Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[Arun Ganesh]

For a general JOSM guide, you can use the documentation made by the data
team at Mapbox. Its been designed to be more visual than text heavy, and
includes advanced guides for validations, shortcuts and plugins:

https://www.mapbox.com/mapping/

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:06 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was being lazy and didn't want to search through a hundred tutorials to
> find what was needed.  I wanted something fairly quickly to correct someone
> who was mapping iD fairly quickly and productively but was making classic
> mistakes that JOSM catches.  I gave him some feedback and they seem to have
> settled down now.
>
> The written one in French works well, its easy to translate to other
> languages.  The mappers I seem to be dealing with first language is not
> English, French or Spanish so the videos aren't quite so useful.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 3 October 2016 at 15:16, Andrew Wiseman <awise...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> There are a number of other tutorial videos here on the HOT Youtube page
>> that have subtitles in English, Spanish and some in French:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/hotosm/videos
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
>>> corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
>>> often working in maperthons.
>>>
>>> I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these
>>> days.  I think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
>>> area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
>>> last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
>>> given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
>>> person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
>>> footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
>>> ignore them.
>>>
>>> Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new
>>> mappers coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.
>>> Because the tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the
>>> project it doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get
>>> compounded.
>>>
>>> Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
>>> landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
>>> realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
>>> backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.
>>>
>>> So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
>>> until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
>>> make JOSM easier to use.
>>>
>>> Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
>>> accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
>>> world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
>>> to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
>>> even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
>>> validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
>>> second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
>>> tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
>>> Google or Bing translate.
>>>
>>> On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment
>>> so any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The
>>> project is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the
>>> result.  The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming
>>> along quite nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would
>>> like.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt <m_nobleco...@cartong.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
>>>> would it be relevant to translate it?):
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-ope
>>>> nstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/
>>>>
>>>> Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.
>

Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[john whelan]

I was being lazy and didn't want to search through a hundred tutorials to
find what was needed.  I wanted something fairly quickly to correct someone
who was mapping iD fairly quickly and productively but was making classic
mistakes that JOSM catches.  I gave him some feedback and they seem to have
settled down now.

The written one in French works well, its easy to translate to other
languages.  The mappers I seem to be dealing with first language is not
English, French or Spanish so the videos aren't quite so useful.

Cheerio John

On 3 October 2016 at 15:16, Andrew Wiseman <awise...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> There are a number of other tutorial videos here on the HOT Youtube page
> that have subtitles in English, Spanish and some in French:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/hotosm/videos
>
> Andrew
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
>> corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
>> often working in maperthons.
>>
>> I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these days.
>> I think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
>> area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
>> last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
>> given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
>> person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
>> footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
>> ignore them.
>>
>> Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new
>> mappers coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.
>> Because the tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the
>> project it doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get
>> compounded.
>>
>> Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
>> landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
>> realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
>> backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.
>>
>> So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
>> until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
>> make JOSM easier to use.
>>
>> Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
>> accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
>> world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
>> to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
>> even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
>> validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
>> second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
>> tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
>> Google or Bing translate.
>>
>> On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment
>> so any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The
>> project is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the
>> result.  The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming
>> along quite nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would
>> like.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt <m_nobleco...@cartong.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
>>> would it be relevant to translate it?):
>>>
>>> http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-ope
>>> nstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/
>>>
>>> Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
>>> From: Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> <bgirar...@gmail.com>
>>> To: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> <hot@openstreetmap.org> 
>>> <hot@openstreetmap.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
>>> tutorial?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CABmB++QFrwk1XjBLh5PPYd445+TUri0uUUP=ltlgpr0mc8r...@mail.gmail.com> 
>

Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[Andrew Wiseman]

Hi John,

There are a number of other tutorial videos here on the HOT Youtube page
that have subtitles in English, Spanish and some in French:

https://www.youtube.com/user/hotosm/videos

Andrew

On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
> corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
> often working in maperthons.
>
> I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these days.
> I think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
> area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
> last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
> given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
> person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
> footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
> ignore them.
>
> Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new
> mappers coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.
> Because the tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the
> project it doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get
> compounded.
>
> Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
> landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
> realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
> backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.
>
> So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
> until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
> make JOSM easier to use.
>
> Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
> accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
> world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
> to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
> even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
> validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
> second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
> tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
> Google or Bing translate.
>
> On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment
> so any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The
> project is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the
> result.  The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming
> along quite nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would
> like.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt <m_nobleco...@cartong.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
>> would it be relevant to translate it?):
>>
>> http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-ope
>> nstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/
>>
>> Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
>> From: Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> <bgirar...@gmail.com>
>> To: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> <hot@openstreetmap.org> 
>> <hot@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
>>  tutorial?
>> Message-ID:
>>  <CABmB++QFrwk1XjBLh5PPYd445+TUri0uUUP=ltlgpr0mc8r...@mail.gmail.com> 
>> <CABmB++QFrwk1XjBLh5PPYd445+TUri0uUUP=ltlgpr0mc8r...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
>> covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
>> it comes across though):
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU
>>
>> Feedback from your friend welcome.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Blake
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> 
>> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, 
>> > how> to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How 
>> > to> select Bing imagery.>> How to toggle the screen 

Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[john whelan]

These are exceptionally good, however I missed any reference to View,
Toggle dialogs panel, which is important as if you hit the tab key all the
menus disappear and you have to know to hit the tab again to get them
back.  It's probably mentioned and I missed it but it might be worthwhile
checking as it can be frustrating to lose the menus.

