Re: FW: RE: [HSM] Re: FW: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Ariffin Ahmad
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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM,  wrote:

> Pandangan dari sahabat kita Hidir...
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> Subject: RE: [HSM] Re: FW: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail:
> Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban
> From: "Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD" <
> khi...@bankislam.com.my>
> Date: 10/08/2009 12:45 PM
>
>
> Boleh refer attachment...
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> From: nizam7...@gmail.com [mailto:nizam7...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:58 AM
> To: Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD
> Subject: FW: [HSM] Re: FW: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail:
> Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban
>
> Salam,
> Sheikh, sedikit pandangan dari sahabat kita, Ipin
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> -original message-
> Subject: [HSM] Re: FW: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis
> Palsu Rejab, Syaaban
> From: Ariffin Ahmad 
> Date: 10/08/2009 11:30 AM
>
> quote: "Logically speaking keempat2 imam (hanafi, maliki, hanbali dan
> shafie') adalah lebih wara'"
> mana mamat tu tau?
> dia dapat wahyu sendiri dari Allah Taala ke apa?...
> in fact, 4 imam tu sendiri pun tak tau status diri diaorang sendiri di sisi
> Allah Taala.
> pastu, sesuka hati panggil orang lain yg lain pendapat tu, wahabi, padahal
> diri sendiri pun tak tau wahabi tu sebenar nya apa dia.
>
>
> 2009/8/7 
>
> >
> > Sedikit ulasan dan komen dr sahabat kita, Khairul Hidir Ghazali...
> >
> > Powered by Nokia E71
> >
> > -original message-
> > Subject: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab,
> > Syaaban
> > From: "Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD" <
> > khi...@bankislam.com.my>
> > Date: 07/08/2009 2:59 PM
> >
> > Maaf sheikh, aku langsung takde kelayakan nak komen...tapi aku ada fwd
> > pendapat satu orang alim (maulana Nur Muhammad-boleh rujuk profile dia
> dalam
> > websitenya)...
> >
> > Cuba klik link kat bawah
> >
> > http://nasbunnuraini.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/nisfu-syaaban/
> >
> >
> > As a good friend, aku strongly suggest not to directly take any opinions
> > from the so called salafi / wahabi group (terus terang je la...)...they
> > choose not to take any school of fiqh (especially the 4 mazhab) and rely
> > straightway on Quran and Hadith only Seolah2 mereka lebih faham Quran
> &
> > Hadith, dan 4 imam mazhab tidak mengambilkira Quran & Hadith untuk
> membuat
> > hukum...
> >
> >
> >
> > Agama kita dah cukup lengkap dan sempurna dengan kehadiran 4 mazhab besar
> > yg sedia ada,
> >
> > Logically speaking keempat2 imam (hanafi, maliki, hanbali dan shafie')
> > adalah lebih wara' dan hampir dgn kelompok tabii'n (anak2 murid sahabat
> Nabi
> > SAW), maka diorang lebih dekat dgn Nabi SAW (untuk faham Hadith) dan
> Allah
> > SWT (untuk faham Quran).
> >
> >
> >
> > Cuba ko kaji bila group salafi / wahabi ni wujud...for sure, selepas
> zaman
> > keempat2 imam
> >
> > For instance, who is more familiar with our great grand fathers between
> our
> > father and grand father???
> >
> >
> >
> > So, dalam agama pun mcm tu jugak, keempat2 imam mazhab lebih a'lim dan
> > berakhlak drpd ulama' yang terkemudian, apatah lagi ulama' yg ada
> > skrg...cthnya, imam Shafie' hafal Quran semuda 10 tahun (or below 10) dan
> > menjadi amalannya untuk khatam Quran 61 kali dalam bulan Ramadhan (1x
> setiap
> > waktu siang & malam + 1x sepanjang solat terawih)ada ulama' salafi
> mcm
> > imam shafie'? atau ulama'2 mazhab lain?
> >
> >
> >
> > 1 contoh, ulama' salafi berpendapat amalan menutup kepala bukannya sunnah
> > kerana sumbernya dari hadith dhaif (lemah)otherwise, is there any
> hadith
> > sahih Nabi SAW tak pernah tutup kepala? Jwpnnya takde.so, hadith
> dhaif
> > boleh digunapakai(hadith jd dhaif bukan lemahnya kata2 Nabi SAW tapi
> > lemahnya salah seorg perawi Hadith...dlm Zaman skrg, kita yg lagi dhaif
> > sebenarnya, berbanding perawi2 yg disifatkan dhaif...
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Mohd Nizam Ismail [mailto:nizam7...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:07 PM
> > To: Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD
> > Subject: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu

[HSM] Re: FW: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Ariffin Ahmad
bukan apa.
ini jenis orang yg "mengata dulang paku serpih"
cakap orang tu wahabi la, ingat diri sendiri betul.
pastu, bila diaorang sendiri ingat dia yg paling betul, tu camna lak?...


