Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GSOC - Patent free control point generator project - Vetting Exercise

2010-04-08 Thread Antoine Deleforge
Thanks again for your help ;-)

I attached my patch to this e-mail. It only concerns the panomatic-lib
directory. Note that I wrote it on the Pablo's variation of the lib that I
got by bzr branch lp:~pablo.dangelo/hugin/panomatic-lib. Therefore the patch
also include the correction of a bug in CMakeLists.txt.

Waiting for your feedbacks!

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:39 PM, T. Modes  wrote:

> > then your friend is "hg diff" instead of "svn diff". or more generally,
> if you
> > made changes against any folder structure that is not under version
> control,
> > "diff".
> >
>
> panomaticlib is in a bazaar repository. Also "bzr diff" (to make the
> confusion complete ;-)
>
> Thomas
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Photometric optimization aborted

2010-04-08 Thread John McAllister
Hi Ryan...

It shouldn't fail because it wasn't necessary.
There is more to the issue.

Yeh, I just guessed, too many people make work for nothing.

Best regards, John

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Photometric optimization aborted

2010-04-08 Thread Ryan
On Apr 7, 10:49 pm, "John McAllister"  wrote:
> Why are you trying to exposure optimise a scene series that probably doesn't 
> need it?

Well, in the preview window it looked like it *did* need it, but the
stitched result actually does look fine as you predict. This leaves
some questions, though:

1. Does something (enblend?) tweak exposure settings even without
exposure optimization?
2. Is that error message an über-cryptic way of saying "this step is
unnecessary for this scene" or did you just guess from my description
of the input?
3. Even if the photometrics did start out perfect, shouldn't
optimization just suggest minuscule adjustments instead of blowing up?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Compiling Hugin on Windows problems / Improving the Panowiki article

2010-04-08 Thread T. Modes
Hi Dezen,

Hugin compiles fine on windows. (VS2008, CMake 2.8.0)

If you are not so experienced with compiling (as I assume from your
questions), it's the best to start with the SDK.

You cited an older version of the SDK. Follow the link on
http://wiki.panotools.org/Build_Hugin_for_Windows_with_SDK and take
this version (last version from 09.05.2009). The SDK is built with
Visual Studio 2008. So for building with the SDK you will need VS2008
(building all lib by hand as described at 
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_SDK_%28MSVC_2008%29
is much work and requires some experience with compiling. The result
is the same as using the SDK, so both ways are the same)

For compiling new versions there are 2 things to change:
1.) You will need the additional glut lib. You can find a precompiled
list here on the list 
http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/53c124802b27c84e
2.) You need to update libpano13 to current version (subversion
version or latest beta version) and to compile it

(Don't try to compile enblend-enfuse at this stage. Use the official
version from sf site. Enblend-enfuse requires more libs to compile.)

Thomas

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosaic drag mode + keeping Tr parameters consistency on roll patch (vetting exercise)

2010-04-08 Thread Bruno Postle

On Thu 08-Apr-2010 at 00:19 +0100, Bruno Postle wrote:

On Thu 08-Apr-2010 at 00:15 +0200, Darko Makreshanski wrote:


Here is the patch that I have proposed earlier.


Thanks, it builds here (centos4 Linux) but I get a segfault when I 
open the fast preview window.  It may be a local problem, I'll try 
again with a clean tree tomorrow.


With a clean build it is now fine.

Using a project with lots of XYZ shifts that would normally get 
scrambled in Drag mode:  If I select 'mosaic' in Drag mode then 
left-mouse moves the photos around, and right-mouse rotates around 
the centre as expected.


Well done, this is a very useful patch.

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[hugin-ptx] Compiling Hugin on Windows problems / Improving the Panowiki article

2010-04-08 Thread Dezen
Hello everybody,
I could not manage to compile Hugin on Windows XP Pro SP2 32 bit.
Using:

MS Visual Studio 2005
CMake 2.8
gettext package
boost 1.4.2
ilmbase 1.0.1
libpano 13-2.9.14
openexr-1.6.1
wxWidgets 2.8.10

Followed all the instructions from: 
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Windows
Building wxWidgets and boost were succesful.
Still following problems ocurred:

1.
cmakesetup configuration error: "wxWidgets not found"
the same error as described here:
http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/da632715d320324c/52c95cdd585ef6e9?lnk=gst&q=compiling+win#

the solution was to use cmake 2.6.3, I am using cmake 2.8, any
suggestions?