Cheerio John

On 2 October 2016 at 09:02, Yantisa Akhadi 
wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> Here are the JOSM tutorial that our team used in training:
>
>- Chapter 4: Getting started with JOSM
>
> 
>- Chapter 5: Editing with JOSM
>
>
> It is part of Data Collection using OSM training materials. Feedback is
> welcome.
>
> Best,
>
> *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
> *Project Manager for Indonesia*
> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
> Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yant...@hotosm.org
> hotosm.org | openstreetmap.id
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan  wrote:
>
>> So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin,
>> how to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to
>> select Bing imagery.
>>
>> How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on
>> the right.
>>
>> And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.
>>
>> Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been
>> told that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after
>> them with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite
>> capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map a
>> relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> ___
>> HOT mailing list
>> HOT@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>>
>>
>
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[Yantisa Akhadi]

Hello John,

Here are the JOSM tutorial that our team used in training:

   - Chapter 4: Getting started with JOSM
   

   - Chapter 5: Editing with JOSM
   

It is part of Data Collection using OSM training materials. Feedback is
welcome.

Best,

*Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)*
*Project Manager for Indonesia*
*Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
Tel: +62 81 5787 03388  Email: yant...@hotosm.org
hotosm.org | openstreetmap.id

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan  wrote:

> So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin,
> how to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to
> select Bing imagery.
>
> How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on the
> right.
>
> And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.
>
> Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been
> told that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after
> them with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite
> capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map a
> relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.
>
> Thanks John
>
> ___
> HOT mailing list
> HOT@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>
>
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[john whelan]

Perhaps another question might simply be how would you use them and what is
the advantage of just adding tags? Do I assume you draw a way and instead
of tagging it conventionally you go the the preset menu, select the
appropriate preset which then applies the tags?  Seems slower to me with
more steps.

Thanks John

On 2 October 2016 at 08:28, john whelan  wrote:

> Strangely enough I've never used JOSM presets, what is the advantage?
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 2 October 2016 at 08:16, yo paseopor  wrote:
>
>> Also there is a HOT preset (you can activate it in Preferences > Presets
>> for JOSM.
>>
>> yopaseopor
>>
>> ___
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>> HOT@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>>
>>
>
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[john whelan]

Strangely enough I've never used JOSM presets, what is the advantage?

Thanks John

On 2 October 2016 at 08:16, yo paseopor  wrote:

> Also there is a HOT preset (you can activate it in Preferences > Presets
> for JOSM.
>
> yopaseopor
>
> ___
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> HOT@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>
>
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[yo paseopor]

Also there is a HOT preset (you can activate it in Preferences > Presets
for JOSM.

yopaseopor
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[john whelan]

The French tutorial is actually very useful.  I'm working in the odd
corners of Africa at the moment.  The mappers come from all over the world
often working in maperthons.

I think my hang up is data quality so I mainly do validation these days.  I
think in the last week I've tagged over a hundred untagged ways or
area=yes, I wouldn't like to say how many highway=road I've retagged in the
last week but its in the hundreds.  Highway=road unfortunately is the tag
given to GPS tracks that have been converted into a highway where the
person who does the conversion doesn't know if there are steps in a
footpath or if its a motorway.  As a result many of routing programs will
ignore them.

Another problem is new mappers not completing a tile then other new mappers
coming along behind and copying the first mappers mistakes.  Because the
tile hasn't been completed even if there is a validator on the project it
doesn't get validated or corrected so the problems get compounded.

Actually another problem I'm seeing is all the highways within a
landuse=residential being tagged highway=residential.  Fine until you
realise that the routing software will try to avoid routing traffic down
backstreets and suddenly there is no routable path across the town.

So in some parts of the map perhaps 30% or more of the work is ignored
until its retagged and that's what I'm trying to avoid by finding ways to
make JOSM easier to use.

Blake's videos are great but unfortunately he speaks with an American
accent.  I find it fairly easy to understand but there are people in the
world whose first language is English who will have to rewind once or twice
to catch the words.  Accents are regional, believe it or not some people
even have problems with my English accent.  Looking at the mappers I'm
validating the ones with the most problems are those who use English as a
second language or even just Bing / Google translate it.  The French
tutorial is much more useful for them as they can cut and paste it into
Google or Bing translate.

On a side note I'm handholding a Statistics Canada project at the moment so
any French documentation is very useful to feed back to them.  The project
is about adding data to OpenStreetMap then doing some stats on the result.
The cultures at Stats and OSM are very different but its coming along quite
nicely albeit a little slower than their project manager would like.

