Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If they are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha wrote: > Hello, > > You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as > highway = tertiary. You can see the description in > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads > > Thanks, > Megha > > > > > > > He, all, > > I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task > > #1043. > > However, there is no tag for roads that fall between > highway=secondary > and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between > small > villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the > U.S. > These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than a > typical > track. > Do we tag those highway=secondary also? > > Charlotte > > > Charlotte Wolter > 927 18th Street Suite A > Santa Monica, California > 90403 > +1-310-597-4040 > techl...@techlady.com > Skype: thetechlady > > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -- Best Regards Amrit Karmacharya Instructor, Survey Officer Land Management Training Center ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use this information. If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved. Pierre De : amrit karmacharya À : Megha Shrestha Cc : hot Envoyé le : Jeudi 14 mai 2015 4h50 Objet : Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If they are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha wrote: Hello, You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as highway = tertiary. You can see the description inhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads Thanks,Megha He, all, I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task #1043. However, there is no tag for roads that fall between highway=secondary and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the U.S. These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than a typical track. Do we tag those highway=secondary also? Charlotte Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Best RegardsAmrit KarmacharyaInstructor, Survey OfficerLand Management Training Center ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
>Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use this information. Sounds like there is quite a bit of clean up to do on the highways many are tagged road. Cheerio John On 14 May 2015 at 06:33, Pierre Béland wrote: > Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use this > information. > > If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If > unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved. > > > Pierre > > -- > *De :* amrit karmacharya > *À :* Megha Shrestha > *Cc :* hot > *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 14 mai 2015 4h50 > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads > > The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If they > are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as > highway = tertiary. You can see the description in > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads > > Thanks, > Megha > > > > > > > He, all, > > I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task > > #1043. > > However, there is no tag for roads that fall between > highway=secondary > and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between > small > villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the > U.S. > These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than a > typical > track. > Do we tag those highway=secondary also? > > Charlotte > > > Charlotte Wolter > 927 18th Street Suite A > Santa Monica, California > 90403 > +1-310-597-4040 > techl...@techlady.com > Skype: thetechlady > > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > > -- > Best Regards > Amrit Karmacharya > Instructor, Survey Officer > Land Management Training Center > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
Agreed : the project instructions & wiki could use some clarification for consistency. I can help with that if there's agreement on the tagging scheme. The Nepal/Roads Wiki section on "tagging rural vehicular highways" states, "In practice highway=unclassified is usually the best choice", and "Sometimes highway=track is used, but in Nepal's classification scheme, it is typically used for agricultural roads." http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads#Tagging_rural_vehicular_highways That differs from project instructions (for several relevant Nepal projects), which don't mention 'unclassified' and say to use 'track'. I had been tagging many dirt roads as highway=track, consistent with instructions and other tiles I had viewed, but now I'm seeing more tiles using highway=unclassified for such roadways. Steve On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:32 AM, john whelan wrote: > >Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use > this information. > > Sounds like there is quite a bit of clean up to do on the highways many > are tagged road. > > Cheerio John > > On 14 May 2015 at 06:33, Pierre Béland wrote: > >> Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use >> this information. >> >> If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If >> unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved. >> >> >> Pierre >> >> ---------- >> *De :* amrit karmacharya >> *À :* Megha Shrestha >> *Cc :* hot >> *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 14 mai 2015 4h50 >> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads >> >> The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If >> they are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha > > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as >> highway = tertiary. You can see the description in >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads >> >> Thanks, >> Megha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> He, all, >> >> I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task >> >> #1043. >> >> However, there is no tag for roads that fall between >> highway=secondary >> and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between >> small >> villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the >> U.S. >> These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than >> a typical >> track. >> Do we tag those highway=secondary also? >> >> Charlotte >> >> >> Charlotte Wolter >> 927 18th Street Suite A >> Santa Monica, California >> 90403 >> +1-310-597-4040 >> techl...@techlady.com >> Skype: thetechlady >> >> >> >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> Amrit Karmacharya >> Instructor, Survey Officer >> Land Management Training Center >> >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
Pierre noted, "If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved." We might need some guidance on what constitutes a village for this purpose, for example, minimum number of buildings. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use this > information. > > If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If > unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved. > > > Pierre > > -- > *De :* amrit karmacharya > *À :* Megha Shrestha > *Cc :* hot > *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 14 mai 2015 4h50 > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads > > The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If they > are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as > highway = tertiary. You can see the description in > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads > > Thanks, > Megha > > > > > > > He, all, > > I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task > > #1043. > > However, there is no tag for roads that fall between > highway=secondary > and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between > small > villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the > U.S. > These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than a > typical > track. > Do we tag those highway=secondary also? > > Charlotte > > > Charlotte Wolter > 927 18th Street Suite A > Santa Monica, California > 90403 > +1-310-597-4040 > techl...@techlady.com > Skype: thetechlady > > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > > -- > Best Regards > Amrit Karmacharya > Instructor, Survey Officer > Land Management Training Center > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
