[HOT] Where to start?

[john whelan]

Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.  I'm a fairly
experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and tagging details
working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time available where is the most
appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC isn't available so
the process will be different, so where/how do you suggest I start?

Thanks John
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Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[Kate Chapman]

Hi John,

Have you taken a look at the Tasking Managner? http://tasks.hotosm.org/

If you login there with your OSM account you'll see instructions for
various tasks. You can then pick one it checkout an area to work on.

Does that make sense?

Best,

-Kate

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, john whelan  wrote:

> Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.  I'm a fairly
> experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and tagging details
> working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time available where is the most
> appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC isn't available so
> the process will be different, so where/how do you suggest I start?
>
> Thanks John
>
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Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[john whelan]

I've picked up a task,
699 - Ebola Outbreak, ETC Locations Context - Experienced Mappers Only so
started up JOSM and imaged with Bing, the square I'm looking at looks as if
the basic road network is in already and many of the buildings are in as
well.  I can see a need for tags but short of being on the ground I can't
think of a way to find out the information.

Perhaps I'll try another task.

Thanks John

On 18 October 2014 13:07, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Have you taken a look at the Tasking Managner? http://tasks.hotosm.org/
>
> If you login there with your OSM account you'll see instructions for
> various tasks. You can then pick one it checkout an area to work on.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Best,
>
> -Kate
>
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, john whelan 
> wrote:
>
>> Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.  I'm a fairly
>> experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and tagging details
>> working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time available where is the most
>> appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC isn't available so
>> the process will be different, so where/how do you suggest I start?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
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Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[Kate Chapman]

Hi John,

Even though you are an experienced mapper perhaps start with a beginner
task. It is harder to identify feature of places you have never been though
really it is just a matter of practice.

Best,

Kate
On Oct 18, 2014 10:23 AM, "john whelan"  wrote:

> I've picked up a task,
> 699 - Ebola Outbreak, ETC Locations Context - Experienced Mappers Only so
> started up JOSM and imaged with Bing, the square I'm looking at looks as if
> the basic road network is in already and many of the buildings are in as
> well.  I can see a need for tags but short of being on the ground I can't
> think of a way to find out the information.
>
> Perhaps I'll try another task.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 18 October 2014 13:07, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Have you taken a look at the Tasking Managner? http://tasks.hotosm.org/
>>
>> If you login there with your OSM account you'll see instructions for
>> various tasks. You can then pick one it checkout an area to work on.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, john whelan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.  I'm a fairly
>>> experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and tagging details
>>> working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time available where is the most
>>> appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC isn't available so
>>> the process will be different, so where/how do you suggest I start?
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
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>>
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>> Indonesian mobile: +62 82123068370
>>
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Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[john whelan]

I had a look at a couple of those, drop roads in, even looking at those I
get the impression that most roads/tracks had been input or at least all
the ones I could see although the tiles were not marked completed.

I'll have a look at the tasks towards the end perhaps I can find a bit of
blank map there.

Thanks John

On 18 October 2014 13:36, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Even though you are an experienced mapper perhaps start with a beginner
> task. It is harder to identify feature of places you have never been though
> really it is just a matter of practice.
>
> Best,
>
> Kate
> On Oct 18, 2014 10:23 AM, "john whelan"  wrote:
>
>> I've picked up a task,
>> 699 - Ebola Outbreak, ETC Locations Context - Experienced Mappers Only so
>> started up JOSM and imaged with Bing, the square I'm looking at looks as if
>> the basic road network is in already and many of the buildings are in as
>> well.  I can see a need for tags but short of being on the ground I can't
>> think of a way to find out the information.
>>
>> Perhaps I'll try another task.
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On 18 October 2014 13:07, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Have you taken a look at the Tasking Managner? http://tasks.hotosm.org/
>>>
>>> If you login there with your OSM account you'll see instructions for
>>> various tasks. You can then pick one it checkout an area to work on.
>>>
>>> Does that make sense?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> -Kate
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, john whelan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.  I'm a fairly
 experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and tagging details
 working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time available where is the most
 appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC isn't available so
 the process will be different, so where/how do you suggest I start?