Cheerio John

On 2 October 2016 at 04:50, Martin Noblecourt <m_nobleco...@cartong.org>
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here,
> would it be relevant to translate it?):
>
> http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-
> openstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/
>
> Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.
>
> Best
>
> Martin
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
> From: Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> <bgirar...@gmail.com>
> To: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> <hot@openstreetmap.org> 
> <hot@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
>   tutorial?
> Message-ID:
>   <CABmB++QFrwk1XjBLh5PPYd445+TUri0uUUP=ltlgpr0mc8r...@mail.gmail.com> 
> <CABmB++QFrwk1XjBLh5PPYd445+TUri0uUUP=ltlgpr0mc8r...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi John,
>
> Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
> covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
> it comes across though):
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU
>
> Feedback from your friend welcome.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> 
> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, 
> > how> to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How 
> > to> select Bing imagery.>> How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when 
> > you lose the stuff on the> right.>> And finally how to upload.  So setting 
> > the token.>> Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who 
> > has been told> that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to 
> > clean up after them> with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting 
> > when they are quite> capable of doing it themselves and I want something 
> > basic not how to map a> relationship because that is not what most of the 
> > HOT stuff is.>> Thanks John>> 
> > ___> HOT mailing list> 
> > HOT@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot>
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic, tutorial?

[Martin Noblecourt]

Hi John,

We also have similar tutorial in French (I know, not very helpful here, 
would it be relevant to translate it?):


http://blog.cartong.org/2014/07/24/tuto-digitaliser-sous-openstreetmap-avec-le-tasking-manager-et-josm-premiers-pas/ 



Else the video Blake sent is the best we have I think.

Best

Martin


Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 06:47:42 +0200
From: Blake Girardot<bgirar...@gmail.com>
To: john whelan<jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
Cc:"hot@openstreetmap.org"  <hot@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic
tutorial?
Message-ID:
<CABmB++QFrwk1XjBLh5PPYd445+TUri0uUUP=ltlgpr0mc8r...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi John,

Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
it comes across though):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU

Feedback from your friend welcome.

Regards,
Blake

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan<jwhelan0...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, how
>to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to
>select Bing imagery.
>
>How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on the
>right.
>
>And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.
>
>Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been told
>that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after them
>with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite
>capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map a
>relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.
>
>Thanks John
>
>___
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>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>


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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[john whelan]

I had a very quick skim through but I wasn't sure if you mentioned the tab
key, ie toggle dialogs panel, important because of you touch the tab key
and your dialogs panel disappears how do you get it back?  Also seeing more
image on the screen and less dialog helps when visually scanning.  Second
do you cover the  for moving round the screen?  Not
essential but it does help with a systematic scan of the tile rather than
using the mouse.

Thanks John

On 1 October 2016 at 00:47, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
> covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
> it comes across though):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU
>
> Feedback from your friend welcome.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan  wrote:
> > So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin,
> how
> > to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to
> > select Bing imagery.
> >
> > How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on
> the
> > right.
> >
> > And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.
> >
> > Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been
> told
> > that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after
> them
> > with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite
> > capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map
> a
> > relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.
> >
> > Thanks John
> >
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[john whelan]

I think that covers it quite nicely.  Not quite sure I like the inference
that you have to start with iD.

Thanks John

On 1 October 2016 at 00:47, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
> covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
> it comes across though):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU
>
> Feedback from your friend welcome.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan  wrote:
> > So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin,
> how
> > to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to
> > select Bing imagery.
> >
> > How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on
> the
> > right.
> >
> > And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.
> >
> > Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been
> told
> > that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after
> them
> > with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite
> > capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map
> a
> > relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.
> >
> > Thanks John
> >
> > ___
> > HOT mailing list
> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >
>
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Re: [HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[Blake Girardot]

Hi John,

Far from perfect, but I believe the "JOSM for iD Users" youtube vids
covers most of that (might need one on imagery use in JOSM, hopefully
it comes across though):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL54o5PaKgnbKU-vXe11cSmmsxIYnL5oDU

Feedback from your friend welcome.

Regards,
Blake

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 3:19 AM, john whelan  wrote:
> So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, how
> to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to
> select Bing imagery.
>
> How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on the
> right.
>
> And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.
>
> Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been told
> that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after them
> with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite
> capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map a
> relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.
>
> Thanks John
>
> ___
> HOT mailing list
> HOT@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
>

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[HOT] JOSM for HOT can someone point me at a basic tutorial?

[john whelan]

So how to install,  how to add remote control and building_tool plugin, how
to map a square building, a highway and a landuse=residential.  How to
select Bing imagery.

How to toggle the screen ie use the tab key when you lose the stuff on the
right.

And finally how to upload.  So setting the token.

Yes I know about learnOSM but I have a fairly keen mapper who has been told
that JOSM is too complex which is fine except I have to clean up after them
with the crossing ways and highways nearly meeting when they are quite
capable of doing it themselves and I want something basic not how to map a
relationship because that is not what most of the HOT stuff is.

Thanks John
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