Yes there is a need for clarification for consistency. It has been difficult for us to tag different roads as there nature as well as use differs from that described in the wiki. I think we can discuss further on the tagging scheme for roads in Nepal Thanks, Megha On Thu, May 14, 2015, 20:01 Steve Bower wrote: > Agreed : the project instructions & wiki could use some clarification for > consistency. I can help with that if there's agreement on the tagging > scheme. > > The Nepal/Roads Wiki section on "tagging rural vehicular highways" states, > "In practice highway=unclassified is usually the best choice", and > "Sometimes highway=track is used, but in Nepal's classification scheme, it > is typically used for agricultural roads." > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads#Tagging_rural_vehicular_highways > > That differs from project instructions (for several relevant Nepal > projects), which don't mention 'unclassified' and say to use 'track'. > > I had been tagging many dirt roads as highway=track, consistent with > instructions and other tiles I had viewed, but now I'm seeing more tiles > using highway=unclassified for such roadways. > > Steve > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:32 AM, john whelan > wrote: > >> >Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use >> this information. >> >> Sounds like there is quite a bit of clean up to do on the highways many >> are tagged road. >> >> Cheerio John >> >> On 14 May 2015 at 06:33, Pierre Béland wrote: >> >>> Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use >>> this information. >>> >>> If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If >>> unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved. >>> >>> >>> Pierre >>> >>> -- >>> *De :* amrit karmacharya >>> *À :* Megha Shrestha >>> *Cc :* hot >>> *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 14 mai 2015 4h50 >>> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads >>> >>> The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If >>> they are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. >>> >>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha < >>> meghashrest...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as >>> highway = tertiary. You can see the description in >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Megha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> He, all, >>> >>> I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task >>> >>> #1043. >>> >>> However, there is no tag for roads that fall between >>> highway=secondary >>> and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between >>> small >>> villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the >>> U.S. >>> These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than >>> a typical >>> track. >>> Do we tag those highway=secondary also? >>> >>> Charlotte >>> >>> >>> Charlotte Wolter >>> 927 18th Street Suite A >>> Santa Monica, California >>> 90403 >>> +1-310-597-4040 >>> techl...@techlady.com >>> Skype: thetechlady >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards >>> Amrit Karmacharya >>> Instructor, Survey Officer >>> Land Management Training Center >>> >>> ___ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
Steve We dont have time to reconcile with Nepal OSM community highway schema. Our friends at Kathmandu Living Labs are quite sollicited now and can revise the classification after this response. I would reserve highway=unclassified for end of networks, where the road connects to hamlets.Track is for roads connecting to forestry areas. They are generally at the end of the network branch. Pierre De : Steve Bower À : Pierre Béland Cc : amrit karmacharya ; Megha Shrestha ; hot Envoyé le : Jeudi 14 mai 2015 10h18 Objet : Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads Pierre noted, "If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved." We might need some guidance on what constitutes a village for this purpose, for example, minimum number of buildings. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use this information. If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved. Pierre De : amrit karmacharya À : Megha Shrestha Cc : hot Envoyé le : Jeudi 14 mai 2015 4h50 Objet : Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If they are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha wrote: Hello, You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as highway = tertiary. You can see the description inhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads Thanks,Megha He, all, I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task #1043. However, there is no tag for roads that fall between highway=secondary and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the U.S. These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than a typical track. Do we tag those highway=secondary also? Charlotte Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Best RegardsAmrit KarmacharyaInstructor, Survey OfficerLand Management Training Center ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
A note on villages: many villages in Nepal are spread out. People in rural areas don't bunch their homes together. There can be as much as 500 ft between neighbors, but they all consider themselves part of a village. Hope this helps. Suzan On May 14, 2015, at 7:18 AM, Steve Bower wrote: Pierre noted, "If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved." We might need some guidance on what constitutes a village for this purpose, for example, minimum number of buildings. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use this information. If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved. Pierre De : amrit karmacharya À : Megha Shrestha Cc : hot Envoyé le : Jeudi 14 mai 2015 4h50 Objet : Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If they are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha wrote: Hello, You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as highway = tertiary. You can see the description in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads Thanks, Megha He, all, I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task #1043. However, there is no tag for roads that fall between highway=secondary and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the U.S. These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than a typical track. Do we tag those highway=secondary also? Charlotte Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Best Regards Amrit Karmacharya Instructor, Survey Officer Land Management Training Center ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads
All buildings should be traced. If houses are clustered closed one to the other (more like usual hamlets or villages), trace a polygon around the houses with the tag landuse=residential. Pierre De : Suzan Reed À : Steve Bower Cc : Pierre Béland ; hot ; Megha Shrestha Envoyé le : Jeudi 14 mai 2015 23h30 Objet : Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads A note on villages: many villages in Nepal are spread out. People in rural areas don't bunch their homes together. There can be as much as 500 ft between neighbors, but they all consider themselves part of a village. Hope this helps. Suzan On May 14, 2015, at 7:18 AM, Steve Bower wrote: Pierre noted, "If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved." We might need some guidance on what constitutes a village for this purpose, for example, minimum number of buildings. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: Let's avoid to map highway = road since the routing software wont use this information. If road connect villages, indicate minimally highway=tertiary. If unpaved, add the tag surface=unpaved. Pierre De : amrit karmacharya À : Megha Shrestha Cc : hot Envoyé le : Jeudi 14 mai 2015 4h50 Objet : Re: [HOT] Fwd: Question on Task #1043 roads The appropriate one is highway = road, until it has been verified. If they are roughly two lane and long, then use highway = tertiary. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Megha Shrestha wrote: Hello, You can tag the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages as highway = tertiary. You can see the description in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads Thanks, Megha He, all, I read the instructions for tagging roads on Task #1043. However, there is no tag for roads that fall between highway=secondary and highway=track. What about the unpaved, but maintained roads between small villages? These are roads that we might tag highway=unclassified in the U.S. These roads often are (barely) two lanes. They're definitely larger than a typical track. Do we tag those highway=secondary also? Charlotte Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Best Regards Amrit Karmacharya Instructor, Survey Officer Land Management Training Center ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
