[HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-02 Thread Claire Halleux
Ever heard of this?
A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious:
http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html

Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems.
Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8.
There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in
places that would actually need this kind of tool.

However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share
regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating
places?

Claire

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Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-02 Thread Mark Iliffe
Hi Claire,

Have you had a look at "what3words": http://what3words.com? It's three words 
and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes.

In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots) for 
locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a few regions over 
the next year.

Happy to chat more if you would like.

Best,

Mark

> On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux  wrote:
> 
> Ever heard of this?
> A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious:
> http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html
> 
> Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems.
> Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8.
> There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in 
> places that would actually need this kind of tool.
> 
> However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share 
> regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating 
> places?
> 
> Claire
> 
> Claire Halleux
> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> 
> http://www.hotosm.org/
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
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Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-02 Thread john whelan
what3words is nice but is commercial.  I was hoping for some sort of open
data prem code postcode idea.  UK prem code is the house number so a prem
code followed by the postcode is a unique address.  Example 10pr82az is 10
weld road southport pr8 2az.

Cheerio John

On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe  wrote:

> Hi Claire,
>
> Have you had a look at "what3words": http://what3words.com? It's three
> words and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes.
>
> In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots)
> for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a few
> regions over the next year.
>
> Happy to chat more if you would like.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>
> On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux  wrote:
>
> Ever heard of this?
> A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not
> obvious:
>
> http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html
>
> Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems.
> Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8.
> There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable
> in places that would actually need this kind of tool.
>
> However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share
> regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating
> places?
>
> Claire
>
> Claire Halleux
> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>
> http://www.hotosm.org/
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
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Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-02 Thread Mark Iliffe
Hi John, All,

what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word component 
also is quite good at error checking. 

Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have a 
cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My experience in 
rural Tanzania is that they don't have that experience. We've been integrating 
what3words so people will be able phone or text location. ID numbers on water 
points just washed away/eroded. what3words works even under partial 
degradation, then it can be error corrected unlike a postcode where every digit 
is relevant. 

Best,

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 May 2015, at 23:52, john whelan  wrote:
> 
> what3words is nice but is commercial.  I was hoping for some sort of open 
> data prem code postcode idea.  UK prem code is the house number so a prem 
> code followed by the postcode is a unique address.  Example 10pr82az is 10 
> weld road southport pr8 2az.
> 
> Cheerio John
> 
>> On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe  wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> 
>> Have you had a look at "what3words": http://what3words.com? It's three words 
>> and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes.
>> 
>> In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots) 
>> for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a few 
>> regions over the next year.
>> 
>> Happy to chat more if you would like.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ever heard of this?
>>> A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious:
>>> http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html
>>> 
>>> Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems.
>>> Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8.
>>> There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in 
>>> places that would actually need this kind of tool.
>>> 
>>> However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share 
>>> regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating 
>>> places?
>>> 
>>> Claire
>>> 
>>> Claire Halleux
>>> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>> 
>>> http://www.hotosm.org/
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Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-02 Thread Denis Carriere
Most topographic maps will be using MGRS grids for referencing a location,
it can be 1m precise to 100m depending on how much digits you grid
contains. Garmin GPS's have MGRS built in by default, it's a good idea to
use both LatLng & MGRS when referencing a location.

Example of MGRS
- 45R UL 12345 12345 (1 meter precise)
- 45R UL 123 123 (100 meter precise)

Cheers,

OSM: @DenisCarriere
Twitter: @DenisCarriere
On May 3, 2015 3:59 AM, "Mark Iliffe"  wrote:

