[hugin-ptx] About fulla's TCA correction
Hi, I have been fiddling around with fulla's TCA correction, and I have some questions about it. The available documentation unfortunately seems to be a bit unclear, I am afraid. (1) It is stated that the R and B correction factors are applied 'on top' of the mean (==green) correction. Does this mean the effective correction function is a composition, or are the coefficients added to each other? I *think* fulla applies a composite function (which also seems more logical), but I am not sure. (2) If the correction is a composition, in what order are the corrections applied? I would gather that (viewing the whole transformation in the direction distorted-corrected) TCA correction would have to be applied 'before' the geometric correction, since only this would enable tca_correct to find the correct coefficients in a distorted image. (3) I noticed that fulla seems to scale the whole image even if I only apply R/B parameters. I would think the purpose is to avoid purple or green fringes on the image border (if/when the red or blue image parts become smaller than the rest). So does the transformation thus looks like this: DISTORTED-TCA-Scaling(1)-PTLens-Scaling(2)-CORRECTED or even DISTORTED-TCA(R)-Scaling(1)-TCA(B)-Scaling(2)-PTLens- Scaling(3)-CORRECTED? But: wouldn't this mean that one has to determine the geometric parameters in hugin on the TCA corrected image? Or does fulla's transformation queue rather look like this: DISTORTED-TCA-PTLens- Scaling-CORRECTED (this would probably be more efficient anyway)? The second choice would mean that the PTLens correction always 'sees' the unscaled image version (i.e., unchanged in the green subimage), thus meaning that I have to determine the PTLens coefficients in Hugin on the untouched image, before applying TCA compensation. Regards, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Masking inside hugin
Is it available now or have to wait. If available ? than from where i can download? I am really stuck with Black mask errors and cant generate final files. Masking my images manually is surely going to help a lot. Is there any need of feather addition in masks? On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Bruno Postle brunopos...@googlemail.comwrote: On 19 February 2010 06:48, T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de wrote: I could in the internal mask processing positive masks clip at the image bounderies. But this would not show up in the mask editor. I think that would be fine. It is useful to be able to draw part of the mask outside the edge of the photo, but this 'outside' part of the region can only do bad things in the 'positive mask' situation. -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comhugin-ptx%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- _ Emaad www.flickr.com/emaad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Masking inside hugin
On 22 February 2010 11:32, Emad ud din Butt xyzt...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any need of feather addition in masks? This isn't really how it works, you can't use the mask tool for compositing or placing a foreground object on different background. For this you need an image editor. Enblend can and does use any part of an image overlap to place a seam, by excluding an area using a mask you are telling enblend to exclude that region from consideration both when placing the seam and when blending. The result is that you can remove a person or object only if some other photo shows the same part of the scene without that object. When you 'include' an object with a mask the opposite happens, this simply removes that part of the scene from all other photos, enblend then has no choice but to use the region in the photo you selected. Cristian Marchi has posted a nice tutorial showing the 'positive' (include region) masking: http://www.flickr.com/groups/hugin/discuss/72157623472700076/ -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] windows + cyrillic = still no fun
Hi, The latest Windows build available to download reportedly still doesn't work with folders containing cyrillic characters. Does anybody want to be plugged to Audacity developers to find out how it was fixed there? Alexandre -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] win build not working anyway
