Re: [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response
On 5/12/2016 10:23 AM, john whelan wrote: The Canadian Treasury Board releases Federal Government open data under a license that is OSM compatible. Sometimes its easier to get governments to open their data under the same license as another Government than to make an exception for OSM as very few people really understand what OSM's ODBL license actually is. Unfortunately no one other than the Federal Government of Canada can use the version of the OGL that the Federal government uses, and we're only able to use the data thanks to an explicit statement that the license is compatible with the ODbL (and CC BY), so we'd need the same statement from any other government using a similar license. In short, don't recommend the OGL Canada, recommend a reusable license like CC0. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response
The Canadian Treasury Board releases Federal Government open data under a license that is OSM compatible. Sometimes its easier to get governments to open their data under the same license as another Government than to make an exception for OSM as very few people really understand what OSM's ODBL license actually is. I maybe able to find a contact at TB who might be able to assist with the leverage if that would help. Cheerio John On 12 May 2016 at 02:49, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Kate, > > If you can get explicit permissions to import the data under OSM’s ODBL > license — explicit being a signed statement from the data’s owners saying > that — then an import is 100% possible. The licensing requirement is very > strictly enforced so that’s fundamental. License aside, imports can take > some time though so be prepared to be patient. There are members on this > listserv with a lot of import experience who could give you advice to make > the process faster. > > If you want to edit the boundaries yourself you’re more than welcome to if > you know the right answers. If there are lots of edits to be made then an > import might be faster — if there are just a few then self-editing might be > fastest. > > You can certainly get feedback from this listserv about which tags to use > / possible problems editing the data. As Russ suggests, Fiji is a bit of a > special case because it straddles the 180th meridian, which can make some > things difficult. > > Hope this is helpful! > > Best, > Robert > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:31 AM Kate Learmonth <kate.learmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thank you Russel. >> >> From what I understand there isn't complete data at the top level >> (state). Things don't seem to be correctly tagged, for example the Western >> Division boundary has no administrative level etc.. As this is a national >> boundary I am not sure of how to go about correcting this. There also seems >> to be a general lack of detailed data that has been mapped so far. >> >> At the moment I am trying to determine if it is a matter of simply going >> in and making the changes or given that it is a political boundary do we >> need government buy in etc?? >> >> I am also trying to determine if it is worth going through the process of >> doing a bulk import. While it looks like we can get access >> to detailed shape files (MapInfo) I don't know if they meet >> the licensing requirements). So I am trying to determine if we can get >> around this and fix the issue quickly so that we can use it for the >> U-Report Fiji website. >> >> Being new to OSM if anyone has any thoughts or ideas I am very open >> to suggestions! >> >> Thank you! >> >> Kate >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Russell Deffner < >> russell.deff...@hotosm.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Kate, >>> >>> >>> >>> U-Report looks great, there are probably others that can give you better >>> assistance, but I’m wondering if some of the errors are related to the 180 >>> th meridian? You might find some of the information you need on one of >>> these pages: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/180th_meridian or >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Fiji >>> >>> >>> >>> I also don’t do much editing of political boundaries, but I’m sure if >>> something needs fixed – it can be. Maybe a little more information on the >>> exact nature of the ‘errors’ and someone can provide more details. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> =Russ >>> >>> >>> >>> Russell Deffner >>> >>> russell.deff...@hotosm.org >>> >>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) >>> >>> http://hotosm.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Kate Learmonth [mailto:kate.learmo...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:30 PM >>> *To:* hot@openstreetmap.org >>> *Subject:* [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear HOT list, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am working with UNICEF Pacific to roll out U-Report Fiji as a pilot >>> community feedback mechanism for TC Winston. This will be the first time it >>> will be government-led and used in this type of emergency response. The >>> Fijian Government is also interested in using U-Report for early warning, >>> ear
Re: [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response
Hi Kate, If you can get explicit permissions to import the data under OSM’s ODBL license — explicit being a signed statement from the data’s owners saying that — then an import is 100% possible. The licensing requirement is very strictly enforced so that’s fundamental. License aside, imports can take some time though so be prepared to be patient. There are members on this listserv with a lot of import experience who could give you advice to make the process faster. If you want to edit the boundaries yourself you’re more than welcome to if you know the right answers. If there are lots of edits to be made then an import might be faster — if there are just a few then self-editing might be fastest. You can certainly get feedback from this listserv about which tags to use / possible problems editing the data. As Russ suggests, Fiji is a bit of a special case because it straddles the 180th meridian, which can make some things difficult. Hope this is helpful! Best, Robert On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:31 AM Kate Learmonth <kate.learmo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Russel. > > From what I understand there isn't complete data at the top level > (state). Things don't seem to be correctly tagged, for example the Western > Division boundary has no administrative level etc.. As this is a national > boundary I am not sure of how to go about correcting this. There also seems > to be a general lack of detailed data that has been mapped so far. > > At the moment I am trying to determine if it is a matter of simply going > in and making the changes or given that it is a political boundary do we > need government buy in etc?? > > I am also trying to determine if it is worth going through the process of > doing a bulk import. While it looks like we can get access > to detailed shape files (MapInfo) I don't know if they meet > the licensing requirements). So I am trying to determine if we can get > around this and fix the issue quickly so that we can use it for the > U-Report Fiji website. > > Being new to OSM if anyone has any thoughts or ideas I am very open > to suggestions! > > Thank you! > > Kate > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Russell Deffner < > russell.deff...