[HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries
I am working on putting together a Humanitarian Mapathon at our local public library (Loveland, Colorado, US). This will be an event sponsored by the library (we will not simply be using one of their meeting rooms) and as such they will be publicizing the event on their website and through their newsletters. They do have a couple of questions: 1) Should they promote the event to "families" (e.g. young people accompanied by parents). What should be the minimum age a) for young people mapping independent of a parent, b) for young people mapping with a parent? 2) Can mapping be done on a tablet (e.g. iPad). I know there are apps for this, but will the iD Editor work on tablets, and how difficult is it to do remote mapping on such a device? Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > > As a general rule, you should avoid anyone 13 and under as there would be > legal hassles involved in targeting activities and signups to that age > range. > > It is a library sponsored event, we are only a "guest presenter." The library would be the one doing the "targeting" > The advantage of a tablet is has a GPS and can be where you are mapping, > which avoids taking notes down and allows you to enter data in the field. > It isn't well suited for remote mapping. > > Currently we are planning a Humanitarian Mapathon, so all mapping will be remote. It sounds like tablets will not be workable for that situation. > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries
Mike, Happy to see more mappers making use of public libraries and good on your library for sponsoring the event. Mapathons are a great compliment to the library makerspaces, have good mapathon infrastructure, and good staff support. I'm a strong advocate of bringing your kids. It teaches them at a young age the lifelong skill of how to read the landscape. Bring your parents, too. There is no minimum age, per se. IIRC Courtney Clark/Peace Corps (cc'ed here) has some metrics around mapping productivity of differing age groups. While grade school children may not be as digitally adept as older kids, but they're still old enough to use a FieldPaper to do a bit of field work & sketch a map. Have fun. Leaving it for others to weigh in on tablets, pro/con. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes. --*Ludwig Wittgenstein* On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > I am working on putting together a Humanitarian Mapathon at our local > public library (Loveland, Colorado, US). This will be an event sponsored > by the library (we will not simply be using one of their meeting rooms) and > as such they will be publicizing the event on their website and through > their newsletters. They do have a couple of questions: > > 1) Should they promote the event to "families" (e.g. young people > accompanied by parents). What should be the minimum age a) for young people > mapping independent of a parent, b) for young people mapping with a parent? > > 2) Can mapping be done on a tablet (e.g. iPad). I know there are apps for > this, but will the iD Editor work on tablets, and how difficult is it to do > remote mapping on such a device? > > Mike > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries
> Happy to see more mappers making use of public libraries and good on your > library for sponsoring the event. Mapathons are a great compliment to the > library makerspaces, have good mapathon infrastructure, and good staff > support. > Should be a good change of pace from the brew pub setting we normally use. It will be more family friendly, and folks that do not have a laptop can use a library computer. > > Bring your parents, too. > Good point! In the past we have had a few people say "I can't make it to the mapathon, but my mom is retired and has lots of time, she would love it!" > > There is no minimum age, per se. IIRC Courtney Clark/Peace Corps (cc'ed > here) has some metrics around mapping productivity of differing age groups. > While grade school children may not be as digitally adept as older kids, > but they're still old enough to use a FieldPaper to do a bit of field work > & sketch a map. Have fun. > Sounds like we should have gone for a local mapping event vs. a remote one as it would give more of an opportunity to be hands on. If this goes well hopefully they will want to work with us again. We can also put in a proposal to present about mapathons at one of their conferences in order to interest other libraries. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries
Hi Mike, great! We should definitely cross-promote on OSM-CO, hopefully I can make it. 1) Yes, please invite families – some of our best mapathons (especially field mapping) have been so much better with kids involved – because they’re curious and aren’t afraid to ask the ‘simple’ questions :) Note: The library might want to have a ‘permission slip’ for unaccompanied minors – and we should maybe suggest ‘high school’ age. 2) Yes, we (OSM-CO) have done a ‘mapping party’ in Evergreen where ‘the kids’ were using Pushpin and Field Papers and at the event at Castle Rock library we did a bit of training on GoMap! Note: I’ve used OSMAND and Vespucci a bit, but mostly use iPhone myself; I’m sure we can find someone through OSM-CO who could provide training on Android apps. =Russ From: Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:17 AM To: HOT Subject: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries I am working on putting together a Humanitarian Mapathon at our local public library (Loveland, Colorado, US). This will be an event sponsored by the library (we will not simply be using one of their meeting rooms) and as such they will be publicizing the event on their website and through their newsletters. They do have a couple of questions: 1) Should they promote the event to "families" (e.g. young people accompanied by parents). What should be the minimum age a) for young people mapping independent of a parent, b) for young people mapping with a parent? 2) Can mapping be done on a tablet (e.g. iPad). I know there are apps for this, but will the iD Editor work on tablets, and how difficult is it to do remote mapping on such a device? Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries
On 3/17/2016 10:17 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: 1) Should they promote the event to "families" (e.g. young people accompanied by parents). What should be the minimum age a) for young people mapping independent of a parent, b) for young people mapping with a parent? As a general rule, you should avoid anyone 13 and under as there would be legal hassles involved in targeting activities and signups to that age range. 2) Can mapping be done on a tablet (e.g. iPad). Yes. I know there are apps for this, but will the iD Editor work on tablets No. iD does not have touchscreen support and is developed for desktops. and how difficult is it to do remote mapping on such a device? The advantage of a tablet is has a GPS and can be where you are mapping, which avoids taking notes down and allows you to enter data in the field. It isn't well suited for remote mapping. I'd also recommend that everyone have a mouse with a scroll wheel. Editor software is usable without one, but like any vector drawing software, a mouse significantly increases productivity. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries
Oh, hey – I’ll take this off-list with Mike as I ‘put on my local organizer hat’ (for the HOT audience, sorry OSM-Colorado not Colombia :) and realize you’re asking about remote mapping, but think especially as we reach out more ‘publicly’ and get kids/families involved we need to look at more than just the remote humanitarian mapping. =Russ From: Russell Deffner [mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:26 AM To: 'Mike Thompson'; 'HOT' Subject: RE: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries Hi Mike, great! We should definitely cross-promote on OSM-CO, hopefully I can make it. 1) Yes, please invite families – some of our best mapathons (especially field mapping) have been so much better with kids involved – because they’re curious and aren’t afraid to ask the ‘simple’ questions :) Note: The library might want to have a ‘permission slip’ for unaccompanied minors – and we should maybe suggest ‘high school’ age. 2) Yes, we (OSM-CO) have done a ‘mapping party’ in Evergreen where ‘the kids’ were using Pushpin and Field Papers and at the event at Castle Rock library we did a bit of training on GoMap! Note: I’ve used OSMAND and Vespucci a bit, but mostly use iPhone myself; I’m sure we can find someone through OSM-CO who could provide training on Android apps. =Russ From: Mike Thompson [mailto:miketh...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:17 AM To: HOT Subject: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries I am working on putting together a Humanitarian Mapathon at our local public library (Loveland, Colorado, US). This will be an event sponsored by the library (we will not simply be using one of their meeting rooms) and as such they will be publicizing the event on their website and through their newsletters. They do have a couple of questions: 1) Should they promote the event to "families" (e.g. young people accompanied by parents). What should be the minimum age a) for young people mapping independent of a parent, b) for young people mapping with a parent? 2) Can mapping be done on a tablet (e.g. iPad). I know there are apps for this, but will the iD Editor work on tablets, and how difficult is it to do remote mapping on such a device? Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