Hi, The user renamed the cyrillic folder, and still no fun with hugin :-/ C:\Program\ Files\Hugin\bin\nona -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i 0 C:\DOCUME~1\Maria\LOCALS~1\Temp\hug196.tmp C:\Program\ Files\Hugin\bin\nona -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i 1 C:\DOCUME~1\Maria\LOCALS~1\Temp\hug196.tmp C:\Program\ Files\Hugin\bin\nona -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i 2 C:\DOCUME~1\Maria\LOCALS~1\Temp\hug196.tmp C:\Program\ Files\Hugin\bin\nona -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i 3 C:\DOCUME~1\Maria\LOCALS~1\Temp\hug196.tmp C:\Program\ Files\Hugin\bin\nona -z PACKBITS -r ldr -m TIFF_m -o 1 -i 4 C:\DOCUME~1\Maria\LOCALS~1\Temp\hug196.tmp C:\Program\ Files\Hugin\bin\enblend --compression NONE - f9556x2029+87+222 -o 1.tif 1.tif 10001.tif 10002.tif 10003.tif 10004.tif process_begin: CreateProcess(C:\Program Files\Hugin\bin\enblend.exe, C:\Program Files\Hugin\bin\enblend --compression NONE - f9556x2029+87+222 -o 1.tif 1.tif 10001.tif 10002.tif 10003.tif 10004.tif, ...) failed. make (e=14001): Error 14001make: *** [1.tif] Error 14001 Any clues? Alexandre -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] win build not working anyway
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:06:22 -0800 (PST), prokoudine wrote: user renamed the cyrillic folder, and still no fun with hugin :-/ What version precisely is that? Have you tried the newer 2010 builds? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: win build not working anyway
On Feb 22, 9:39 pm, Zoran Zorkic zo...@gmx.net wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:06:22 -0800 (PST), prokoudine wrote: user renamed the cyrillic folder, and still no fun with hugin :-/ What version precisely is that? 2009.4, I mentioned it in the previous mail :) Have you tried the newer 2010 builds? And it isn't about *me* :) Alexandre -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: win build not working anyway
On Feb 22, 9:39 pm, Zoran Zorkic zo...@gmx.net wrote: Have you tried the newer 2010 builds? http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/ doesn't list anything newer that 2009.4, no? Alexandre -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] problem compiling code
Hi I'm trying to compile alien_image_stack (revision 5009) on Ubuntu linux Jaunty. I get the following error: /home/tim/hugin/hugin/src/hugin_base/panodata/PanoramaOptions.cpp: In member function ‘void HuginBase::PanoramaOptions::setProjectionParameters(const std::vectordouble, std::allocatordouble )’: /home/tim/hugin/hugin/src/hugin_base/panodata/PanoramaOptions.cpp:216: error: ‘queryFOVLimits’ was not declared in this scope /home/tim/hugin/hugin/src/hugin_base/panodata/PanoramaOptions.cpp: In member function ‘void HuginBase::PanoramaOptions::resetProjectionParameters()’: /home/tim/hugin/hugin/src/hugin_base/panodata/PanoramaOptions.cpp:229: error: ‘struct pano_projection_parameter’ has no member named ‘defValue’ make[2]: *** [src/hugin_base/CMakeFiles/huginbase.dir/panodata/ PanoramaOptions.cpp.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [src/hugin_base/CMakeFiles/huginbase.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 I have installed libpano13-bin and libpano13-dev using sudo apt- get.install. Would these versions be too old? If so how can I get newer versions that will work. Thanks, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] problem compiling code
No wonder you run into problems: you should try align_image_stack instead of trying to stack images of aliens! ;-) SCNR, Carl Tim schrieb am 22.02.10 19:20: Hi I'm trying to compile alien_image_stack (revision 5009) on Ubuntu linux Jaunty. I get the following error: [...] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] problem compiling code
... On 22 Feb 2010, at 19:22, Carl von Einem c...@einem.net wrote: No wonder you run into problems: you should try align_image_stack instead of trying to stack images of aliens! ;-) What/how does align_image_stack do ? Cheers Mick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] problem compiling code
http://wiki.panotools.org/Align_image_stack (if you use Firefox or Camino you can add the Panotools wiki to your list of search engines while you visit wiki.panotools.org, works great e.g. as a glossary) Apart from hugin, some of the Enfuse GUIs also use align_image_stack, see http://wiki.panotools.org/Enfuse#GUIs And here is an example for inverse alien_image_stack http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Space_Invaders_style.png 4 stacks / 1 score / 1 strange camera (2 spare ones hidden) :-) Michael Crane schrieb am 22.02.10 20:55: ... On 22 Feb 2010, at 19:22, Carl von Einem c...@einem.net wrote: No wonder you run into problems: you should try align_image_stack instead of trying to stack images of aliens! ;-) What/how does align_image_stack do ? Cheers Mick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: problem compiling code
Unfortunate typo there. I did mean align_image_stack. Any idea how I could get it to work? On 22 Feb, 19:22, Carl von Einem c...@einem.net wrote: No wonder you run into problems: you should try align_image_stack instead of trying to stack images of aliens! ;-) SCNR, Carl Tim schrieb am 22.02.10 19:20: Hi I'm trying to compile alien_image_stack (revision 5009) on Ubuntu linux Jaunty. I get the following error: [...] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] win build not working anyway
