Re: [HOT] SDS Preparation/Project-Setup

2014-06-14 Thread frmoine
Thanks for this link two questions:

- if somebody delete a hospital in OSM for exemple; I will lose the link
inside the SDS database if the OSM ID doesn't exist anymore.
So I will need to use the revert to get back the OSM ID ?

- Who is the admin of the SDS, our data will be safe on this server  and
If one NGO want to use his own postgres database we should ask geofabrik
first to use this plugin (Ruby on Rail).

All the best FredM

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Re: [HOT] Pleiades image of Foya available, job being set up

2014-04-04 Thread frmoine
+ 1000 : )  thanks

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Re: [HOT] Interim Report: Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Damage Assessment

2014-03-21 Thread frmoine
Hello,

Answer a little late;

During this HOT activation, I have done some damage assessment,
digitization and image search with the HOT coordination team.

For damage assessment, the OSM community was not prepared for this
and we had a lot of work digitizing over a wide area .
Provide the basic data and cover the maximum area was the priority.

So the report that I read is interesting and it makes a first return,
but again it is preferable to properly prepare such exercises;

However, I participated in discussions, based on experience in
assessment with unosat and field work for three years in haiti.

See the link below for a report made after a damage assesment done with
Unosat + WB + JRC in haiti.

Building damage assessment report in haiti

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B23KlWXOmZhJREpqUUlTbUt0a28/edit?usp=sharing

Regards FredM


Hope to discuss within a specific working group about it,
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Re: [HOT] Interesting read regarding UAS/UAV

2014-03-15 Thread frmoine
Don't hesitate to populate this wiki,

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UAV


and we are working in Haiti since 2011 with UAV and some OSM contributor
can fly alone now.

It was planned to train more people during CAP103/HOT project in haiti,
but we failled to do it. It took time but finally we achieved the goal
to have some OSM contributor able to fly.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UAV-HAITI

we are going to put more link and information about the mission in haiti
and translate it in english,

And of course all UAV imagery are avaible by default in JOSM when you
zoom over Haiti.

Good mapping

All the best FredM

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Re: [HOT] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing

2014-01-02 Thread frmoine

Hello, happy new year 2014


Regarding post disaster assessment and this job 
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/392


I have participated to HOT activation right after the event in 
Philippines and we discussed the post disaster and tagging at that time


For me we still need to replace Undamaged buildings by No visible damage 
will be more realistic after a typhoon.


and let building= yes seems ok.


. *typhoon:reviewed=yes*(revision made)
or , *typhoon:reviewed=cloud*(cloud coverage)
. *building=yes*

2 months after I see this job 392 and I have two more questions:


1 - When should we make a post disaster analysis with satellite imagery?

At the beginning of a disaster for sure as we need to know the extent of 
damage and the intensity to set up priority area.


However it is preferable to leave the OSM contributors finish digitizing 
over the most affected areas and let the time for quality control to 
avoid leaving bad digitize objects in OSM database.



And let other more specialized team to do the damage assesment based on 
OSM data (pre image).


As we need good pre and post image to do a damage assessment

And if HOT wants to do some damage assessment so it will go to do it in 
order :



-Completely finish digitizing baseline data to get the most complete 
dataset over the affected areas.


-Then coordinate with agencies performing the damage assessment to 
dispacth areas to fill any gap.


-Creating a Wiki with screenshots and a detailed explanation of the way 
to make this assessment and the use of the tags. (toharmonize digitization)


- You can make a general wiki and adapt according to each situation.

See :

http://hot.openstreetmap.org/about/hot_capacities / Developing Skilled 
Mappers and Community Approach


2 -- Do we need to put all the data on OSM

After such kind of disaster the most important thing for the population 
could be to get back to there original land and keep their property.


So pre building could be useful for that, after to map every tent or idp 
camp is something else especially if we are not maintaining this data in 
the field, the same for damage assessment after 2 months I assume people 
made some assessment in the field.


So we can use this capacity :

http://hot.openstreetmap.org/about/hot_capacities / Building a Local OSM 
Environment



To improve the use of OSM with other data base,  as we cannot put all 
the information if we are not update it in OSM. ( we still need to clean 
OSM data in Haiti).

But it is possilbe to increase the use of OSM data for the reconstruction.

And reinforce the use of private data store (?)

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2012-March/024677.html


it was just two quick questions : )


all the best and good work in the field, all the best FredM




Hi All,

I proposed the switch to a damage= tag to this community about a month ago and received 
a positive response, albeit from few voices. When I brought this up again at SOTM-PH it was also 
well received. As such I think we should switch to using the damage= tagging schema and 
move away from tagging damages in the building tag.

The rendering on this may lag at the moment but is easy enough to catch up - 
Yohan has already signaled that he can switch quickly.

