Re: [HOT] [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

[Greg Morgan]

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:24 AM Jean-Marc Liotier  wrote:

> On Mon, October 1, 2018 9:56 am, Nate Smith wrote:
>
>

> If one needs number to report back to donors, then integrate this sort of
> thing with the task manager - and explain to donors how erroneous data is
> sharply negative value, that an error corrected is even better value than
> a new datum and that for their money to have actually usable impact it
> needs some share to be allocated to quality control.
>

This is nothing more than an uneducated attack on my favorite part of the
US tax code, 501.c3. This is also nothing more than an attack on a group
trying to build the OSM community.  All OSM mappers have to go through a
the process of being new and growing to be a better mapper.  You sound like
you expect a baby out of the womb to take that perfect first step without
falling down.  Yet walking comes some many months later after a body of
knowledge is gained by the infant.  In my impression of HOT, they are
taking people passionate about the human condition and helping that person
find an outlet for that passion.  That first step might not be the best.
The first step for any mapper may not be the best.  There is no need to
attack HOT based on what a new mapper goes through.  Even pub style meetups
have to assist mappers through the ropes of OSM education.

This time of year I start planning my final tax bill.  I read the reports
that you talk about to decide where I will spend my tax deductions and tax
credits.   I am more worried about overhead for each dollar spent and the
minutia that you address and think would make a difference.  You see as a
you teenager we would go around the day before Halloween with a container
asking for pennies for UNICEF.   Back then that was the only game in town
for charitable work that I knew of.  Later I found that only one penny of
each dollar that I raised actually when to meet someone's need.  I am
guessing that 99 cents went to an administrator's pay check.  There was no
clear accounting.  I found a similar issue with United Way.  I pick 501.c3
charities based on administrative overhead and how they are trying to break
cycles of the working poor's poverty or some other cause. That's right we
do not use a Value Added Tax, VAT.  After my Adjusted Gross Income, AGI,
has been determined, my government allows me to reduce my tax burden by
deductions and credits.  I have local charities that fill my poverty cycle
breakers check box.  I also look at each agency's overhead.  HOT falls in
the same 5% to 15% overhead range that I prefer.  As I recall, HOT's admin
overhead was 13% for last year.  I am guessing that is because of their
expensive Washington D.C. address.

Now you need to understand the priority of giving.  The best dollar spent
is one where I receive a credit for each tax dollar owed.  A credit reduces
my final tax dollar for dollar.  These are mostly state tax credits.  Then
I move on to deductions.  Deductions only reduce my tax partially at so
many cents on the dollar.  Those deductions are still worthy causes.   They
are still better causes than letting my federal government blow money on
some misguided effort.  Included on my short list each year are HOT and the
US chapter of OSM.  However, by the time I get to this part of my list, I
am out of budget for the year.  The OSMF is at the very bottom of my list.
Money spent there would not be of benefit to my taxes i.e. no 501.c3
designation.  Now you can yammer on and on about how the OSM foundation
should spend those OSM related dollars but that control does not function
in the way my tax system works.

See now that you have a small understanding of how my tax system works
verses your VAT, then you can see how I view your remarks as nothing more
than a condescending perfectionist attack that expects every mapper to be
perfect and full of all the knowledge required to make their first change
set contribution.  This does nothing more than to destroy the community.
We have plenty of QA tools.  What is lacking is a community willing to
gently grow new mappers to long term mappers.

Regards,
Greg
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Re: [HOT] Retention of mappers analysis

[Greg Morgan]

You might want to contact Pascal Neis. I think that he has a system to
extract data with hash tags in the change set comments.
http://neis-one.org/about/

Regards,
Greg

On Mon, May 21, 2018, 1:58 AM Janet Chapman 
wrote:

> Does anyone have a script to analyse information about people mapping
> using a particular hashtag please?
>
>
>
> We would like to analyse how long our volunteers mapping with
> #TanzaniaDevelopmentTrust have been mapping for and how many edits they
> have done?
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> *Janet Chapman *
>
> *Campaigns Manager, Tanzania Development Trust **and Founder Crowd2Map *
>
> Address: *44* *Mildenhall Road LONDON E5 0RU, UK*
>
> Mobile/SMS/WhatsApp: *0447815 053 779*
>
> Skype :* jachapman82*
>
> LinkedIn *uk.linkedin.com/in/janetchapman
> *
>
> Blog: *http://hiaragirlpower.blogspot.co.uk/
> and  www.crowd2map.org
>  *
>
>
>
> The Tanzania Development Trust is UK Registered Charity No 270462
>
> *www.tanzdevtrust.org *
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