Re: [HOT] [Imports] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?
> From: Severin MENARD [mailto:severin.men...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 3:22 AM > To: impo...@openstreetmap.org; hot@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Imports] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data? > > Paul, > > I took you only 24 hours in December to stop this import. I would > appreciate the same speed to help us solving the issue(s) you identified > for this import that has humanitarian benefits. Can you please answer to > my last email in order we fix the tags and proceed again? As I indicated in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2014-January/002512.html the step after my email is to propose what you want to do on the imports@ mailing list and to the local community, same as if you were proposing a new import. I would suggest doing this in a new email topic where you outline the changes you want to make to the import vs. what was proposed, because this one has been about the block and it's getting hard to follow. It is up to you to consult adequately and ensure that there is a consensus around continuing the import with the changes, and this is not something that I would normally get involved in *as a DWG member*. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Imports] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?
Over the last year, HOT with the support of the OSM community has made the difference in many countries, responding to humanitarians in imergency contexts. Just to name a few, we have made the difference in Democratic Republic of Congo, Mali, Syria, Central African Republic. And finally, for the Philippines Haiyan Typhoon, we were able to deliver paper maps in 10 days, including in many areas the damaged buildings. Look at the medias were the humanitarian community says how OSM has made the difference. We work in a stressful context and need support. For some of you, that dont follow closely our work, it make look that we dont respect rules. We see that in every orgnization. You have some work can you can plan for years. Other tasks were you need a lot of reactivity and flexibility. Instead of general critics saying we do not follow the rules, we would prefer that people propose us concrete solutions adapted to this context. This give me the opportunity to thank the many developpers that permitted success of Haiyan Activation. They came with concrete propositions and realized them rapidly. When you manage a crisis, you dont plan the same way as you do for long term projects. We need propositions that are adapted to this reality and support us in our action. Pierre De : Martin Koppenhoefer À : Severin MENARD Cc : "impo...@openstreetmap.org" ; "hot@openstreetmap.org" Envoyé le : Mercredi 8 janvier 2014 9h53 Objet : Re: [HOT] [Imports] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data? 2014/1/8 Severin MENARD Paul, > > >I took you only 24 hours in December to stop this import. I would appreciate >the same speed to help us solving the issue(s) you identified for this import >that has humanitarian benefits. if the import is not done nicely and the data or tagging has issues, there will also be few benefit (it might even harm to have some kind of problematic data or errors online rather than having nothing) cheers, Martin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Imports] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014/1/8 Severin MENARD > >> Paul, >> >> I took you only 24 hours in December to stop this import. I would >> appreciate the same speed to help us solving the issue(s) you identified >> for this import that has humanitarian benefits. >> > > > if the import is not done nicely and the data or tagging has issues, there > will also be few benefit (it might even harm to have some kind of > problematic data or errors online rather than having nothing) > > cheers, > Martin > I am totally aware of this. The issue is not about the import itself that has been done nicely so far except ONCE the comments have been forgotten. The issue is only about the tags, and everything has been presented and argumented, it is now only a matter of discussion and decision about 3 categories of tags (geodata, admin and source), what IMHO does not require weeks to be debated. Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Imports] CAR Activation; experienced mappers to finish the import of UNICEF data?
2014/1/8 Severin MENARD > Paul, > > I took you only 24 hours in December to stop this import. I would > appreciate the same speed to help us solving the issue(s) you identified > for this import that has humanitarian benefits. > if the import is not done nicely and the data or tagging has issues, there will also be few benefit (it might even harm to have some kind of problematic data or errors online rather than having nothing) cheers, Martin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot