[HOT] sending thank you notes to remote mappers too spammy?
Hi, I want to send to thank yous to those who joined the Hagupit/Ruby activation. Normally we say thanks via our local malinglist and HOT, would sending them a message via OSM messaging considered spam? -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] sending thank you notes to remote mappers too spammy?
Hi, I send thank you notes and have had nothing but good responses. I usually include a "let me know if you have any questions" sentence as well. I think people like some personal interaction. If anyone found it "spamy" they never said so to me. cheers, blake On 12/19/2014 3:31 PM, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I want to send to thank yous to those who joined the Hagupit/Ruby activation. Normally we say thanks via our local malinglist and HOT, would sending them a message via OSM messaging considered spam? ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] sending thank you notes to remote mappers too spammy?
The general threshold is, if you can do it manually, it's not spamming. If you can't do it manually, I'd propose to publish the message via many channels: the diaries/osm blogs, the weekly OSM, the wiki page, ... Regards, Sander 2014-12-19 17:38 GMT+01:00 Blake Girardot : > > Hi, > > I send thank you notes and have had nothing but good responses. I usually > include a "let me know if you have any questions" sentence as well. > > I think people like some personal interaction. If anyone found it "spamy" > they never said so to me. > > cheers, > blake > > > > On 12/19/2014 3:31 PM, maning sambale wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I want to send to thank yous to those who joined the Hagupit/Ruby >> activation. Normally we say thanks via our local malinglist and HOT, >> would sending them a message via OSM messaging considered spam? >> >> > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] sending thank you notes to remote mappers too spammy?
Sander Deryckere wrote: > > The general threshold is, if you can do it manually, it's not spamming. > > If you can't do it manually, I'd propose to publish the message via many > channels: the diaries/osm blogs, the weekly OSM, the wiki page, ... I rather disagree Sander, it is not about manual or automatic only. Many other factors could hold weight here: - solicited vs. unsolicited, - requesting something vs. giving something, - possibility to opt-in / opt-out, ... Regardless of 'spam' definition; you could do manually a detrimental communication and automatically a worthwhile one. Blake Girardot : >> >> I send thank you notes and have had nothing but good responses. I usually >> include a "let me know if you have any questions" sentence as well. >> >> I think people like some personal interaction. If anyone found it "spamy" >> they never said so to me. Blake I imagine your thank you note as individual and highly personalised with dedicated comments, specific feedback and whatnot! ;) What is discussed is certainly on an other scale (more diffusion and less individualisation). maning sambale wrote: >>> >>> I want to send to thank yous to those who joined the Hagupit/Ruby >>> activation. Normally we say thanks via our local malinglist and HOT, >>> would sending them a message via OSM messaging considered spam? In this case I don't think your messages could be considered spam. Activation start/end events are quite rare. This is only a thank you note, not proposing or requesting something else. Note: But it would be even better if people could easily choose to opt-out. And now my two cents: I would say go for short OSM messaging + link to a blog entry. And mention it for weekly OSM. No for wiki and lists. I do not see the wiki as useful here for a temporary and fleeting message. I would see the use of the mailing lists closer to spam because you would be flooding, not even trying to discriminate who was part and who was not. A big general 'thank you' on the lists is nice but much less considerate than making the effort to hand-pick the actual contributors. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] sending thank you notes to remote mappers too spammy?
Maning, if you decide to do a blog post summary, let me know if I can help. Heather Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.com Twitter: HeatherLeson Blog: textontechs.com On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 1:36 AM, althio forum wrote: > Sander Deryckere wrote: > > > > The general threshold is, if you can do it manually, it's not spamming. > > > > If you can't do it manually, I'd propose to publish the message via many > > channels: the diaries/osm blogs, the weekly OSM, the wiki page, ... > > I rather disagree Sander, it is not about manual or automatic only. > Many other factors could hold weight here: > - solicited vs. unsolicited, > - requesting something vs. giving something, > - possibility to opt-in / opt-out, ... > > Regardless of 'spam' definition; you could do manually a detrimental > communication and automatically a worthwhile one. > > > Blake Girardot : > >> > >> I send thank you notes and have had nothing but good responses. I > usually > >> include a "let me know if you have any questions" sentence as well. > >> > >> I think people like some personal interaction. If anyone found it > "spamy" > >> they never said so to me. > > Blake I imagine your thank you note as individual and highly > personalised with dedicated comments, specific feedback and whatnot! > ;) What is discussed is certainly on an other scale (more diffusion > and less individualisation). > > > maning sambale wrote: > >>> > >>> I want to send to thank yous to those who joined the Hagupit/Ruby > >>> activation. Normally we say thanks via our local malinglist and HOT, > >>> would sending them a message via OSM messaging considered spam? > > In this case I don't think your messages could be considered spam. > > Activation start/end events are quite rare. > This is only a thank you note, not proposing or requesting something else. > > Note: But it would be even better if people could easily choose to opt-out. > > > And now my two cents: > I would say go for short OSM messaging + link to a blog entry. And > mention it for weekly OSM. > No for wiki and lists. > I do not see the wiki as useful here for a temporary and fleeting message. > I would see the use of the mailing lists closer to spam because you > would be flooding, not even trying to discriminate who was part and > who was not. A big general 'thank you' on the lists is nice but much > less considerate than making the effort to hand-pick the actual > contributors. > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