2009/8/10 AaAa 

>
> ya, ampun!
>
> regards,
> AaAa
>
> On Aug 10, 11:30 am, Ariffin Ahmad  wrote:
> > quote: "Logically speaking keempat2 imam (hanafi, maliki, hanbali dan
> > shafie') adalah lebih wara'"
> > mana mamat tu tau?
> > dia dapat wahyu sendiri dari Allah Taala ke apa?...
> > in fact, 4 imam tu sendiri pun tak tau status diri diaorang sendiri di
> sisi
> > Allah Taala.
> > pastu, sesuka hati panggil orang lain yg lain pendapat tu, wahabi,
> padahal
> > diri sendiri pun tak tau wahabi tu sebenar nya apa dia.
> >
> > 2009/8/7 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sedikit ulasan dan komen dr sahabat kita, Khairul Hidir Ghazali...
> >
> > > Powered by Nokia E71
> >
> > > -original message-
> > > Subject: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu
> Rejab,
> > > Syaaban
> > > From: "Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD" <
> > > khi...@bankislam.com.my>
> > > Date: 07/08/2009 2:59 PM
> >
> > > Maaf sheikh, aku langsung takde kelayakan nak komen...tapi aku ada fwd
> > > pendapat satu orang alim (maulana Nur Muhammad-boleh rujuk profile dia
> dalam
> > > websitenya)...
> >
> > > Cuba klik link kat bawah
> >
> > >http://nasbunnuraini.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/nisfu-syaaban/
> >
> > > As a good friend, aku strongly suggest not to directly take any
> opinions
> > > from the so called salafi / wahabi group (terus terang je la...)...they
> > > choose not to take any school of fiqh (especially the 4 mazhab) and
> rely
> > > straightway on Quran and Hadith only Seolah2 mereka lebih faham
> Quran &
> > > Hadith, dan 4 imam mazhab tidak mengambilkira Quran & Hadith untuk
> membuat
> > > hukum...
> >
> > > Agama kita dah cukup lengkap dan sempurna dengan kehadiran 4 mazhab
> besar
> > > yg sedia ada,
> >
> > > Logically speaking keempat2 imam (hanafi, maliki, hanbali dan shafie')
> > > adalah lebih wara' dan hampir dgn kelompok tabii'n (anak2 murid sahabat
> Nabi
> > > SAW), maka diorang lebih dekat dgn Nabi SAW (untuk faham Hadith) dan
> Allah
> > > SWT (untuk faham Quran).
> >
> > > Cuba ko kaji bila group salafi / wahabi ni wujud...for sure, selepas
> zaman
> > > keempat2 imam
> >
> > > For instance, who is more familiar with our great grand fathers between
> our
> > > father and grand father???
> >
> > > So, dalam agama pun mcm tu jugak, keempat2 imam mazhab lebih a'lim dan
> > > berakhlak drpd ulama' yang terkemudian, apatah lagi ulama' yg ada
> > > skrg...cthnya, imam Shafie' hafal Quran semuda 10 tahun (or below 10)
> dan
> > > menjadi amalannya untuk khatam Quran 61 kali dalam bulan Ramadhan (1x
> setiap
> > > waktu siang & malam + 1x sepanjang solat terawih)ada ulama' salafi
> mcm
> > > imam shafie'? atau ulama'2 mazhab lain?
> >
> > > 1 contoh, ulama' salafi berpendapat amalan menutup kepala bukannya
> sunnah
> > > kerana sumbernya dari hadith dhaif (lemah)otherwise, is there any
> hadith
> > > sahih Nabi SAW tak pernah tutup kepala? Jwpnnya takde.so, hadith
> dhaif
> > > boleh digunapakai(hadith jd dhaif bukan lemahnya kata2 Nabi SAW
> tapi
> > > lemahnya salah seorg perawi Hadith...dlm Zaman skrg, kita yg lagi dhaif
> > > sebenarnya, berbanding perawi2 yg disifatkan dhaif...
> >
> > > 
> > > From: Mohd Nizam Ismail [mailto:nizam7...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:07 PM
> > > To: Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD
> > > Subject: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab,
> > > Syaaban
> >
> > > Hi khairul hidir ghazali,
> > > Your friend, Mohd Nizam Ismail, has recommended this article entitled
> > > 'Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban' to you.
> >
> > > Here is his/her remark:
> > > Salam Sheikh... Komen skit psl hal ni...
> >
> > > Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban
> > > Posted By admin On June 23, 2009 (5:56 pm) In Ibadat<
> > >http://drmaza.com/home/?cat=13>
> > >  Artikel ini merupakan Himpunan penulisan Dr Mohd Asri Bin
> Zainul
> > > Abidin yang terdahulu dica...
> >
> > > Article taken from Minda Tajdid -http://drmaza.com/home
> > > URL to article:http://drmaza.com/home/?p=646
> >
> > > 
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[HSM] Re: FW: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik AaAa

ya, ampun!

