[hugin-ptx] Re: Masking inside hugin

2010-02-18 Thread T. Modes
> That would be useful, but also the Hugin optimiser could ignore
> points in masked areas, and the photometric optimiser could be made
> to only sample from unmasked areas.

The photometric optimiser should only sample from unmasked area. As
far as I understood, I did the changes.
Regarding the optimiser it should be easy possible to remove cps in
masked areas.

> The phrases 'negative masking' and 'positive masking' - I'm probably
> responsible for these, but I worry that they won't mean much to new
> users, we should maybe look for something better:
>
>    Exclude region / Include region
>    Exclude area / Include area
>    Remove region / Add region
>    (not sure)
>

If there is a consense, it should be easy to change the phrases.

> I use Hugin over remote-X and showing photos in the Mask tab is
> several times slower than showing them in the Crop tab (like 20
> seconds for a 1:1 view) - Obviously remote-X isn't much of a
> concern, but I wonder if the canvas is being redrawn multiple times.
>

I will have a look on this in the next days.

> Masks can be drawn outside the photo border.  This is fine for
> 'negative' masks, as it makes it easier to select the right area,
> but for 'positive' masks it results in holes in the final image.

I could in the internal mask processing positive masks clip at the
image bounderies. But this would not show up in the mask editor.
Or I could force to clip the created mask. But I have no good idea at
which stage this could be done - maybe when switching to positive
mask. (Alternatively an additional button with clip to image, but this
approach I don't like, because there are enough buttons.)
What do you think?

Thomas

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[hugin-ptx] Hugin + Autopano-SIFT-C for Circular Fisheye

2010-02-18 Thread Wolfgang
Dear all and Bruno

 Last time I tried to use Hugin 2009.2.0.4461 on Windows XP with
AUTOPANO-SIFT-C to make the control points automatically for the
Landscape picture taken by a circular fisheye (8mm Sigma on 5D2) and
it failed.  Bruno told me that there was a bug on the autopano-sift-c
for this because the program would try to estimate the picture as the
one having more than 225 degree HFOV.

This time I tried portrait, and it failed again (generated 0
control point again).  Did anyone know how can it create control
points automatically on the circular fisheye?

Thanks
Wolfgang

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[hugin-ptx] Hugin on Launchpad?

2010-02-18 Thread Yili Zhao
Hi,
  I found that Hugin also has a position on Launchpad website,
any hint for it?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Masking inside hugin

2010-02-18 Thread Bruno Postle

On Mon 15-Feb-2010 at 22:34 -0800, Thomas Modes wrote:


Now you can create masks inside hugin, the masks are stored in the 
pto file. It is possible to use negative and positive masking. The 
masks are applied during stitching with nona. So also enblend can 
use them.


Some comments on the new mask functionality, though it is 
practically complete, I'm not sure anything really needs to be 
changed:


The phrases 'negative masking' and 'positive masking' - I'm probably 
responsible for these, but I worry that they won't mean much to new 
users, we should maybe look for something better:


  Exclude region / Include region
  Exclude area / Include area
  Remove region / Add region
  (not sure)

I use Hugin over remote-X and showing photos in the Mask tab is 
several times slower than showing them in the Crop tab (like 20 
seconds for a 1:1 view) - Obviously remote-X isn't much of a 
concern, but I wonder if the canvas is being redrawn multiple times.


Masks can be drawn outside the photo border.  This is fine for 
'negative' masks, as it makes it easier to select the right area, 
but for 'positive' masks it results in holes in the final image.


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[hugin-ptx] Building 2010.0 on Ubuntu 9.10

2010-02-18 Thread Jan Martin
Hi all,

it worked in a fresh installation of Ubuntu 9.10 in a VirtualBox virtual
machine, but on my main machine I get this error:

make package

...Linking CXX shared library libceleste.so
[ 41%] Built target celeste
Scanning dependencies of target celeste_standalone
[ 41%] Building CXX object
src/celeste/CMakeFiles/celeste_standalone.dir/Main.cpp.o
Linking CXX executable celeste_standalone
../hugin_base/libhuginbase.so.0.0: undefined reference to `queryFOVLimits'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [src/celeste/celeste_standalone] Error 1
make[1]: *** [src/celeste/CMakeFiles/celeste_standalone.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2
m...@ubuntu:~/.local/share/Trash/files/hugin-build/hugin-build$


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GSoC this year

2010-02-18 Thread Bruno Postle

On Thu 11-Feb-2010 at 20:24 -0800, Yuv wrote:


I'm happy to see James and Tim on board. Now you need a volunteer for
the admin stuff.