Cheers,
Robert

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From: Severin MENARD severin.menard at gmail.com  
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Subject: [HOT] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing

Hi,

Wanting to contribute to the post-disaster assessments in Philippines, I read 
the discussion about tags and rendering. As Pierre's tip about the mapcss was 
useful for everyone, I added it in the workflow tab in the job I wanted to 
contribute (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/360). Would be good to have a defintive 
statement regarding Jonathan's questions and put it in the workflow as well, so 
that there is no doubt about the tagging.

Sincerely,

Severin

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Re: [HOT] [talk-ph] Panay Mapping

2013-12-13 Thread Frmoine
All the image are now restricted,

We will need also to check about the license now.

All the best FredM

Le 13/12/2013 16:21, Pierre Béland a écrit :
 Mark
 
 I've been told that site went down yesterday and that files will be migrated 
 to an other site. Jean-Guilhem as copied many of the files. I am asking him 
 to look if he has imagery for this area.
 
 
  
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 Envoyé le : Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 10h15
 Objet : Re: [HOT] Panay Mapping
  
 
 
 Hi Pierre
 
 I was trying to down load the imagery from https://hdds.usgs.gov/hdds2/ here 
 was some imagery (look at the pics i posted at http://markware.net/pray at 
 the bottom of the page) thats all I could get downloaded. I believe there was 
 more, but my internet is throttled now because of overuse.
 
 Maybe you could get it downloaded and it may be of use.
 
 Cheers
 
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 West of Limbag (node 2527733423), Bing High Res imagery. It should be 
 covered better. East of Limbag, I will have to work with Landsat8 which is 
 relatively covered with clouds.



 Unless somebody knows other imagery for this area.


  
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 Hi Mark,

 I will go through this area in JOSM and assure that all road are traced.



  
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 This task would be very close to the actual area required! (My first look 
 at the Tasking Manager)


 http://tasks2.hotosm.org/job/1002#task/860/544/10



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 On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dan, sorry, the bounding boxs would be as follows:


 Primary Area:
 TL: 121.25E 11.50N
 BR: 122.75E  11.166N


 Extending south to a Secondary Area
 TL: 121.25E 11.166N

 BR: 122.75E  11.00N


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[HOT] digitization of buildings

2013-11-12 Thread frmoine

digitization of buildings Bing pre-Image:

I have noticed on some areas that people put a big polygon borders areas 
over several buildings.


Let me remind you that building is unique ( base on roof color, shadow)  
and in most case it is either rectangular or square. So no trapeze or 
bizzare form.


The zoom scale may be less than 30 m depending on the quality of the image

Take josm building tool and also the building continues under the trees.

thank you in advance, I'm not in *thequality controlteam*, but 
if we can save their time, in this important task.


In any case it is amazing work done so far, well done, all the best and 
continue to help


FredM OSM contributor
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Re: [HOT] digitization of buildings

2013-11-12 Thread frmoine

thanks the community for all those advises,

for my side I am using

 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/BuildingsTools  and when I 
see a more complex form I am using extrude ( josm = X )

http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/Extrude


As a contributor:

 if I saw something wrong during the mapping from another contributor I 
am trying to have an open discussion in private message.


I hope somebody will do the same when I will make some mistake

All the best FredM

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Re: [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan - status of imagery requests within HOT

2013-11-10 Thread frmoine

So for the area of interest OCHA and Unosat should have it.

Most important could be the pre-image,

During an activation first you receive the pre-image and then the post 
image for the damage assessment.


But for that it should be cloud free

You can monitor it through Modis as well

http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Philippines.2013314

all the best FredM


Le 10/11/2013 10:02, Kate Chapman a écrit :

Hi All,

I'm working on imagery requests, but they work differently when the
Disaster Charter is activated. Meaning post event imagery would be
provided directly from DigitalGlobe and not from the NextView license.
There is currently no post-event imagery available through the charter
it will appear here when available:
http://www.disasterscharter.org/web/charter/activation_details?p_r_p_1415474252_assetId=ACT-466
Not all providers that respond are going to be willing to share with
HOT, it requires asking each one individually.

It would be helpful if specific areas of interest could be sent to me
because asking for all the imagery won't get much of a response.
Currently the area covered pre-event by big seems to be pretty big,
but if there are priority areas that aren't send me a KML or
shapefile.

Thanks,

-Kate

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM, nicolas chavent
nicolas.chav...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

Had a quick chat with Maning this morning who was asking on a status about
imagery request pre and post event.

Great if an update can be produced on this for US State Depatment and Int
Charter and tasks around requests being distributed or documented if already
documented

Nico



On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Fred Moine frmo...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear,

International charter has been activated

http://www.disasterscharter.org/web/charter/activation_details?p_r_p_1415474252_assetId=ACT-466

Could we start to ask Unosat (Or US dpt) some pre imagery over the most
affected area, to help for their damage assessment.

All the best FredM



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