Re: MaxPerRoute Clarification
Thanks for the clarification. On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 6:11 AM Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: > On Wed, 2020-07-08 at 14:49 -0400, Evan J wrote: > > I wanted to clarify whether *MaxPerRoute* is per IP, and not per URL. > > e.g. > > > > http://example.com/api/getData > > http://example.com/api/getFin > > http://example.com/route/notification > > http://otherhost.com/api/deposite > > > > The MaxPerRoute parameter is per host:port / proxy_host:proxy_port / > local_address combination (as represented by the HttpRoute class). > > > > Are the first three URLs considered as a single route, and therefore > > the > > MaxPerRoute is divided among two routes equally? Looking at HttpHost > > seems > > like this is true, and the first three URLs are considered a single > > route. > > > > Correct. > > > And if the first three URLs are considered as a single route, I > > suppose the > > framework provides the number of connections to whichever URL is > > requested > > for whatever number of times first, rather than treating them > > equally. > > > > Thanks. > > Yes, it is the case. > > Cheers > > Oleg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: httpclient-users-unsubscr...@hc.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: httpclient-users-h...@hc.apache.org > >
MaxPerRoute Clarification
I wanted to clarify whether *MaxPerRoute* is per IP, and not per URL. e.g. http://example.com/api/getData http://example.com/api/getFin http://example.com/route/notification http://otherhost.com/api/deposite Are the first three URLs considered as a single route, and therefore the MaxPerRoute is divided among two routes equally? Looking at HttpHost seems like this is true, and the first three URLs are considered a single route. And if the first three URLs are considered as a single route, I suppose the framework provides the number of connections to whichever URL is requested for whatever number of times first, rather than treating them equally. Thanks.
Re: SocketTimeoutExceptions When Communicating with a Load Balancer
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 9:33 AM Alexey Panchenko wrote: > Ah, it's actually much simpler than I thought. > ConnectTimeoutException wraps SocketTimeoutExceptions > but you use ExceptionUtils.getRootCause which retrieves the inner most > exception - which is SocketTimeoutException > > so > 1. logging or posting a full stackrace would make the reason obvious from > the beginning > 2.getRootCause() is not always the right thing to do > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 5:22 AM Evan J > wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 3:08 PM Alexey Panchenko < > alex.panche...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > I guess, It can depends on which level load balancer operates. > > > if load balancer is layer 4 (TCP) then for the operating system it > looks > > > like connection is made directly to the target application. In this > case > > > exception should happen during connect and be wrapped as > > > ConnectTimeoutException > > > but if load balancer is layer 7 (HTTP) then TCP connection is made to > the > > > load balancer (which possibly reads the whole request into memory) and > > then > > > it's trying to establish another TCP connection to the target > application > > > and forward request there. > > > While that happens, the client thinks that it already has sent the > > request > > > to the target application and is already waiting for a response. > > > In this situation SocketTimeoutException can happen. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 6:23 PM Evan J > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you for your response. > > > > > > > > I'm trying to understand your statement. Are you saying when > connection > > > > times out, SocketTimeoutException is thrown, and then the library > > > captures > > > > it and rethrows ConnectTimeoutException? > > > > > > > > Bottom line, first, is what I explained the expected behavior, and > > > second, > > > > how can we properly distinguish between these two types of timeouts? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 4:24 AM Oleg Kalnichevski > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2020-02-10 at 23:25 -0500, Evan J wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > (looks like I'd sent this to a wrong user group originally) > > > > > > > > > > > > We deploy an application B (which is basically a backend > > application > > > > > > serving a web application) to a cluster of application servers > > (JBoss > > > > > > EAP > > > > > > 7.2 -- 8 instances). These instances send HTTP requests to a set > of > > > > > > gateway > > > > > > applications, call them application Gs (10 instances), where the > > > > > > requests > > > > > > go through an F5 loadbalancer that sits between them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Instances of application B are Spring Boot applications (2.1.x) > > that > > > > > > have > > > > > > been configured with Apache HttpClient 4.5.5 and HttpCore 4.4.9. > > The > > > > > > configuration is almost identical to this github code: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/spring-framework-guru/sfg-blog-posts/tree/master/resttemplate/src/main/java/guru/springframework/resttemplate/config > > > > > > > > > > > > The only exception is that RestTemplateConfig#restTemplate() is > > > > > > configured > > > > > > by creation of RestTemplate and passing > > > > > > HttpComponentsClientHttpRequestFactory to its constructor rather > > than > > > > > > using > > > > > > Spring Boot's RestTemplateBuilder(). > > > > > > > > > > > > The keep alive configuration in application B is basically > defined > > > > > > something like: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/spring-framework-guru/sfg-blog-posts/blob/0152fb0c4acf08d019128ca38c3dd2523871c43c/resttemplate/src/main/java/guru/springframework/resttemplate/config/ApacheHttpClientConfig.java#L52 > > > > > > > >
Re: SocketTimeoutExceptions When Communicating with a Load Balancer
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 3:08 PM Alexey Panchenko
wrote:
> I guess, It can depends on which level load balancer operates.