 Thanks John

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>>>
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>>> Indonesian mobile: +62 82123068370
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[Pierre Béland]

Hi John
Your experience could also be used for some import tasks.


For the West Ebola oubreak response, we have Import tasks that we reserve 
to experienced mappers. They are private jobs. If you are interestd to 
contribute to these tasks, simply answer me providing your OSM account.  You 
will find detailed instructions in the Task Jobs. Plus a group of 
experienced mappers is there to support for this.

To revise the place names, the contributor have to compare in JOSM layers 
from various sources. There is the Bing Imagery, GNS places names and 
actually for Liberia UNMIL place names. You have to decide which name to 
attribute and revise the tags.
regard
 
Pierre 




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Objet : Re: [HOT] Where to start?
 


I had a look at a couple of those, drop roads in, even looking at those I get 
the impression that most roads/tracks had been input or at least all the ones I 
could see although the tiles were not marked completed.


I'll have a look at the tasks towards the end perhaps I can find a bit of blank 
map there.


Thanks John



On 18 October 2014 13:36, Kate Chapman  wrote:

Hi John,
>Even though you are an experienced mapper perhaps start with a beginner task. 
>It is harder to identify feature of places you have never been though really 
>it is just a matter of practice.
>Best,
>Kate
>On Oct 18, 2014 10:23 AM, "john whelan"  wrote:
>
>I've picked up a task, 
>>
>>699 - Ebola Outbreak, ETC Locations Context - Experienced Mappers Only 
so started up JOSM and imaged with Bing, the square I'm looking at looks as if 
the basic road network is in already and many of the buildings are in as well.  
I can see a need for tags but short of being on the ground I can't think of a 
way to find out the information.
>>
>>
>>Perhaps I'll try another task.
>>
>>
>>Thanks John
>>
>>
>>
>>On 18 October 2014 13:07, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>>
>>Hi John,
>>>
>>>
>>>Have you taken a look at the Tasking Managner? http://tasks.hotosm.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>If you login there with your OSM account you'll see instructions for various 
>>>tasks. You can then pick one it checkout an area to work on.
>>>
>>>
>>>Does that make sense?
>>>
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>
>>>-Kate
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, john whelan  wrote:
>>>
>>>Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.  I'm a fairly 
>>>experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and tagging details 
>>>working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time available where is the most 
>>>appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC isn't available so 
>>>the process will be different, so where/how do you suggest I start?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks John 
>>>>
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>>>
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Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[Dan S]

Hi John,

On some tasks, you do often see that a lot of the data is already
there, due to previous mapping. Sometimes all the job is recently done
but for some reason it hasn't been marked as "Done" - we suspect that
sometimes people aren't sure that they've really done everything in
the square. If you look at a square and you're confident that the
instructions have already been carried out for this square (no
villages missed, etc) then it's valuable to us when you mark it as
"Done"... even if it wasn't you that did it!

Also you may also see comments alongside the square, which might give
you clues about specific things still to be done.

Best
Dan


2014-10-18 19:01 GMT+01:00 john whelan :
> I had a look at a couple of those, drop roads in, even looking at those I
> get the impression that most roads/tracks had been input or at least all the
> ones I could see although the tiles were not marked completed.
>
> I'll have a look at the tasks towards the end perhaps I can find a bit of
> blank map there.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 18 October 2014 13:36, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Even though you are an experienced mapper perhaps start with a beginner
>> task. It is harder to identify feature of places you have never been though
>> really it is just a matter of practice.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> On Oct 18, 2014 10:23 AM, "john whelan"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've picked up a task,
>>>
>>> 699 - Ebola Outbreak, ETC Locations Context - Experienced Mappers Only
>>>
>>> so started up JOSM and imaged with Bing, the square I'm looking at looks
>>> as if the basic road network is in already and many of the buildings are in
>>> as well.  I can see a need for tags but short of being on the ground I can't
>>> think of a way to find out the information.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I'll try another task.
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>> On 18 October 2014 13:07, Kate Chapman  wrote:

 Hi John,

 Have you taken a look at the Tasking Managner? http://tasks.hotosm.org/

 If you login there with your OSM account you'll see instructions for
 various tasks. You can then pick one it checkout an area to work on.