regards,
AaAa

On Aug 10, 11:30 am, Ariffin Ahmad  wrote:
> quote: "Logically speaking keempat2 imam (hanafi, maliki, hanbali dan
> shafie') adalah lebih wara'"
> mana mamat tu tau?
> dia dapat wahyu sendiri dari Allah Taala ke apa?...
> in fact, 4 imam tu sendiri pun tak tau status diri diaorang sendiri di sisi
> Allah Taala.
> pastu, sesuka hati panggil orang lain yg lain pendapat tu, wahabi, padahal
> diri sendiri pun tak tau wahabi tu sebenar nya apa dia.
>
> 2009/8/7 
>
>
>
>
>
> > Sedikit ulasan dan komen dr sahabat kita, Khairul Hidir Ghazali...
>
> > Powered by Nokia E71
>
> > -original message-
> > Subject: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab,
> > Syaaban
> > From: "Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD" <
> > khi...@bankislam.com.my>
> > Date: 07/08/2009 2:59 PM
>
> > Maaf sheikh, aku langsung takde kelayakan nak komen...tapi aku ada fwd
> > pendapat satu orang alim (maulana Nur Muhammad-boleh rujuk profile dia dalam
> > websitenya)...
>
> > Cuba klik link kat bawah
>
> >http://nasbunnuraini.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/nisfu-syaaban/
>
> > As a good friend, aku strongly suggest not to directly take any opinions
> > from the so called salafi / wahabi group (terus terang je la...)...they
> > choose not to take any school of fiqh (especially the 4 mazhab) and rely
> > straightway on Quran and Hadith only Seolah2 mereka lebih faham Quran &
> > Hadith, dan 4 imam mazhab tidak mengambilkira Quran & Hadith untuk membuat
> > hukum...
>
> > Agama kita dah cukup lengkap dan sempurna dengan kehadiran 4 mazhab besar
> > yg sedia ada,
>
> > Logically speaking keempat2 imam (hanafi, maliki, hanbali dan shafie')
> > adalah lebih wara' dan hampir dgn kelompok tabii'n (anak2 murid sahabat Nabi
> > SAW), maka diorang lebih dekat dgn Nabi SAW (untuk faham Hadith) dan Allah
> > SWT (untuk faham Quran).
>
> > Cuba ko kaji bila group salafi / wahabi ni wujud...for sure, selepas zaman
> > keempat2 imam
>
> > For instance, who is more familiar with our great grand fathers between our
> > father and grand father???
>
> > So, dalam agama pun mcm tu jugak, keempat2 imam mazhab lebih a'lim dan
> > berakhlak drpd ulama' yang terkemudian, apatah lagi ulama' yg ada
> > skrg...cthnya, imam Shafie' hafal Quran semuda 10 tahun (or below 10) dan
> > menjadi amalannya untuk khatam Quran 61 kali dalam bulan Ramadhan (1x setiap
> > waktu siang & malam + 1x sepanjang solat terawih)ada ulama' salafi mcm
> > imam shafie'? atau ulama'2 mazhab lain?
>
> > 1 contoh, ulama' salafi berpendapat amalan menutup kepala bukannya sunnah
> > kerana sumbernya dari hadith dhaif (lemah)otherwise, is there any hadith
> > sahih Nabi SAW tak pernah tutup kepala? Jwpnnya takde.so, hadith dhaif
> > boleh digunapakai(hadith jd dhaif bukan lemahnya kata2 Nabi SAW tapi
> > lemahnya salah seorg perawi Hadith...dlm Zaman skrg, kita yg lagi dhaif
> > sebenarnya, berbanding perawi2 yg disifatkan dhaif...
>
> > 
> > From: Mohd Nizam Ismail [mailto:nizam7...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:07 PM
> > To: Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD
> > Subject: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab,
> > Syaaban
>
> > Hi khairul hidir ghazali,
> > Your friend, Mohd Nizam Ismail, has recommended this article entitled
> > 'Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban' to you.
>
> > Here is his/her remark:
> > Salam Sheikh... Komen skit psl hal ni...
>
> > Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban
> > Posted By admin On June 23, 2009 (5:56 pm) In Ibadat<
> >http://drmaza.com/home/?cat=13>
> >  Artikel ini merupakan Himpunan penulisan Dr Mohd Asri Bin Zainul
> > Abidin yang terdahulu dica...
>
> > Article taken from Minda Tajdid -http://drmaza.com/home
> > URL to article:http://drmaza.com/home/?p=646
>
> > 
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[HSM] Re: FW: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Ariffin Ahmad
quote: "Logically speaking keempat2 imam (hanafi, maliki, hanbali dan
shafie') adalah lebih wara'"
mana mamat tu tau?
dia dapat wahyu sendiri dari Allah Taala ke apa?...
in fact, 4 imam tu sendiri pun tak tau status diri diaorang sendiri di sisi
Allah Taala.
pastu, sesuka hati panggil orang lain yg lain pendapat tu, wahabi, padahal
diri sendiri pun tak tau wahabi tu sebenar nya apa dia.