@hotosm.org> wrote: > >> Hi Kate, >> >> >> >> U-Report looks great, there are probably others that can give you better >> assistance, but I’m wondering if some of the errors are related to the 180 >> th meridian? You might find some of the information you need on one of >> these pages: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/180th_meridian or >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Fiji >> >> >> >> I also don’t do much editing of political boundaries, but I’m sure if >> something needs fixed – it can be. Maybe a little more information on the >> exact nature of the ‘errors’ and someone can provide more details. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> =Russ >> >> >> >> Russell Deffner >> >> russell.deff...@hotosm.org >> >> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) >> >> http://hotosm.org >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Kate Learmonth [mailto:kate.learmo...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:30 PM >> *To:* hot@openstreetmap.org >> *Subject:* [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response >> >> >> >> Dear HOT list, >> >> >> >> I am working with UNICEF Pacific to roll out U-Report Fiji as a pilot >> community feedback mechanism for TC Winston. This will be the first time it >> will be government-led and used in this type of emergency response. The >> Fijian Government is also interested in using U-Report for early warning, >> early response >> >> >> >> Due to errors in OSM for Fiji we are having trouble importing the map >> into the U-Report Fiji site https://fiji.ureport.in (live but not >> active). I am hoping someone on the HOT list can assist. >> >> >> >> Any thoughts on how to correct and improve OSM Fiji? >> >> >> >> I am copying part of an email below for further detail. >> >> >> >> cheers >> >> Kate >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> We are working closely with the Fijian Government on the implementation >> of U-Report Fiji as the foundations of a community feedback mechanism post >> Cyclone Winston. As you may be aware the U-Report websites map the polling >> data using OSM https://ureport.in (global site). >> >> >> >> Our RapidPro Vendor Nyaruka has informed us that there isn't complete >> data
Re: [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response
Hi Kate, U-Report looks great, there are probably others that can give you better assistance, but I’m wondering if some of the errors are related to the 180th meridian? You might find some of the information you need on one of these pages: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/180th_meridian or http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Fiji I also don’t do much editing of political boundaries, but I’m sure if something needs fixed – it can be. Maybe a little more information on the exact nature of the ‘errors’ and someone can provide more details. Thank you, =Russ Russell Deffner <mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org> russell.deff...@hotosm.org Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) <http://hotosm.org/> http://hotosm.org From: Kate Learmonth [mailto:kate.learmo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 2:30 PM To: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response Dear HOT list, I am working with UNICEF Pacific to roll out U-Report Fiji as a pilot community feedback mechanism for TC Winston. This will be the first time it will be government-led and used in this type of emergency response. The Fijian Government is also interested in using U-Report for early warning, early response Due to errors in OSM for Fiji we are having trouble importing the map into the U-Report Fiji site https://fiji.ureport.in (live but not active). I am hoping someone on the HOT list can assist. Any thoughts on how to correct and improve OSM Fiji? I am copying part of an email below for further detail. cheers Kate We are working closely with the Fijian Government on the implementation of U-Report Fiji as the foundations of a community feedback mechanism post Cyclone Winston. As you may be aware the U-Report websites map the polling data using OSM https://ureport.in (global site). Our RapidPro Vendor Nyaruka has informed us that there isn't complete data for Fiji; including at State level with things not being correctly tagged. For example, the Western boundary has no administrative level. The Secretariat of the Pacific Community (SPC) Geosciences division works closely with the Fijian Government and has mapped to 1:50,000 in MapInfo and could provide the shape files to correct the boundaries and hopefully improve data completeness (proper permissions and licenses to use the data in OSM still needs to be formally requested). However, as I am new to OSM I am not sure how to go about correcting this information on such a large scale (fyi http://www.spc.int). ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] OSM Fiji linked with U-Report for TC Winston response
Dear HOT list, I am working with UNICEF Pacific to roll out U-Report Fiji as a pilot community feedback mechanism for TC Winston. This will be the first time it will be government-led and used in this type of emergency response. The Fijian Government is also interested in using U-Report for early warning, early response Due to errors in OSM for Fiji we are having trouble importing the map into the U-Report Fiji site https://fiji.ureport.in (live but not active). I am hoping someone on the HOT list can assist. Any thoughts on how to correct and improve OSM Fiji? I am copying part of an email below for further detail. cheers Kate We are working closely with the Fijian Government on the implementation of U-Report Fiji as the foundations of a community feedback mechanism post Cyclone Winston. As you may be aware the U-Report websites map the polling data using OSM https://ureport.in (global site). Our RapidPro Vendor Nyaruka has informed us that there isn't complete data for Fiji; including at State level with things not being correctly tagged. For example, the Western boundary has no administrative level. The Secretariat of the Pacific Community (SPC) Geosciences division works closely with the Fijian Government and has mapped to 1:50,000 in MapInfo and could provide the shape files to correct the boundaries and hopefully improve data completeness (proper permissions and licenses to use the data in OSM still needs to be formally requested). However, as I am new to OSM I am not sure how to go about correcting this information on such a large scale (fyi http://www.spc.int). ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