I can admin this year, actually this suits me rather than doing the 
'mentor' thing.  I'll need help with wiki pages and the applications 
process which was overwhelming last year.


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RE: [hugin-ptx] linear panoramas with distortion - help needed

2010-02-18 Thread Dale Beams

I'd correct your camera problem first.  Using a tripod with a sliding arm back 
and forth on the bottom is where I'd start.  This would set the photos at the 
same level and help control your yaw/pitch etc.

An example of a sliding bar/arm is what we use in stereographic images.  You 
should be able to build something quite simple from your local hardware store.

Dale

> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:56:04 +
> From: doug_bainbri...@onetel.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [hugin-ptx] linear panoramas with distortion - help needed
> 
> As a relative newbie I'd be grateful for your expert advice.
> 
> I'm trying to get records from images of old manuscripts on a microfilm 
> viewer.
> The viewer has no download or print facility, so the  image projected on 
> the viewer screen has to be photographed.
> In order to get sufficient definition to read the difficult handwriting, 
> I have to zoom in; and that means taking 3 - 4 photos for each record, 
> shifting the film along to bring left, centre and right of the record in 
> turn to the centre of the screen. The photos are hand-held, at an 
> awkward angle in a confined space; and the illumination of the screen 
> falls off towards the edges.
> 
> So my problem is a set of 3 photos forming a linear panorama, each image 
> with substantial perspective distortion, with varying amounts of yaw, 
> pitch and roll between them. Although I can get an acceptable final 
> result with Gimp, it takes quite a bit of fiddling: I don't welcome the 
> prospect of tackling a whole series of such sets.
> I've tried to follow the linear panoramas tutorial in Hugin but get only 
> wildly distorted results, so what would be the best way of tackling this 
> with hugin?
> 
> 
> Doug
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[hugin-ptx] hugin 10.01 - feedback

2010-02-18 Thread Erik Krause

Hello!

Thanks to Zoran I can test one of the most recent versions of hugin! The 
new masking feature is really, really great! A minor glitch: If I press 
"Add new Mask" nothing seems to happen, there is no hint that I can 
start setting points in the image.


The Fast Preview has improved much. Version 09.4 allowed for the 
manipulation of the whole pano only, now individual images can be 
dragged and rotated. However, I didn't find a possibility to drag the 
whole panorama in 10.1 Good that "Numerical Transform" isn't a modal 
dialog any more.


The Fast Preview Crop editor is very good. However, sometimes when I 
move a cropped side back and release the mouse button outside the image 
editing area, the crop still sticks to the mouse as if the button wasn't 
released.


The source image crop editor works nicely too, however, I can't fully 
understand the "Always center Crop on d,e" option, which is on by 
default and doesn't allow me to drag the crop. Shouldn't it be the other 
way round? No matter whether I crop scanned images or a circular 
fisheye, in both cases the shift parameters d and e should follow the 
crop center, not limit the cropping. I know the intention of "Always 
center Crop on d,e" was to allow for a quick symmetrical crop. However, 
it should not disallow to drag the crop but offer the option to set d 
and e to the crop center.


Most other points I wrote in http://old.nabble.com/-ts26248583.html 
still apply, especially the behavior of the Straighten button.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] linear panoramas with distortion - help needed

2010-02-18 Thread Bruno Postle

On Thu 18-Feb-2010 at 15:56 +, Doug wrote:


So my problem is a set of 3 photos forming a linear panorama, each 
image with substantial perspective distortion, with varying amounts 
of yaw, pitch and roll between them. Although I can get an acceptable 
final result with Gimp, it takes quite a bit of fiddling: I don't 
welcome the prospect of tackling a whole series of such sets.


You could try the mosaic mode in a recent Hugin development build, 
but this is still experimental.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Masking inside hugin

2010-02-18 Thread Bruno Postle

On Wed 17-Feb-2010 at 17:34 -0800, Zoran Zorkic wrote:


It would also be great if some CP generators made use of masking.


That would be useful, but also the Hugin optimiser could ignore 
points in masked areas, and the photometric optimiser could be made 
to only sample from unmasked areas.


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Win32 Hugin 2010.1 svn4987 for download

2010-02-18 Thread Didgeridoohan
Thank you very much! It works great and has a lot of nice new things
since 2009.4... I particularly enjoy the new masking feature.

This is very appreciated for those of us who has not had the time,
energy or know-how to build our own windows version.

Again: thanks.