2009/8/7 

>
> Sedikit ulasan dan komen dr sahabat kita, Khairul Hidir Ghazali...
>
> Powered by Nokia E71
>
> -original message-
> Subject: RE: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab,
> Syaaban
> From: "Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD" <
> khi...@bankislam.com.my>
> Date: 07/08/2009 2:59 PM
>
> Maaf sheikh, aku langsung takde kelayakan nak komen...tapi aku ada fwd
> pendapat satu orang alim (maulana Nur Muhammad-boleh rujuk profile dia dalam
> websitenya)...
>
> Cuba klik link kat bawah
>
> http://nasbunnuraini.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/nisfu-syaaban/
>
>
> As a good friend, aku strongly suggest not to directly take any opinions
> from the so called salafi / wahabi group (terus terang je la...)...they
> choose not to take any school of fiqh (especially the 4 mazhab) and rely
> straightway on Quran and Hadith only Seolah2 mereka lebih faham Quran &
> Hadith, dan 4 imam mazhab tidak mengambilkira Quran & Hadith untuk membuat
> hukum...
>
>
>
> Agama kita dah cukup lengkap dan sempurna dengan kehadiran 4 mazhab besar
> yg sedia ada,
>
> Logically speaking keempat2 imam (hanafi, maliki, hanbali dan shafie')
> adalah lebih wara' dan hampir dgn kelompok tabii'n (anak2 murid sahabat Nabi
> SAW), maka diorang lebih dekat dgn Nabi SAW (untuk faham Hadith) dan Allah
> SWT (untuk faham Quran).
>
>
>
> Cuba ko kaji bila group salafi / wahabi ni wujud...for sure, selepas zaman
> keempat2 imam
>
> For instance, who is more familiar with our great grand fathers between our
> father and grand father???
>
>
>
> So, dalam agama pun mcm tu jugak, keempat2 imam mazhab lebih a'lim dan
> berakhlak drpd ulama' yang terkemudian, apatah lagi ulama' yg ada
> skrg...cthnya, imam Shafie' hafal Quran semuda 10 tahun (or below 10) dan
> menjadi amalannya untuk khatam Quran 61 kali dalam bulan Ramadhan (1x setiap
> waktu siang & malam + 1x sepanjang solat terawih)ada ulama' salafi mcm
> imam shafie'? atau ulama'2 mazhab lain?
>
>
>
> 1 contoh, ulama' salafi berpendapat amalan menutup kepala bukannya sunnah
> kerana sumbernya dari hadith dhaif (lemah)otherwise, is there any hadith
> sahih Nabi SAW tak pernah tutup kepala? Jwpnnya takde.so, hadith dhaif
> boleh digunapakai(hadith jd dhaif bukan lemahnya kata2 Nabi SAW tapi
> lemahnya salah seorg perawi Hadith...dlm Zaman skrg, kita yg lagi dhaif
> sebenarnya, berbanding perawi2 yg disifatkan dhaif...
>
>
>
> 
> From: Mohd Nizam Ismail [mailto:nizam7...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:07 PM
> To: Khairul Hidir Ghazali - Commercial Credit Assessment, RMD
> Subject: Recommended Article By Mohd Nizam Ismail: Hadis Palsu Rejab,
> Syaaban
>
>
> Hi khairul hidir ghazali,
> Your friend, Mohd Nizam Ismail, has recommended this article entitled
> 'Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban' to you.
>
> Here is his/her remark:
> Salam Sheikh... Komen skit psl hal ni...
>
> Hadis Palsu Rejab, Syaaban
> Posted By admin On June 23, 2009 (5:56 pm) In Ibadat<
> http://drmaza.com/home/?cat=13>
>  Artikel ini merupakan Himpunan penulisan Dr Mohd Asri Bin Zainul
> Abidin yang terdahulu dica...
>
> Article taken from Minda Tajdid - http://drmaza.com/home
> URL to article: http://drmaza.com/home/?p=646
>
> 
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it is legally privileged and
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> whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
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> Views, opinions, conclusions or other information contained in this email
> not related to the business of Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad shall not be taken
> as reflective of or endorsed by it.
>
>
> >
>

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