> Hi John, All,
>
> what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word
> component also is quite good at error checking.
>
> Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have a
> cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My experience
> in rural Tanzania is that they don't have that experience. We've been
> integrating what3words so people will be able phone or text location. ID
> numbers on water points just washed away/eroded. what3words works even
> under partial degradation, then it can be error corrected unlike a postcode
> where every digit is relevant.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2 May 2015, at 23:52, john whelan  wrote:
>
> what3words is nice but is commercial.  I was hoping for some sort of open
> data prem code postcode idea.  UK prem code is the house number so a prem
> code followed by the postcode is a unique address.  Example 10pr82az is 10
> weld road southport pr8 2az.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe  wrote:
>
>> Hi Claire,
>>
>> Have you had a look at "what3words": http://what3words.com? It's three
>> words and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes.
>>
>> In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through
>> pilots) for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a
>> few regions over the next year.
>>
>> Happy to chat more if you would like.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ever heard of this?
>> A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not
>> obvious:
>>
>> http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html
>>
>> Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems.
>> Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8.
>> There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable
>> in places that would actually need this kind of tool.
>>
>> However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share
>> regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating
>> places?
>>
>> Claire
>>
>> Claire Halleux
>> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>
>> http://www.hotosm.org/
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
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Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-03 Thread Tomaso Bertoli
Hello Mark
I looked at what3words
The idea is quite good but I'm not sure why there appears to be no
"indexing" two cells addresses three meters apart differ in all the three
words and the addressing is way too sensible ... locating a tent would
return serveral addresses
It would be easier if the three words in the sequence would provide
increasing detail in the geographic location
So the addresses of the tent would differ only in the last word of the
sequence
Is the something I misunderstood or neglected in the what3words concept?
Tomaso
Il 03/Mag/2015 00:14, "Mark Iliffe"  ha scritto:

> Hi John, All,
>
> what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word
> component also is quite good at error checking.
>
> Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have a
> cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My experience
> in rural Tanzania is that they don't have that experience. We've been
> integrating what3words so people will be able phone or text location. ID
> numbers on water points just washed away/eroded. what3words works even
> under partial degradation, then it can be error corrected unlike a postcode
> where every digit is relevant.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2 May 2015, at 23:52, john whelan  wrote:
>
> what3words is nice but is commercial.  I was hoping for some sort of open
> data prem code postcode idea.  UK prem code is the house number so a prem
> code followed by the postcode is a unique address.  Example 10pr82az is 10
> weld road southport pr8 2az.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe  wrote:
>
>> Hi Claire,
>>
>> Have you had a look at "what3words": http://what3words.com? It's three
>> words and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes.
>>
>> In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through
>> pilots) for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a
>> few regions over the next year.
>>
>> Happy to chat more if you would like.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ever heard of this?
>> A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not
>> obvious:
>>
>> http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html
>>
>> Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems.
>> Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8.
>> There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable
>> in places that would actually need this kind of tool.
>>
>> However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share
>> regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating
>> places?
>>
>> Claire
>>
>> Claire Halleux
>> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>
>> http://www.hotosm.org/
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
>>
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Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-03 Thread Krishma Nayee
Hi Tomaso,

Yes that is true, there is no ‘indexing’ between neighbouring squares. The 
algorithm converts coordinates into the 3 word address which are unique but 
fixed.

Yes locating a tent would return several addresses, but it is just like 
collecting a set of coordinates for each tent. The benefit being that you can 
now communicate that location in a human friendly and rapid way. You can 
collect the 3 word location for the front of the tent or the centroid (if the 
coordinates have already been collected  you can use the batch conversion tool 
- http://developer.what3words.com/batch-conversion-tool/).

Human beings make errors. The system is optimized to recognise and autocorrect 
both sharer and receiver mistakes. The what3words autocorrect system picks up 
errors in spelling, typing, speaking, and mishearing 3 word locations.

The system has shuffled all of similar sounding 3 word locations as far away 
from each other as possible, so it can use your location to intelligently guess 
where you meant. A lot of the time when the similar sounding addresses are near 
enough to each other it can be very confusing and often results in huge delays 
whilst the user works out what has gone wrong and what the right address 
actually is. 