 Does that make sense?

 Best,

 -Kate

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, john whelan 
 wrote:
>
> Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.  I'm a fairly
> experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and tagging details
> working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time available where is the 
> most
> appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC isn't available so
> the process will be different, so where/how do you suggest I start?
>
> Thanks John
>
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Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[john whelan]

That makes a lot of sense.  I think there is a need for better meta data if
that is the term, if we are mapping from satellite or even Bing sometimes
it is not clear if something is a track, a footpath, or an unpaved road so
some guidance on how to tag might be useful.   My personal preference would
be highway=unclassified, anything else is more a guess even if its an
intelligent one.  Yes I can see there are guidelines for Highway_Tag_Africa
but from imagery it can be difficult to decide exactly the right one.

Huts? I've tagged building=house again really it needs some guidelines /
standard to be more useful.

HOT tasks with high detail imagery are probably the ones that mappers can
work more quickly and accurately on, cloudy Bing Satellite might be in the
right place but given the resources available I'd go for the high detail
imagery ones every time.

Perhaps what we need are teams? with a project leader to keep on top of
what is happening and to select the next bit to map even the images
available, the importance and the capabilities of the mappers.

Cheerio John


On 18 October 2014 15:22, Dan S  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> On some tasks, you do often see that a lot of the data is already
> there, due to previous mapping. Sometimes all the job is recently done
> but for some reason it hasn't been marked as "Done" - we suspect that
> sometimes people aren't sure that they've really done everything in
> the square. If you look at a square and you're confident that the
> instructions have already been carried out for this square (no
> villages missed, etc) then it's valuable to us when you mark it as
> "Done"... even if it wasn't you that did it!
>
> Also you may also see comments alongside the square, which might give
> you clues about specific things still to be done.
>
> Best
> Dan
>
>
> 2014-10-18 19:01 GMT+01:00 john whelan :
> > I had a look at a couple of those, drop roads in, even looking at those I
> > get the impression that most roads/tracks had been input or at least all
> the
> > ones I could see although the tiles were not marked completed.
> >
> > I'll have a look at the tasks towards the end perhaps I can find a bit of
> > blank map there.
> >
> > Thanks John
> >
> > On 18 October 2014 13:36, Kate Chapman  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> Even though you are an experienced mapper perhaps start with a beginner
> >> task. It is harder to identify feature of places you have never been
> though
> >> really it is just a matter of practice.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Kate
> >>
> >> On Oct 18, 2014 10:23 AM, "john whelan"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I've picked up a task,
> >>>
> >>> 699 - Ebola Outbreak, ETC Locations Context - Experienced Mappers Only
> >>>
> >>> so started up JOSM and imaged with Bing, the square I'm looking at
> looks
> >>> as if the basic road network is in already and many of the buildings
> are in
> >>> as well.  I can see a need for tags but short of being on the ground I
> can't
> >>> think of a way to find out the information.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps I'll try another task.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks John
> >>>
> >>> On 18 October 2014 13:07, Kate Chapman 
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi John,
> 
>  Have you taken a look at the Tasking Managner?
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/
> 
>  If you login there with your OSM account you'll see instructions for
>  various tasks. You can then pick one it checkout an area to work on.
> 
>  Does that make sense?
> 
>  Best,
> 
>  -Kate
> 
>  On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, john whelan 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.  I'm a fairly
> > experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and tagging
> details
> > working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time available where is
> the most
> > appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC isn't
> available so
> > the process will be different, so where/how do you suggest I start?
> >
> > Thanks John
> >
> > ___
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> > HOT@openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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>  & Economic Development
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Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[Rafael Avila Coya]

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Hi, John:

On 18/10/14 21:58, john whelan wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense.  I think there is a need for better meta
> data if that is the term, if we are mapping from satellite or even
> Bing sometimes it is not clear if something is a track, a footpath,
> or an unpaved road so some guidance on how to tag might be useful.
> My personal preference would be highway=unclassified, anything else
> is more a guess even if its an intelligent one.  Yes I can see
> there are guidelines for Highway_Tag_Africa but from imagery it can
> be difficult to decide exactly the right one.

In Africa, roads shouldn't be classified based on their conditions,
width, surface, etc, but, as it is stated in the Highway_Tag_Africa
wiki, the main source of classification should be their importance in
the communication among towns and villages. It takes some time to
adapt when coming from mapping in developed countries.

> 
> Huts? I've tagged building=house again really it needs some
> guidelines / standard to be more useful.

Do your best. Most dwellings are huts in rural Africa.

> 
> HOT tasks with high detail imagery are probably the ones that
> mappers can work more quickly and accurately on, cloudy Bing
> Satellite might be in the right place but given the resources
> available I'd go for the high detail imagery ones every time.

Welcome to the world of imagery scarcity ;)

> 
> Perhaps what we need are teams? with a project leader to keep on
> top of what is happening and to select the next bit to map even the
> images available, the importance and the capabilities of the
> mappers.

Many jobs in the Tasking Manager are part of a HOT activation. Every
activation is coordinated by one or two people. For example, the Ebola
activation is coordinated by Pierre Béland and Andrew Buck.

Cheers,

Rafael.

> 
> Cheerio John
> 
> 
> On 18 October 2014 15:22, Dan S  > wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> On some tasks, you do often see that a lot of the data is already 
> there, due to previous mapping. Sometimes all the job is recently
> done but for some reason it hasn't been marked as "Done" - we
> suspect that sometimes people aren't sure that they've really done
> everything in the square. If you look at a square and you're
> confident that the instructions have already been carried out for
> this square (no villages missed, etc) then it's valuable to us when
> you mark it as "Done"... even if it wasn't you that did it!
> 
> Also you may also see comments alongside the square, which might
> give you clues about specific things still to be done.
> 
> Best Dan
> 
> 
> 2014-10-18 19:01 GMT+01:00 john whelan  >:
>> I had a look at a couple of those, drop roads in, even looking
>> at
> those I
>> get the impression that most roads/tracks had been input or at
> least all the
>> ones I could see although the tiles were not marked completed.
>> 
>> I'll have a look at the tasks towards the end perhaps I can find
>> a
> bit of
>> blank map there.
>> 
>> Thanks John
>> 
>> On 18 October 2014 13:36, Kate Chapman  > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Even though you are an experienced mapper perhaps start with a
> beginner
>>> task. It is harder to identify feature of places you have
>>> never
> been though
>>> really it is just a matter of practice.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Kate
>>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2014 10:23 AM, "john whelan"  > wrote:
 
 I've picked up a task,
 
 699 - Ebola Outbreak, ETC Locations Context - Experienced
> Mappers Only
 
 so started up JOSM and imaged with Bing, the square I'm
 looking
> at looks
 as if the basic road network is in already and many of the
> buildings are in
 as well.  I can see a need for tags but short of being on
 the
> ground I can't
 think of a way to find out the information.
 
 Perhaps I'll try another task.
 
 Thanks John
 
 On 18 October 2014 13:07, Kate Chapman
  > wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Have you taken a look at the Tasking Managner?
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/
> 
> If you login there with your OSM account you'll see
> instructions for
> various tasks. You can then pick one it checkout an area
> to
> work on.
> 
> Does that make sense?
> 
> Best,
> 
> -Kate
> 
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:03 AM, john whelan
> mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Probably sounds dumb but I'll ask the question anyway.
>> I'm a
> fairly
>> experienced OSM mapper mainly doing CANVEC imports and
>> tagging
> details
>> working in JOSM so if I have have a bit of time
>> available
> where is the most
>> appropriate place to start thinking in terms of CANVEC
>> isn't
> available so
>> the process will be different, so where/how do you
>> sug

Re: [HOT] Where to start?