On Mon 22-Feb-2010 at 10:06 -0800, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: C:\Program Files\Hugin\bin\enblend --compression NONE - f9556x2029+87+222 -o 1.tif 1.tif 10001.tif 10002.tif 10003.tif 10004.tif, ...) failed. make (e=14001): Error 14001make: *** [1.tif] Error 14001 This appears to be because this enblend.exe requires the visual C runtime and it isn't installed. There are a whole lot of identical bug reports in the Hugin tracker. It would be useful if you could confirm or not that this is the right solution, since I get get any response from the people who file these reports. -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] problem compiling code
On Mon 22-Feb-2010 at 10:20 -0800, Tim wrote: Hi I'm trying to compile alien_image_stack (revision 5009) on Ubuntu linux Jaunty. I get the following error: error: ‘struct pano_projection_parameter’ has no member named ‘defValue’ I have installed libpano13-bin and libpano13-dev using sudo apt- get.install. Would these versions be too old? If so how can I get newer versions that will work. To build the current Hugin trunk you need the libpano13-2.9.17_beta1 snapshot from http://panotools.sourceforge.net/ The current stable Hugin 2009.4.0 and the upcoming 2010.0.0 branch can both be built with the current stable libpano13-2.9.14 -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: problem compiling code
On 22 Feb, 21:17, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: On Mon 22-Feb-2010 at 10:20 -0800, Tim wrote: Hi I'm trying to compile alien_image_stack (revision 5009) on Ubuntu linux Jaunty. I get the following error: error: ‘struct pano_projection_parameter’ has no member named ‘defValue’ I have installed libpano13-bin and libpano13-dev using sudo apt- get.install. Would these versions be too old? If so how can I get newer versions that will work. To build the current Hugin trunk you need the libpano13-2.9.17_beta1 snapshot fromhttp://panotools.sourceforge.net/ The current stable Hugin 2009.4.0 and the upcoming 2010.0.0 branch can both be built with the current stable libpano13-2.9.14 -- Bruno Thanks. I managed to find the precompiled Ubuntu package and have used that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] About fulla's TCA correction
On Mon 22-Feb-2010 at 00:27 -0800, Robert wrote: The second choice would mean that the PTLens correction always 'sees' the unscaled image version (i.e., unchanged in the green subimage), thus meaning that I have to determine the PTLens coefficients in Hugin on the untouched image, before applying TCA compensation. Sorry I can't help with the detail, fulla is mainly useful as the only way we have to correct tca. Correcting barrel distortion is better done when stitching with nona as this doesn't lose corner pixels, and we also have better ways of correcting photometric variables. fulla has two tca options: one rescales the photo to the size of the smallest channel and the other leaves edges with incomplete channels. Unfortunately the first one changes the field of view of the photo and the second one introduces pixels with unusable colours - Ideally these areas where there is no coverage by all channels would be made 100% transparent and/or the same functionality could be added to nona and we could discard fulla. -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Panos greater than 360 degrees?
Do two images (left side, right side), and then join them with photoshop. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:43 PM, icysubdweller rosyrobo...@inwa.net wrote: Is it possible to create panos greater than 360 degrees? I shot a 360-degree pano that was 12 images of 30-degrees each. At first, I had stitched the image using twelve images: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and there were control points between all the images pairwise, including from 12 back to 1 again. This looked as expected. But then I decided I wanted some extra on the ends, so viewers could visualize the connectedness of the ends of the image better. I tried adding a 13th image to my pano... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 1 again. I put control points between the images pairwise as listed, and got rid of all control points from 12 to the original 1 at the left end. But when I align it, hugin seems to figure out that the two 1 images are the same, and it overlaps them. What I really want is an image that spans 390 degrees with image 1 repeated at both ends. Is there a way to do this? Thanks, Rodney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- --dmg --- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