Krishma

> From: Tomaso Bertoli 
> Date: 3 May 2015 10:44:51 CEST
> To: Mark Iliffe 
> Cc: hot , john whelan 
> Subject: Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code
> 
> Hello Mark
> I looked at what3words
> The idea is quite good but I'm not sure why there appears to be no "indexing" 
> two cells addresses three meters apart differ in all the three words and the 
> addressing is way too sensible ... locating a tent would return serveral 
> addresses 
> It would be easier if the three words in the sequence would provide 
> increasing detail in the geographic location
> So the addresses of the tent would differ only in the last word of the 
> sequence 
> Is the something I misunderstood or neglected in the what3words concept?
> Tomaso
> 
> Il 03/Mag/2015 00:14, "Mark Iliffe"  ha scritto:
> Hi John, All,
> 
> what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word component 
> also is quite good at error checking. 
> 
> Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have a 
> cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My experience in 
> rural Tanzania is that they don't have that experience. We've been 
> integrating what3words so people will be able phone or text location. ID 
> numbers on water points just washed away/eroded. what3words works even under 
> partial degradation, then it can be error corrected unlike a postcode where 
> every digit is relevant. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2 May 2015, at 23:52, john whelan  wrote:
> 
>> what3words is nice but is commercial.  I was hoping for some sort of open 
>> data prem code postcode idea.  UK prem code is the house number so a prem 
>> code followed by the postcode is a unique address.  Example 10pr82az is 10 
>> weld road southport pr8 2az.
>> 
>> Cheerio John
>> 
>> On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe  wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> 
>> Have you had a look at "what3words": http://what3words.com? It's three words 
>> and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes.
>> 
>> In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots) 
>> for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a few 
>> regions over the next year.
>> 
>> Happy to chat more if you would like.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ever heard of this?
>>> A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious:
>>> http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html
>>> 
>>> Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems.
>>> Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8.
>>> There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in 
>>> places that would actually need this kind of tool.
>>> 
>>> However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share 
>>> regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating 
>>> places?
>>> 
>>> Claire
>>> 
>>> Claire Halleux
>>> +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>> 
>>> http://www.hotosm.org/
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Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-03 Thread Stéphane Henriod
This What3words looks like a genius idea to me!

I especially like this comitment in the FAQ:

If we, what3words ltd, are ever unable to maintain the what3words
technology or make arrangements for it to be maintained by a third-party
(with that third-party being willing to make this same commitment), then we
will release our source code into the public domain. We will do this in
such a way and with suitable licences and documentation to ensure that any
and all users of what3words, whether they are individuals, businesses,
charitable organisations, aid agencies, governments or anyone else can
continue to rely on the what3words system.

@Mark: do you have some feedback about your pilot in Tanzania? Any report
or something we can have a look at?

Cheers

Stéphane
--
"No one goes so far or so fast as the man who does not know where he is
going."
"Any worthwhile expedition can be planned on the back of an envelope."
Bill Tillman
On 3 May 2015 12:06, "Krishma Nayee"  wrote:

> Hi Tomaso,
>
> Yes that is true, there is no ‘indexing’ between neighbouring squares. The
> algorithm converts coordinates into the 3 word address which are unique but
> fixed.
>
> Yes locating a tent would return several addresses, but it is just like
> collecting a set of coordinates for each tent. The benefit being that you
> can now communicate that location in a human friendly and rapid way. You
> can collect the 3 word location for the front of the tent or the centroid
> (if the coordinates have already been collected  you can use the batch
> conversion tool - http://developer.what3words.com/batch-conversion-tool/).
>
> Human beings make errors. The system is optimized to recognise and
> autocorrect both sharer and receiver mistakes. The what3words autocorrect
> system picks up errors in spelling, typing, speaking, and mishearing 3 word
> locations.
>
> The system has shuffled all of similar sounding 3 word locations as far
> away from each other as possible, so it can use your location to
> intelligently guess where you meant. A lot of the time when the similar
> sounding addresses are near enough to each other it can be very confusing
> and often results in huge delays whilst the user works out what has gone
> wrong and what the right address actually is.
>
> Krishma
>
> > From: Tomaso Bertoli 
> > Date: 3 May 2015 10:44:51 CEST
> > To: Mark Iliffe 
> > Cc: hot , john whelan 
> > Subject: Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location
> code
> >
> > Hello Mark
> > I looked at what3words
> > The idea is quite good but I'm not sure why there appears to be no
> "indexing" two cells addresses three meters apart differ in all the three
> words and the addressing is way too sensible ... locating a tent would
> return serveral addresses
> > It would be easier if the three words in the sequence would provide
> increasing detail in the geographic location
> > So the addresses of the tent would differ only in the last word of the
> sequence
> > Is the something I misunderstood or neglected in the what3words concept?
> > Tomaso
> >
> > Il 03/Mag/2015 00:14, "Mark Iliffe"  ha scritto:
> > Hi John, All,
> >
> > what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word
> component also is quite good at error checking.
> >
> > Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have
> a cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My
> experience in rural Tanzania is that they don't have that experience. We've
> been integrating what3words so people will be able phone or text location.
> ID numbers on water points just washed away/eroded. what3words works even
> under partial degradation, then it can be error corrected unlike a postcode
> where every digit is relevant.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 2 May 2015, at 23:52, john whelan  wrote:
> >
> >> what3words is nice but is commercial.  I was hoping for some sort of
> open data prem code postcode idea.  UK prem code is the house number so a
> prem code followed by the postcode is a unique address.  Example 10pr82az
> is 10 weld road southport pr8 2az.
> >>
> >> Cheerio John
> >>
> >> On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe  wrote:
> >> Hi Claire,
> >>
> >> Have you had a look at "what3words": http://what3words.com? It's three
> words and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes.
> >>
> >> In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through
> pilots) for locating/identifying water points and will 

Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-03 Thread Mark Iliffe
Stéphane,

There will be shortly, will reply to this thread in due course. At the moment 
we’re working on extending relationships with community members and government 
from our pilot in June last year to scale regionally.

Best,

Mark

> On 3 May 2015, at 12:18, Stéphane Henriod  wrote:
> 
> This What3words looks like a genius idea to me!
> 
> I especially like this comitment in the FAQ:
> 
> If we, what3words ltd, are ever unable to maintain the what3words technology 
> or make arrangements for it to be maintained by a third-party (with that 
> third-party being willing to make this same commitment), then we will release 
> our source code into the public domain. We will do this in such a way and 
> with suitable licences and documentation to ensure that any and all users of 
> what3words, whether they are individuals, businesses, charitable 
> organisations, aid agencies, governments or anyone else can continue to rely 
> on the what3words system.
> 
> @Mark: do you have some feedback about your pilot in Tanzania? Any report or 
> something we can have a look at?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Stéphane
> --
> "No one goes so far or so fast as the man who does not know where he is 
> going."
> "Any worthwhile expedition can be planned on the back of an envelope."
> Bill Tillman
> 
> On 3 May 2015 12:06, "Krishma Nayee"  <mailto:kris...@what3words.com>> wrote:
> Hi Tomaso,
> 
> Yes that is true, there is no ‘indexing’ between neighbouring squares. The 
> algorithm converts coordinates into the 3 word address which are unique but 
> fixed.
> 
> Yes locating a tent would return several addresses, but it is just like 
> collecting a set of coordinates for each tent. The benefit being that you can 
> now communicate that location in a human friendly and rapid way. You can 
> collect the 3 word location for the front of the tent or the centroid (if the 
> coordinates have already been collected  you can use the batch conversion 
> tool - http://developer.what3words.com/batch-conversion-tool/ 
> <http://developer.what3words.com/batch-conversion-tool/>).
> 
> Human beings make errors. The system is optimized to recognise and 
> autocorrect both sharer and receiver mistakes. The what3words autocorrect 
> system picks up errors in spelling, typing, speaking, and mishearing 3 word 
> locations.
> 
> The system has shuffled all of similar sounding 3 word locations as far away 
> from each other as possible, so it can use your location to intelligently 
> guess where you meant. A lot of the time when the similar sounding addresses 
> are near enough to each other it can be very confusing and often results in 
> huge delays whilst the user works out what has gone wrong and what the right 
> address actually is.
> 
> Krishma
> 
> > From: Tomaso Bertoli  > <mailto:tomaso.bert...@gmail.com>>
> > Date: 3 May 2015 10:44:51 CEST
> > To: Mark Iliffe mailto:m...@markiliffe.co.uk>>
> > Cc: hot mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org>>, john whelan 
> > mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location 
> > code
> >
> > Hello Mark
> > I looked at what3words
> > The idea is quite good but I'm not sure why there appears to be no 
> > "indexing" two cells addresses three meters apart differ in all the three 
> > words and the addressing is way too sensible ... locating a tent would 
> > return serveral addresses
> > It would be easier if the three words in the sequence would provide 
> > increasing detail in the geographic location
> > So the addresses of the tent would differ only in the last word of the 
> > sequence
> > Is the something I misunderstood or neglected in the what3words concept?
> > Tomaso
> >
> > Il 03/Mag/2015 00:14, "Mark Iliffe"  > <mailto:m...@markiliffe.co.uk>> ha scritto:
> > Hi John, All,
> >
> > what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word 
> > component also is quite good at error checking.
> >
> > Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have a 
> > cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My experience 
> > in rural Tanzania is that they don't have that experience. We've been 
> > integrating what3words so people will be able phone or text location. ID 
> > numbers on water points just washed away/eroded. what3words works even 
> > under partial degradation, then it can be error corrected unlike a postcode 
> > where every digit is relevant.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Se

Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code

2015-05-03 Thread Stéphane Henriod
Ok, look forward to reading about it!

Thanks and cheers

Stéphane

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2015-05-03 18:15 GMT+02:00 Mark Iliffe :

> Stéphane,
>
> There will be shortly, will reply to this thread in due course. At the
> moment we’re working on extending relationships with community members and
> government from our pilot in June last year to scale regionally.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>
> On 3 May 2015, at 12:18, Stéphane Henriod  wrote:
>
> This What3words looks like a genius idea to me!
>
> I especially like this comitment in the FAQ:
>
> If we, what3words ltd, are ever unable to maintain the what3words
> technology or make arrangements for it to be maintained by a third-party
> (with that third-party being willing to make this same commitment), then we
> will release our source code into the public domain. We will do this in
> such a way and with suitable licences and documentation to ensure that any
> and all users of what3words, whether they are individuals, businesses,
> charitable organisations, aid agencies, governments or anyone else can
> continue to rely on the what3words system.
>
> @Mark: do you have some feedback about your pilot in Tanzania? Any report
> or something we can have a look at?
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
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> going."
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> Bill Tillman
> On 3 May 2015 12:06, "Krishma Nayee"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Tomaso,
>>
>> Yes that is true, there is no ‘indexing’ between neighbouring squares.
>> The algorithm converts coordinates into the 3 word address which are unique
>> but fixed.
>>
>> Yes locating a tent would return several addresses, but it is just like
>> collecting a set of coordinates for each tent. The benefit being that you
>> can now communicate that location in a human friendly and rapid way. You
>> can collect the 3 word location for the front of the tent or the centroid
>> (if the coordinates have already been collected  you can use the batch
>> conversion tool - http://developer.what3words.com/batch-conversion-tool/
>> ).
>>
>> Human beings make errors. The system is optimized to recognise and
>> autocorrect both sharer and receiver mistakes. The what3words autocorrect
>> system picks up errors in spelling, typing, speaking, and mishearing 3 word
>> locations.
>>
>> The system has shuffled all of similar sounding 3 word locations as far
>> away from each other as possible, so it can use your location to
>> intelligently guess where you meant. A lot of the time when the similar
>> sounding addresses are near enough to each other it can be very confusing
>> and often results in huge delays whilst the user works out what has gone
>> wrong and what the right address actually is.
>>
>> Krishma
>>
>> > From: Tomaso Bertoli 
>> > Date: 3 May 2015 10:44:51 CEST
>> > To: Mark Iliffe 
>> > Cc: hot , john whelan 
>> > Subject: Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open
>> location code
>> >
>> > Hello Mark
>> > I looked at what3words
>> > The idea is quite good but I'm not sure why there appears to be no
>> "indexing" two cells addresses three meters apart differ in all the three
>> words and the addressing is way too sensible ... locating a tent would
>> return serveral addresses
>> > It would be easier if the three words in the sequence would provide
>> increasing detail in the geographic location
>> > So the addresses of the tent would differ only in the last word of the
>> sequence
>> > Is the something I misunderstood or neglected in the what3words concept?
>> > Tomaso
>> >
>> > Il 03/Mag/2015 00:14, "Mark Iliffe"  ha scritto:
>> > Hi John, All,
>> >
>> > what3wor