> if load balancer is layer 4 (TCP) then for the operating system it looks
> like connection is made directly to the target application. In this case
> exception should happen during connect and be wrapped as
> ConnectTimeoutException
> but if load balancer is layer 7 (HTTP) then TCP connection is made to the
> load balancer (which possibly reads the whole request into memory) and then
> it's trying to establish another TCP connection to the target application
> and forward request there.
> While that happens, the client thinks that it already has sent the request
> to the target application and is already waiting for a response.
> In this situation SocketTimeoutException can happen.
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 6:23 PM Evan J
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for your response.
> >
> > I'm trying to understand your statement. Are you saying when connection
> > times out, SocketTimeoutException is thrown, and then the library
> captures
> > it and rethrows ConnectTimeoutException?
> >
> > Bottom line, first, is what I explained the expected behavior, and
> second,
> > how can we properly distinguish between these two types of timeouts?
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 4:24 AM Oleg Kalnichevski
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2020-02-10 at 23:25 -0500, Evan J wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > (looks like I'd sent this to a wrong user group originally)
> > > >
> > > > We deploy an application B (which is basically a backend application
> > > > serving a web application) to a cluster of application servers (JBoss
> > > > EAP
> > > > 7.2 -- 8 instances). These instances send HTTP requests to a set of
> > > > gateway
> > > > applications, call them application Gs (10 instances), where the
> > > > requests
> > > > go through an F5 loadbalancer that sits between them.
> > > >
> > > > Instances of application B are Spring Boot applications (2.1.x) that
> > > > have
> > > > been configured with Apache HttpClient 4.5.5 and HttpCore 4.4.9. The
> > > > configuration is almost identical to this github code:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/spring-framework-guru/sfg-blog-posts/tree/master/resttemplate/src/main/java/guru/springframework/resttemplate/config
> > > >
> > > > The only exception is that RestTemplateConfig#restTemplate() is
> > > > configured
> > > > by creation of RestTemplate and passing
> > > > HttpComponentsClientHttpRequestFactory to its constructor rather than
> > > > using
> > > > Spring Boot's RestTemplateBuilder().
> > > >
> > > > The keep alive configuration in application B is basically defined
> > > > something like:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/spring-framework-guru/sfg-blog-posts/blob/0152fb0c4acf08d019128ca38c3dd2523871c43c/resttemplate/src/main/java/guru/springframework/resttemplate/config/ApacheHttpClientConfig.java#L52
> > > >
> > > > When a load test is executed in a single stack environment where the
> > > > load
> > > > balancer is omitted (one application B -> one application G), the
> > > > requests
> > > > and responses are processed and validated accordingly (each request
> > > > should
> > > > correspond to a right response and be sent to the web application
> > > > front
> > > > end).
> > > >
> > > > However, when we run the same load test in a distributed environment
> > > > with a
> > > > load balancer between application B's and application G's, we see a
> > > > lot of
> > > > SocketTimeoutExceptions being logged, and we notice them very quickly
> > > > (about 5% of total of responses in application B throw that
> > > > exception).