On Feb 18, 6:13 pm, Zoran Zorkic  wrote:
> Hi!
> Decided to pitch in my Win32 builds so people can test it out. The
> archive also contains APSC control point generator. They also have
> Enblend 4.0-6e6f573e57be, but you can just copy over an Enbled version
> to your liking.
>
> It's rar files you can just extract to a folder (you can name the
> folder Hugin.4987, for easy recognition), and make shortcuts
> (Hugin.exe is in the /bin/ folder). That way you can have multiple
> builds of Hugin in the system.
>
> You can also just copy them over you current Hugin installation, it
> should just work.
>
> Bear in mind that while you can have multiple copies of Hugin, they
> all share the same settings.
>
> The address:http://lemur.dreamhosters.com/hugin/
>
> I'll be putting up new builds as they come out.
>
> Hope it helps.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: What is hugin's best fit?

2010-02-18 Thread John McAllister
A lens profile should be created in fairly well controlled circumstances, don't 
worry too much for now.
85mm is within the ballpark for a lens of your type, there is plenty of margin 
for error if you are working outside.
Note that optimisation preceeds stitching, and can be repeated after cleaning 
up the CPs.
Remember my suggestion to cull rogue points under the CP tab, add some new ones 
if they are getting thin.
This process might provide some insight into why you are getting poor 
optimisation; see where they are falling within the image overlap.
Don't worry about so-called bubble distortion; it is essentially a generic 
characteristic of all wide lenses, and Huggy copes.

Keep trying... it will all come together.

John

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[hugin-ptx] Win32 Hugin 2010.1 svn4987 for download

2010-02-18 Thread Zoran Zorkic
Hi!
Decided to pitch in my Win32 builds so people can test it out. The
archive also contains APSC control point generator. They also have
Enblend 4.0-6e6f573e57be, but you can just copy over an Enbled version
to your liking.

It's rar files you can just extract to a folder (you can name the
folder Hugin.4987, for easy recognition), and make shortcuts
(Hugin.exe is in the /bin/ folder). That way you can have multiple
builds of Hugin in the system.

You can also just copy them over you current Hugin installation, it
should just work.

Bear in mind that while you can have multiple copies of Hugin, they
all share the same settings.

The address: http://lemur.dreamhosters.com/hugin/

I'll be putting up new builds as they come out.

Hope it helps.

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[hugin-ptx] linear panoramas with distortion - help needed

2010-02-18 Thread Doug

As a relative newbie I'd be grateful for your expert advice.

I'm trying to get records from images of old manuscripts on a microfilm 
viewer.
The viewer has no download or print facility, so the  image projected on 
the viewer screen has to be photographed.
In order to get sufficient definition to read the difficult handwriting, 
I have to zoom in; and that means taking 3 - 4 photos for each record, 
shifting the film along to bring left, centre and right of the record in 
turn to the centre of the screen. The photos are hand-held, at an 
awkward angle in a confined space; and the illumination of the screen 
falls off towards the edges.


So my problem is a set of 3 photos forming a linear panorama, each image 
with substantial perspective distortion, with varying amounts of yaw, 
pitch and roll between them. Although I can get an acceptable final 
result with Gimp, it takes quite a bit of fiddling: I don't welcome the 
prospect of tackling a whole series of such sets.
I've tried to follow the linear panoramas tutorial in Hugin but get only 
wildly distorted results, so what would be the best way of tackling this 
with hugin?



Doug

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Re: [hugin-ptx] [OSX] A Hugin 2010.1.0 svn4984 bundle with Thomas Modes Mask Editor and Pablo's patent free CPdetector included

2010-02-18 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Carl von Einem  wrote:

> You have to set it upin the Preferences window:

  Many thanks.

  Steve

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[hugin-ptx] Re: HDR Remapping in NONA results in loss of dynamic range?

2010-02-18 Thread T. Modes
> > > It should work, if you set the Camera response type to linear.
> > > (Lens tab, photometric sub tab).
>
> > OK, that did the trick for me. Somewhat hidden option.
> > Now my panorama is pure perfection :-D
>

I commited a bug fix to trunk and 2010.0 branch (rev 4989 and 4991).
When loading a HDR image it should now set the response type automatic
to linear.

Thomas

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[hugin-ptx] Hugin + Autopano-SIFT-C for Circular Fisheye

2010-02-18 Thread Wolfgang Lin
Dear all and Bruno

 Last time I tried to use Hugin 2009.2.0.4461 on Windows XP with
AUTOPANO-SIFT-C to make the control points automatically for the Landscape
picture taken by a circular fisheye (8mm Sigma on 5D2) and it failed.  Bruno
told me that there was a bug on the autopano-sift-c for this because the
program would try to estimate the picture as the one have more than 225
degree HFOV.  This time I tried portrait, and it failed again (generate 0
control point again).  Did anyone know how can it create control points
automatically on the circular fisheye?

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