noticed this so far or if there is a way to fix 
this or at least show people some error message as background image.


http://quakemap.org/
https://www.eff.org/privacybadger

Already had this issue with Nominatim, not sure if this is exactly the 
same case.

http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=29593

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Re: [HOT] Database, OSM HOT (Was: Request for information about common set of tags for HOT)

2015-05-23 Thread Andreas Goss

Oops, now I see that they are not even in Nepal.  Does each project have
its own set of terminology?  Are we certain that some emergency landing
sites were not given different tags by different mappers as this
flexibility seems to be viewed as beneficial.


The idea is certainly not for very project to have its own tags and we 
try to avoid it whenever possible, even try to merge tags when we see 
there are similar meanings (which isn't easy, because mass edits aren't 
allowed unless you basically get 100% support)
What usually happens is that there is local demand to tag something and 
then people come up with a tag. Unfortunately people often forget to 
document it as you already figured out, if there had been a wiki page 
for landing_site and it had been linked on aeroway=helipad someone from 
HOT might have found that tag.



To me this just demonstrates the chaotic nature of the tagging scheme,
little consistency or documentation.  However, if it appears to work
then it works.


It's certainly a issue and HOT is certainly not the project doing the 
best job when it comes to documentation (Well, it's often documented 
somewhere, but not easy to find). Most mappers usually care about their 
area, which means HOT can often get away with strange tags or tags that 
have not been discussed, because they don't pop up in the neighbourhood 
of mappers in Europe.
I mean of you started tagging amenity=kitchen in Germany you would have 
a 10 page discussion of what kind of kitchen that is, who has access etc.



Cheers,
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Re: [HOT] Database, OSM HOT (Was: Request for information about common set of tags for HOT)

2015-05-22 Thread Andreas Goss

I see that the open, flexible nature of the tag approach has its merits
I suppose.  The enduring mystery for me is how is this information used
in a query?  But maybe I am barking up the wrong tree here, perhaps this
concept is only used for labeling features, and querying to select the
data subset is not a common task.


You mean like this?
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9wZ

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Re: [HOT] Database, OSM HOT (Was: Request for information about common set of tags for HOT)

2015-05-21 Thread Andreas Goss
I have to admit I never saw either one, but honestly I'm also not sure 
what I would have replyed.


The older one is kinda like what tagging do I prefer, but at the same 
time not making clear what HOT and people using the data need, 
especially when it comes to routing. I mean if it already starts with 
they may do that and they may do that...


And I think the reason there was little feedback for the recent mail is 
probably because it looked fine to most people. The majority of mappers 
there are not really involved in crisis mapping and if they are will 
just do the tasks. Not to mention that it's a giant wall of text which 
never helps. And you are also kinda left alone with the links. I think 
it really lacked a comparison between what has been used and was not 
good and why this new tagging is better.



When it comes to Tagging you always have to explain what has been used 
in the past, what you propose, what are obvious alternatives, what 
should no longer be used, why you propose it, how it will be used etc.



What I still don't see are Wiki pages for the Keys/Tags. Just create 
them when they already are in the database. And create the proposal. And 
I also think there are a lot of Tags outside of this life cycle which 
are far easier to document.




  And to be honest I can't remember ever having seen any HOT topics on the
  tagging mailinglist (apart from the 1 I posted), where you could discuss
  Tags used for both conventinal as well as crisis mapping and discuss
where
  do use established tags and where to use new ones.

Similar threads?

Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Damage-Assessment-Tags-Would-like-feedback-on-a-schema-tp5842202.html

Impassable, damaged and related life cycle concepts
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Impassable-damaged-and-related-life-cycle-concepts-td5791364.html


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Re: [HOT] Request for information about common set of tags for HOT (Was: OSM Nepal Reponse - Links to various infos)

2015-05-20 Thread Andreas Goss

Any others tag or key candidates?


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:HOT_Tags

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Re: [HOT] Request for information about common set of tags for HOT (Was: OSM Nepal Reponse - Links to various infos)

2015-05-20 Thread Andreas Goss

there seems to be little information related to the emergency relief
effort.  In over 366,000 records there are only 19 marked as aeroway =
helipad.


I already brought this up on the tagging mailinglist. The problem is 
that someone had the great idea to tag those as leisure=common, which is 
honestly one of the worst defined and most abigious OSM Tags in geneal 
(in my opinion this is a UK only tag due to legal implications), just 
check out the Wiki.
And what makes it really bad is that you can correctly tag places as 
leisure=common where no helicopter can land.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon

Now aeroway=helipad probablay wasn't used, because it's really meant for 
places designed and designated for a helicopter to land not just where 
it could land. Even though the decription isn't that clear, I think it 
was the correct move not to use it.


The question is why not have a new tag?
And then it actually turned out that in Poland they are already using a 
Tag that could have been used by HOT:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dlanding_site

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[HOT] Wiki: HOT UserBox

2015-05-01 Thread Andreas Goss

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:HOT_UserBox

I just realized that if you use this template on your user page, then it 
will be in the Humanitarian OSM Team category. I don't think that should 
happen and I guess with the [[Category:{{{1}}} 
Volunteers{{!}}{{PAGENAME}}]] that also was somehow the intention, but 
that doesn't work, because many people don't enter the optional parameter.


I'm not an expert with those templates, but maybe someone could edit it 
so by default it says Category: HOT volunteer and make that a sub category.
Also for the official members it might also be better to have category 
HOT board members as Humanitarian OSM Team doesn't really stand for the 
team.


Because right now the category isn't the usefull with all the users:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Humanitarian_OSM_Team

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Re: [HOT] Update hotosm's frontpage to feature the current Nepal earthquake response.

2015-04-27 Thread Andreas Goss

On 4/27/15 06:43 , Heather Leson wrote:

If any changes are required, please do let me know.


Could you maybe use the larger version of the image from the Wiki and 
not a Screenshot to get a better image quality.


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/e/e6/2015_Nepal_Earthquake_USGS_map.png


Also the article linked has a dead link to some Project page. And I 
don't get the point of the 2nd image  (Africa?) on that page.


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