> > > >
> > > > The code structure is very straightforward:
> > > >
> > > > try {
> > > > // RestTemplate call
> > > > } catch (RestClientException exception) {
> > > > Exception rootCause = ExceptionUtils.getRootCause(exception); //
> > > > Apache
> > > > Commons lib
> > > > if (rootCause != null) {
> > > > if
> > > > (SocketTimeoutException.getClass().getName().equals(rootCause.getClas
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Re: SocketTimeoutExceptions When Communicating with a Load Balancer
Thank you for your response.
I'm trying to understand your statement. Are you saying when connection
times out, SocketTimeoutException is thrown, and then the library captures
it and rethrows ConnectTimeoutException?
Bottom line, first, is what I explained the expected behavior, and second,
how can we properly distinguish between these two types of timeouts?
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 4:24 AM Oleg Kalnichevski wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-02-10 at 23:25 -0500, Evan J wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > (looks like I'd sent this to a wrong user group originally)
> >
> > We deploy an application B (which is basically a backend application
> > serving a web application) to a cluster of application servers (JBoss
> > EAP
> > 7.2 -- 8 instances). These instances send HTTP requests to a set of
> > gateway
> > applications, call them application Gs (10 instances), where the
> > requests
> > go through an F5 loadbalancer that sits between them.
> >
> > Instances of application B are Spring Boot applications (2.1.x) that
> > have
> > been configured with Apache HttpClient 4.5.5 and HttpCore 4.4.9. The
> > configuration is almost identical to this github code:
> >
> >
>
> https://github.com/spring-framework-guru/sfg-blog-posts/tree/master/resttemplate/src/main/java/guru/springframework/resttemplate/config
> >
> > The only exception is that RestTemplateConfig#restTemplate() is
> > configured
> > by creation of RestTemplate and passing
> > HttpComponentsClientHttpRequestFactory to its constructor rather than
> > using
> > Spring Boot's RestTemplateBuilder().
> >
> > The keep alive configuration in application B is basically defined
> > something like:
> >
> >
>
> https://github.com/spring-framework-guru/sfg-blog-posts/blob/0152fb0c4acf08d019128ca38c3dd2523871c43c/resttemplate/src/main/java/guru/springframework/resttemplate/config/ApacheHttpClientConfig.java#L52
> >
> > When a load test is executed in a single stack environment where the
> > load
> > balancer is omitted (one application B -> one application G), the
> > requests
> > and responses are processed and validated accordingly (each request
> > should
> > correspond to a right response and be sent to the web application
> > front
> > end).
> >
> > However, when we run the same load test in a distributed environment
> > with a
> > load balancer between application B's and application G's, we see a
> > lot of
> > SocketTimeoutExceptions being logged, and we notice them very quickly
> > (about 5% of total of responses in application B throw that
> > exception).
> >
> > The code structure is very straightforward:
> >
> > try {
> > // RestTemplate call
> > } catch (RestClientException exception) {
> > Exception rootCause = ExceptionUtils.getRootCause(exception); //
> > Apache
> > Commons lib
> > if (rootCause != null) {
> > if
> > (SocketTimeoutException.getClass().getName().equals(rootCause.getClas
> > s().getName())
> > {
> > // or even if (rootCause instanceof SocketTimeoutException) {
> > // Log for socket timeout
> > }
> > if
> > (ConnectTimeoutException.getClass().getName().equals(rootCause.getCla
> > ss().getName())
> > {
> > // or even if (rootCause instanceof ConnectTimeoutException ) {
> > // Log for connection timeout
> > }
> > }
> > }
> >
> > Application B's keep alive has been set to 20 seconds while the
> > socket
> > timeout has been set to 10 seconds by default (connection timeout to
> > 1
> > second).
> >
> > After placing timer to log how long it takes for an exception is
> > thrown, we
> > saw, the time that it took from the moment RestTemplate is invoked
> > till the
> > exception is thrown was slightly above 1 second, e.g. 1030 ms, 1045
> > ms,
> > 1020 ms, etc.. This led us to increase the connection timeouts from 1
> > second to 2 seconds, and afterward, we didn't get any timeout
> > exception of
> > any sort under the similar load.
