Re: [HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin
As Laurent Savaete stated, The Markseen plug in does the job already. When you put the parameters correct you have grip on what area you have scanned and still to do. fi. zooming till 20-30 meters gives enough detail to map, zooming out for an overview does not effect the mini map with scanned area. I always use it when validating large ( or collected small task) squares. Best regards Op 9/23/2020 om 5:48 PM schreef Laurent Savaete: Isn't the JOSM plugin MarkSeen https://github.com/risicle/josm-markseen very similar to what you're thinking about, or at least useful for your purposes? On 23/09/2020 16:42, Andrew Buck wrote: Its a good idea, and something the TODO list plugin was originally intended to do, in addition to its current functionality. I am the one who came up with the original idea for the plugin, but I am terrible with Java so Gnonthgol coded it up based on my idea. I wanted to also add the "area coverage feature" like you are describing as well as a "follow along way" function so you could follow along linear features like roads/waterways at some fairly close in zoom level along a long feature and it would track which parts you have examined. So I definitely think your idea has merit. My only quibble would be to not add a second layer with squares, as OSM objects. You could do that, but its a bit hacky. Also I don't remember how well the TODO list deals with objects in other layers. Fortunately, you don't have to add the squares as objects anyway, since the todo list can track them internally without them being OSM objects, and plugins can draw to the map view themselves. Think about things like the validator plugin (which draws non osm object features to its own layer), or the fast draw plugin (which draws non osm objects to the active map layer as temporary lines that then get turned into proper OSM objects. So aside from the implementation details, I would say yes, this is definitely a good idea and one I would support being added directly to the TODO plugin as additional functionality. -AndrewBuck On 9/23/20 9:44 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: Dear fellow humanitarian mappers, When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I often find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a level at which I can quickly tell if everything that appears in imagery is mapped, and then systematically panning over the entire area of the task area (either with the mouse, or +an arrow key). This works until I find something that needs to be mapped, or needs to be mapped differently, in which case I zoom in, do the mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan" (keyboard shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back to where you were"). I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help. It divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller rectangles, and adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also adds the rectangles to a new data layer which is blocked from being uploaded from, or downloaded into). As each of these rectangles is reviewed, you can "Mark" it in the Todo List, and the Todo List will automatically zoom/pan the map to the next rectangle. Questions: 1) Would this be useful? 2) Does this functionality already exist? 3) Should I proceed with development? 4) Should it be its own plugin, or should it be combined with other functionality of use to this community (for example, I could move the duplicate building script functionality into this plugin)? Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Frans Schutz ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin
> > > I would support being added directly to the TODO plugin as additional > functionality. > One other thing that should be changed in the TODO Plugin to make this > work is that the current version expands the bbox of the object being > zoomed to (one reason is that you never want to try to zoom to the bbox of > a node), this would have to be changed so that the rectangles that have > been created are zoomed to very close to exactly. > > This is actually something I looked into changing a long time ago, like many years ago. Bear in mind that things may have changed since then but when I looked into it last this was the situation... When you select an object to work on via the Todo plugin it calls josm's internal "select and zoom" function on the object. That function decides the zoom level to use, and as of the last time I looked there was no way to specify how much buffer should be added around the bbox of the selected object. Over the years, the function seems to have changed to get a bit "tighter" around the object, it used to leave a lot more buffer around it, but it still leaves quite a bit. Not sure if the api had changed to allow the buffer size to be set by the caller, but that would be really nice. Now if the plugin were using it's own drawing routines like we discussed then all of this is moot since select and zoom only works on OSM objects anyway, and we would just call pan and zoom ourselves as separate functions, but just wanted to add a bit of background on the current behavior of the plugin. In any case the other plugin does already basically do what is desired anyway, so it might not be worth messing with. -AndrewBuck > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin
Andrew, Laurent, Thanks for your feedback! > Isn't the JOSM plugin MarkSeen https://github.com/risicle/josm-markseen very similar to what you're thinking about, or at least useful for your purposes? I was unaware of the MarkSeen plugin. I just tried it, and I think it fills the need I was trying to address for the most part. I see a slight advantage to the "ToDo List" based solution, in that it would do the panning/zooming and the marking as "done" with one click, but others may not see that advantage, and in any event, the incremental advantage may not be worth the effort. > My only quibble would be to not add a second layer with squares, as OSM objects This was just a quick way to get a "grid view" of the tasks. Objects, even objects without tags, show up as grey lines. > and plugins can draw to the map view themselves. If I go forward with this, I will investigate how difficult that is. I agree that this would be preferable to the OSM data layer. > Also I don't remember how well the TODO list deals with objects in other layers It works with objects that are not in the current layer - which is very handy. > I would support being added directly to the TODO plugin as additional functionality. One other thing that should be changed in the TODO Plugin to make this work is that the current version expands the bbox of the object being zoomed to (one reason is that you never want to try to zoom to the bbox of a node), this would have to be changed so that the rectangles that have been created are zoomed to very close to exactly. Mike On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 9:54 AM Andrew Buck wrote: > That looks very handy, and is pretty much what I was thinking. Thanks for > pointing it out Laurent, am looking forward to trying it out. > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 10:49 AM Laurent Savaete wrote: > >> Isn't the JOSM plugin MarkSeen https://github.com/risicle/josm-markseen >> very similar to what you're thinking about, or at least useful for your >> purposes? >> >> >> On 23/09/2020 16:42, Andrew Buck wrote: >> >> Its a good idea, and something the TODO list plugin was originally >> intended to do, in addition to its current functionality. I am the one who >> came up with the original idea for the plugin, but I am terrible with Java >> so Gnonthgol coded it up based on my idea. >> >> I wanted to also add the "area coverage feature" like you are describing >> as well as a "follow along way" function so you could follow along linear >> features like roads/waterways at some fairly close in zoom level along a >> long feature and it would track which parts you have examined. >> >> So I definitely think your idea has merit. My only quibble would be to >> not add a second layer with squares, as OSM objects. You could do that, >> but its a bit hacky. Also I don't remember how well the TODO list deals >> with objects in other layers. Fortunately, you don't have to add the >> squares as objects anyway, since the todo list can track them internally >> without them being OSM objects, and plugins can draw to the map view >> themselves. Think about things like the validator plugin (which draws non >> osm object features to its own layer), or the fast draw plugin (which draws >> non osm objects to the active map layer as temporary lines that then get >> turned into proper OSM objects. >> >> So aside from the implementation details, I would say yes, this is >> definitely a good idea and one I would support being added directly to the >> TODO plugin as additional functionality. >> >> -AndrewBuck >> >> >> >> On 9/23/20 9:44 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: >> >> Dear fellow humanitarian mappers, >> >> When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I often >> find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a level at which >> I can quickly tell if everything that appears in imagery is mapped, and >> then systematically panning over the entire area of the task area (either >> with the mouse, or +an arrow key). This works until I find something >> that needs to be mapped, or needs to be mapped differently, in which case I >> zoom in, do the mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan" >> (keyboard shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple >> zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back to >> where you were"). >> >> I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help. It >> divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller rectangles, and >> adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also adds the rectangles to a new >> data layer which is blocked from being uploaded from, or downloaded into). >> As each of these rectangles is reviewed, you can "Mark" it in the Todo >> List, and the Todo List will automatically zoom/pan the map to the next >> rectangle. >> >> Questions: >> 1) Would this be useful? >> 2) Does this functionality already exist? >> 3) Should I proceed with development? >> 4) Should it be its own plugin, or should it be combin
Re: [HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin
That looks very handy, and is pretty much what I was thinking. Thanks for pointing it out Laurent, am looking forward to trying it out. On Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 10:49 AM Laurent Savaete wrote: > Isn't the JOSM plugin MarkSeen https://github.com/risicle/josm-markseen > very similar to what you're thinking about, or at least useful for your > purposes? > > > On 23/09/2020 16:42, Andrew Buck wrote: > > Its a good idea, and something the TODO list plugin was originally > intended to do, in addition to its current functionality. I am the one who > came up with the original idea for the plugin, but I am terrible with Java > so Gnonthgol coded it up based on my idea. > > I wanted to also add the "area coverage feature" like you are describing > as well as a "follow along way" function so you could follow along linear > features like roads/waterways at some fairly close in zoom level along a > long feature and it would track which parts you have examined. > > So I definitely think your idea has merit. My only quibble would be to > not add a second layer with squares, as OSM objects. You could do that, > but its a bit hacky. Also I don't remember how well the TODO list deals > with objects in other layers. Fortunately, you don't have to add the > squares as objects anyway, since the todo list can track them internally > without them being OSM objects, and plugins can draw to the map view > themselves. Think about things like the validator plugin (which draws non > osm object features to its own layer), or the fast draw plugin (which draws > non osm objects to the active map layer as temporary lines that then get > turned into proper OSM objects. > > So aside from the implementation details, I would say yes, this is > definitely a good idea and one I would support being added directly to the > TODO plugin as additional functionality. > > -AndrewBuck > > > > On 9/23/20 9:44 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > Dear fellow humanitarian mappers, > > When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I often > find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a level at which > I can quickly tell if everything that appears in imagery is mapped, and > then systematically panning over the entire area of the task area (either > with the mouse, or +an arrow key). This works until I find something > that needs to be mapped, or needs to be mapped differently, in which case I > zoom in, do the mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan" > (keyboard shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple > zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back to > where you were"). > > I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help. It > divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller rectangles, and > adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also adds the rectangles to a new > data layer which is blocked from being uploaded from, or downloaded into). > As each of these rectangles is reviewed, you can "Mark" it in the Todo > List, and the Todo List will automatically zoom/pan the map to the next > rectangle. > > Questions: > 1) Would this be useful? > 2) Does this functionality already exist? > 3) Should I proceed with development? > 4) Should it be its own plugin, or should it be combined with other > functionality of use to this community (for example, I could move the > duplicate building script functionality into this plugin)? > > Mike > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin
Isn't the JOSM plugin MarkSeen https://github.com/risicle/josm-markseen very similar to what you're thinking about, or at least useful for your purposes? On 23/09/2020 16:42, Andrew Buck wrote: Its a good idea, and something the TODO list plugin was originally intended to do, in addition to its current functionality. I am the one who came up with the original idea for the plugin, but I am terrible with Java so Gnonthgol coded it up based on my idea. I wanted to also add the "area coverage feature" like you are describing as well as a "follow along way" function so you could follow along linear features like roads/waterways at some fairly close in zoom level along a long feature and it would track which parts you have examined. So I definitely think your idea has merit. My only quibble would be to not add a second layer with squares, as OSM objects. You could do that, but its a bit hacky. Also I don't remember how well the TODO list deals with objects in other layers. Fortunately, you don't have to add the squares as objects anyway, since the todo list can track them internally without them being OSM objects, and plugins can draw to the map view themselves. Think about things like the validator plugin (which draws non osm object features to its own layer), or the fast draw plugin (which draws non osm objects to the active map layer as temporary lines that then get turned into proper OSM objects. So aside from the implementation details, I would say yes, this is definitely a good idea and one I would support being added directly to the TODO plugin as additional functionality. -AndrewBuck On 9/23/20 9:44 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: Dear fellow humanitarian mappers, When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I often find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a level at which I can quickly tell if everything that appears in imagery is mapped, and then systematically panning over the entire area of the task area (either with the mouse, or +an arrow key). This works until I find something that needs to be mapped, or needs to be mapped differently, in which case I zoom in, do the mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan" (keyboard shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back to where you were"). I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help. It divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller rectangles, and adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also adds the rectangles to a new data layer which is blocked from being uploaded from, or downloaded into). As each of these rectangles is reviewed, you can "Mark" it in the Todo List, and the Todo List will automatically zoom/pan the map to the next rectangle. Questions: 1) Would this be useful? 2) Does this functionality already exist? 3) Should I proceed with development? 4) Should it be its own plugin, or should it be combined with other functionality of use to this community (for example, I could move the duplicate building script functionality into this plugin)? Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin
Its a good idea, and something the TODO list plugin was originally intended to do, in addition to its current functionality. I am the one who came up with the original idea for the plugin, but I am terrible with Java so Gnonthgol coded it up based on my idea. I wanted to also add the "area coverage feature" like you are describing as well as a "follow along way" function so you could follow along linear features like roads/waterways at some fairly close in zoom level along a long feature and it would track which parts you have examined. So I definitely think your idea has merit. My only quibble would be to not add a second layer with squares, as OSM objects. You could do that, but its a bit hacky. Also I don't remember how well the TODO list deals with objects in other layers. Fortunately, you don't have to add the squares as objects anyway, since the todo list can track them internally without them being OSM objects, and plugins can draw to the map view themselves. Think about things like the validator plugin (which draws non osm object features to its own layer), or the fast draw plugin (which draws non osm objects to the active map layer as temporary lines that then get turned into proper OSM objects. So aside from the implementation details, I would say yes, this is definitely a good idea and one I would support being added directly to the TODO plugin as additional functionality. -AndrewBuck On 9/23/20 9:44 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: Dear fellow humanitarian mappers, When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I often find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a level at which I can quickly tell if everything that appears in imagery is mapped, and then systematically panning over the entire area of the task area (either with the mouse, or +an arrow key). This works until I find something that needs to be mapped, or needs to be mapped differently, in which case I zoom in, do the mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan" (keyboard shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back to where you were"). I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help. It divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller rectangles, and adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also adds the rectangles to a new data layer which is blocked from being uploaded from, or downloaded into). As each of these rectangles is reviewed, you can "Mark" it in the Todo List, and the Todo List will automatically zoom/pan the map to the next rectangle. Questions: 1) Would this be useful? 2) Does this functionality already exist? 3) Should I proceed with development? 4) Should it be its own plugin, or should it be combined with other functionality of use to this community (for example, I could move the duplicate building script functionality into this plugin)? Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin
Dear fellow humanitarian mappers, When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I often find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a level at which I can quickly tell if everything that appears in imagery is mapped, and then systematically panning over the entire area of the task area (either with the mouse, or +an arrow key). This works until I find something that needs to be mapped, or needs to be mapped differently, in which case I zoom in, do the mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan" (keyboard shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back to where you were"). I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help. It divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller rectangles, and adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also adds the rectangles to a new data layer which is blocked from being uploaded from, or downloaded into). As each of these rectangles is reviewed, you can "Mark" it in the Todo List, and the Todo List will automatically zoom/pan the map to the next rectangle. Questions: 1) Would this be useful? 2) Does this functionality already exist? 3) Should I proceed with development? 4) Should it be its own plugin, or should it be combined with other functionality of use to this community (for example, I could move the duplicate building script functionality into this plugin)? Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
