Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager Slow

[john whelan]

Just a comment, clicking on something multiple times probably makes things
worse.  The first click is in a buffer and gradually gets passed through.
By clicking a second or third time you're putting a bigger load on the
server.

Click once and wait is the way to the lightest load on the overloaded
server.  I confess I bring up spider whilst waiting.

Cheerio John

On 18 November 2016 at 20:44, Mike Thompson  wrote:

> Hi Blake,
>
> Thanks for your reply with all of the detailed information, and thanks for
> all that you do for HOT!
>
> I am glad to hear that the team is aware of the issue and that there are
> plans to resolve it.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
> blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> We are working to get this fixed permanently in the very near future
>> by distributing our infrastructure a bit more (1 month or less) and
>> make improvements to the Tasking Manager code so it is less demanding
>> on hardware in general (6 months).
>>
>> We also spent time last week trying to prepare the server for GeoWeek
>> knowing the load was going to be increased this week and met with
>> limited options for safely (read: untested changes) increasing
>> capacity.
>>
>> Over the last few months we have basically reached the limit of our
>> existing infrastructure as the load on the Tasking Manager has
>> increased due to increased use, which is, I do not want to say is
>> good, but an encouraging sign really because it is a result of both
>> organizations and mappers using the HOT Tasking Manager increasing a
>> fair amount.
>>
>> I apologize for it making mapping and validating more difficult, it is
>> very high priority for us, basically our top technical priority at the
>> moment. I really wish we were able  get some of these infrastructure
>> improvements in place sooner but it just was not possible.
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to write the email, we should have
>> communicated our awareness of the issue and our effort to get the
>> situation fixed more.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> Blake Girardot
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>> skype: jblakegirardot
>> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Mike Thompson 
>> wrote:
>> > The tasking manager seems to be slow and has been for some time.
>> Sometimes
>> > it is necessary to click on a choice multiple times before the tasking
>> > manager actually performs the requested action. Sometimes the project
>> grid
>> > doesn't show up right away or doesn't show up at all. Can anything be
>> done
>> > about this? It is slowing down mapping and validation, and it is
>> frustrating
>> > for new people who are just being introduced to the project (I try and
>> tell
>> > them that there are 1000's of people around the world on HOT projects
>> and
>> > that is why things are slow).
>> >
>> > I know that many of the people that support the project are volunteers
>> and
>> > that budgets for hosting services are tight.  I am not trying to be
>> > critical, but rather trying to raise awareness so that hopefully a
>> solution
>> > can be found.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager Slow

[Mike Thompson]

Hi Blake,

Thanks for your reply with all of the detailed information, and thanks for
all that you do for HOT!

I am glad to hear that the team is aware of the issue and that there are
plans to resolve it.

Mike


On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> We are working to get this fixed permanently in the very near future
> by distributing our infrastructure a bit more (1 month or less) and
> make improvements to the Tasking Manager code so it is less demanding
> on hardware in general (6 months).
>
> We also spent time last week trying to prepare the server for GeoWeek
> knowing the load was going to be increased this week and met with
> limited options for safely (read: untested changes) increasing
> capacity.
>
> Over the last few months we have basically reached the limit of our
> existing infrastructure as the load on the Tasking Manager has
> increased due to increased use, which is, I do not want to say is
> good, but an encouraging sign really because it is a result of both
> organizations and mappers using the HOT Tasking Manager increasing a
> fair amount.
>
> I apologize for it making mapping and validating more difficult, it is
> very high priority for us, basically our top technical priority at the
> moment. I really wish we were able  get some of these infrastructure
> improvements in place sooner but it just was not possible.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to write the email, we should have
> communicated our awareness of the issue and our effort to get the
> situation fixed more.
>
> Respectfully,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
> 
> Blake Girardot
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> skype: jblakegirardot
> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Mike Thompson 
> wrote:
> > The tasking manager seems to be slow and has been for some time.
> Sometimes
> > it is necessary to click on a choice multiple times before the tasking
> > manager actually performs the requested action. Sometimes the project
> grid
> > doesn't show up right away or doesn't show up at all. Can anything be
> done
> > about this? It is slowing down mapping and validation, and it is
> frustrating
> > for new people who are just being introduced to the project (I try and
> tell
> > them that there are 1000's of people around the world on HOT projects and
> > that is why things are slow).
> >
> > I know that many of the people that support the project are volunteers
> and
> > that budgets for hosting services are tight.  I am not trying to be
> > critical, but rather trying to raise awareness so that hopefully a
> solution
> > can be found.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ___
> > HOT mailing list
> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager Slow

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

Hi Mike,

We are working to get this fixed permanently in the very near future
by distributing our infrastructure a bit more (1 month or less) and
make improvements to the Tasking Manager code so it is less demanding
on hardware in general (6 months).

We also spent time last week trying to prepare the server for GeoWeek
knowing the load was going to be increased this week and met with
limited options for safely (read: untested changes) increasing
capacity.

Over the last few months we have basically reached the limit of our
existing infrastructure as the load on the Tasking Manager has
increased due to increased use, which is, I do not want to say is
good, but an encouraging sign really because it is a result of both
organizations and mappers using the HOT Tasking Manager increasing a
fair amount.

I apologize for it making mapping and validating more difficult, it is
very high priority for us, basically our top technical priority at the
moment. I really wish we were able  get some of these infrastructure
improvements in place sooner but it just was not possible.

Thank you for taking the time to write the email, we should have
communicated our awareness of the issue and our effort to get the
situation fixed more.

Respectfully,
Blake





Blake Girardot
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
skype: jblakegirardot
HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org


On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Mike Thompson  wrote:
> The tasking manager seems to be slow and has been for some time.  Sometimes
> it is necessary to click on a choice multiple times before the tasking
> manager actually performs the requested action. Sometimes the project grid
> doesn't show up right away or doesn't show up at all. Can anything be done
> about this? It is slowing down mapping and validation, and it is frustrating
> for new people who are just being introduced to the project (I try and tell
> them that there are 1000's of people around the world on HOT projects and
> that is why things are slow).
>
> I know that many of the people that support the project are volunteers and
> that budgets for hosting services are tight.  I am not trying to be
> critical, but rather trying to raise awareness so that hopefully a solution
> can be found.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
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[HOT] Tasking Manager Slow

[Mike Thompson]

The tasking manager seems to be slow and has been for some time.  Sometimes
it is necessary to click on a choice multiple times before the tasking
manager actually performs the requested action. Sometimes the project grid
doesn't show up right away or doesn't show up at all. Can anything be done
about this? It is slowing down mapping and validation, and it is
frustrating for new people who are just being introduced to the project (I
try and tell them that there are 1000's of people around the world on HOT
projects and that is why things are slow).

I know that many of the people that support the project are volunteers and
that budgets for hosting services are tight.  I am not trying to be
critical, but rather trying to raise awareness so that hopefully a solution
can be found.

Thanks,

Mike
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