> >
> > My question is, why is that the majority of exceptions that are being
> > thrown have SocketTimeoutExceptions type as opposed to
> > ConnectTimeoutExceptions which, based on the timeout adjustment
> > mentioned
> > above, appears to be the latter (Connect) vs. socket (read) timeout?
> > Note
> > that I said the majority of time, as I've seen a few
> > ConnectTimeoutExceptions as well, but almost 99% of the failed ones
> > are
> > SocketTimeoutExc
SocketTimeoutExceptions When Communicating with a Load Balancer
Hi,
(looks like I'd sent this to a wrong user group originally)
We deploy an application B (which is basically a backend application
serving a web application) to a cluster of application servers (JBoss EAP
7.2 -- 8 instances). These instances send HTTP requests to a set of gateway
applications, call them application Gs (10 instances), where the requests
go through an F5 loadbalancer that sits between them.
Instances of application B are Spring Boot applications (2.1.x) that have
been configured with Apache HttpClient 4.5.5 and HttpCore 4.4.9. The
configuration is almost identical to this github code:
https://github.com/spring-framework-guru/sfg-blog-posts/tree/master/resttemplate/src/main/java/guru/springframework/resttemplate/config
The only exception is that RestTemplateConfig#restTemplate() is configured
by creation of RestTemplate and passing
HttpComponentsClientHttpRequestFactory to its constructor rather than using
Spring Boot's RestTemplateBuilder().
The keep alive configuration in application B is basically defined
something like:
https://github.com/spring-framework-guru/sfg-blog-posts/blob/0152fb0c4acf08d019128ca38c3dd2523871c43c/resttemplate/src/main/java/guru/springframework/resttemplate/config/ApacheHttpClientConfig.java#L52
When a load test is executed in a single stack environment where the load
balancer is omitted (one application B -> one application G), the requests
and responses are processed and validated accordingly (each request should
correspond to a right response and be sent to the web application front
end).
However, when we run the same load test in a distributed environment with a
load balancer between application B's and application G's, we see a lot of
SocketTimeoutExceptions being logged, and we notice them very quickly
(about 5% of total of responses in application B throw that exception).
The code structure is very straightforward:
try {
// RestTemplate call
} catch (RestClientException exception) {
Exception rootCause = ExceptionUtils.getRootCause(exception); // Apache
Commons lib
if (rootCause != null) {
if
(SocketTimeoutException.getClass().getName().equals(rootCause.getClass().getName())
{
// or even if (rootCause instanceof SocketTimeoutException) {
// Log for socket timeout
}
if
(ConnectTimeoutException.getClass().getName().equals(rootCause.getClass().getName())
{
// or even if (rootCause instanceof ConnectTimeoutException ) {
// Log for connection timeout
}
}
}
Application B's keep alive has been set to 20 seconds while the socket
timeout has been set to 10 seconds by default (connection timeout to 1
second).
After placing timer to log how long it takes for an exception is thrown, we
saw, the time that it took from the moment RestTemplate is invoked till the
exception is thrown was slightly above 1 second, e.g. 1030 ms, 1045 ms,
1020 ms, etc.. This led us to increase the connection timeouts from 1
second to 2 seconds, and afterward, we didn't get any timeout exception of
any sort under the similar load.
My question is, why is that the majority of exceptions that are being
thrown have SocketTimeoutExceptions type as opposed to
ConnectTimeoutExceptions which, based on the timeout adjustment mentioned
above, appears to be the latter (Connect) vs. socket (read) timeout? Note
that I said the majority of time, as I've seen a few
ConnectTimeoutExceptions as well, but almost 99% of the failed ones are
SocketTimeoutExceptions.
Also, in our logs, we log the "rootCause's" class name to avoid ambiguity,
but as I mentioned, they are being logged as SocketTimeoutExceptions class
names.
What is Apache Components library doing under the hood that signals the
underlying JDK code to throw SocketTimeoutExceptions rather than
ConnectTimeoutException?