[Pierre Béland]

In the context of Activations in particular, it is important  to make an 
effort to classify the roads the best we can. This can make the 
difference for humanitarian organizations that have to reach these 
places.
From imagery, in general we can see if a road is large enough for a car to 
circulate. It is important to take the time to compare various zones to 
have the capacity to distinguish between a road and a path.  If it does 
not seem large enough for a car to circulate, we then apply a tag highway=path.
 
Pierre 




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Hi, John:

On 18/10/14 21:58, john whelan wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense.  I think there is a need for better meta
> data if that is the term, if we are mapping from satellite or even
> Bing sometimes it is not clear if something is a track, a footpath,
> or an unpaved road so some guidance on how to tag might be useful.
> My personal preference would be highway=unclassified, anything else
> is more a guess even if its an intelligent one.  Yes I can see
> there are guidelines for Highway_Tag_Africa but from imagery it can
> be difficult to decide exactly the right one.

In Africa, roads shouldn't be classified based on their conditions,
width, surface, etc, but, as it is stated in the Highway_Tag_Africa
wiki, the main source of classification should be their importance in
the communication among towns and villages. It takes some time to
adapt when coming from mapping in developed countries.

> 
> Huts? I've tagged building=house again really it needs some
> guidelines / standard to be more useful.

Do your best. Most dwellings are huts in rural Africa.

> 
> HOT tasks with high detail imagery are probably the ones that
> mappers can work more quickly and accurately on, cloudy Bing
> Satellite might be in the right place but given the resources
> available I'd go for the high detail imagery ones every time.

Welcome to the world of imagery scarcity ;)

> 
> Perhaps what we need are teams? with a project leader to keep on
> top of what is happening and to select the next bit to map even the
> images available, the importance and the capabilities of the
> mappers.

Many jobs in the Tasking Manager are part of a HOT activation. Every
activation is coordinated by one or two people. For example, the Ebola
activation is coordinated by Pierre Béland and Andrew Buck.

Cheers,

Rafael.

> 
> Cheerio John
> 
> 
> On 18 October 2014 15:22, Dan S  <mailto:danstowell+...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> On some tasks, you do often see that a lot of the data is already 
> there, due to previous mapping. Sometimes all the job is recently
> done but for some reason it hasn't been marked as "Done" - we
> suspect that sometimes people aren't sure that they've really done
> everything in the square. If you look at a square and you're
> confident that the instructions have already been carried out for
> this square (no villages missed, etc) then it's valuable to us when
> you mark it as "Done"... even if it wasn't you that did it!
> 
> Also you may also see comments alongside the square, which might
> give you clues about specific things still to be done.
> 
> Best Dan
> 
> 
> 2014-10-18 19:01 GMT+01:00 john whelan  <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>:
>> I had a look at a couple of those, drop roads in, even looking
>> at
> those I
>> get the impression that most roads/tracks had been input or at
> least all the
>> ones I could see although the tiles were not marked completed.
>> 
>> I'll have a look at the tasks towards the end perhaps I can find
>> a
> bit of
>> blank map there.
>> 
>> Thanks John
>> 
>> On 18 October 2014 13:36, Kate Chapman  <mailto:kate.chap...@hotosm.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Even though you are an experienced mapper perhaps start with a
> beginner
>>> task. It is harder to identify feature of places you have
>>> never
> been though
>>> really it is just a matter of practice.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Kate
>>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2014 10:23 AM, "john whelan"  <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've picked up a task,
>>>> 
>>>> 699 - Ebola Outbreak, ETC Locations Context - Experienced
> Mappers Only
>>>> 
>>>> so started up JOSM and imaged with Bing, the square I'm
>>>> looking
> at looks
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