Working with the HuginSDK resulted in the same error.
http://hugin.panotools.org/sdk/MSVC/hugin_enblend_sdk_msvc2008_v2.7z

Question: is the HuginSDK suitable for buidling newer Hugin releases
at all?

2.
Building OpenEXR ended in lots of errors. I have opened the .sln file
in Visual Studio and tried to compile.
Compiling IlmBase results: (excuse the german expresssions, please)

Fehler  18  error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender
Quelle zurückgegeben: "Running Iex unit tests..."   IexTest
Fehler  92  error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender
Quelle zurückgegeben: "Running HalfTest unit tests..."  HalfTest
Fehler  218 error PRJ0019: Ein Tool hat einen Fehlercode aus folgender
Quelle zurückgegeben: "Running Imath unit tests..." ImathTest

Compiling openexr results, these are some of the 49 errors:  (excuse
the german expresssions, please)

Fehler  1   fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht geöffnet
werden: "zlib.h": No such file or directory c:\Dokumente und
Einstellungen\Administrator\Desktop\pano\hugin_builds\hugin_sdk
\openexr-1.6.1\IlmImf\ImfZipCompressor.cpp  45
Fehler  58  fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht geöffnet
werden: "zlib.h": No such file or directory c:\Dokumente und
Einstellungen\Administrator\Desktop\pano\hugin_builds\hugin_sdk
\openexr-1.6.1\IlmImf\ImfPxr24Compressor.cpp73
Fehler  138 fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht geöffnet
werden: "ImfInputFile.h": No such file or directory c:\Dokumente und
Einstellungen\Administrator\Desktop\pano\hugin_builds\hugin_sdk
\openexr-1.6.1\exrheader\main.cpp   43
Fehler  139 fatal error C1083: Datei (Include) kann nicht geöffnet
werden: "ImfInputFile.h": No such file or directory c:\Dokumente und
Einstellungen\Administrator\Desktop\pano\hugin_builds\hugin_sdk
\openexr-1.6.1\exrmakepreview\makePreview.cpp   45
.


My main problem is I have no idea what is meant in the description:

http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Windows#Building_OpenEXR

For all projects do:

* set each project to static lib
* remove OPENEXR_DLL, _USEDLL and *_EXPORTS defines
* set runtime to MT
* disable SSE2, to generate binaries that run on all platforms
* remove the createDLL part of the post-build command, but keep
the call to install*.cmd, such as ..\..\..\installIlmImf.cmd $
(IntDir)
---
How do I set everything in Visual Studio?

Besides that the instructions are quite contradictory,
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Windows
http://wiki.panotools.org/Build_Hugin_for_Windows_with_SDK

I see a lot of place for improvements in both articles, I would like
to contribute to them, if I ever manage to build Hugin on my own :-)

Thanks for any suggestions in advance

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Funky test result

2010-04-08 Thread ORFrankOR
I figured out what I did wrong when I took up the process again: my
lens focal length input was wrong. I noticed the the FOV for each
section of the image had a different value, even though I put in the
same focal length - that's what caused the misalignment and warping of
the edges.

It's actually surprising to me that Hugin did such a good job on the
major part of the image itself, the important part, and only had
trouble with the edges.

Frank

On Apr 7, 4:42 pm, ORFrankOR  wrote:
> I'd been having trouble with v 2009, so I downloaded and installed v
> 2010 and ran it on an existing image that I divided into two parts.
> The result, while OK in the image area, shows misalignment of the
> border frame and distortion of the edges and edge and corner toning
> that resembles vignetting.
>
> I can make images available for anyone to examine.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Panorama Makefile (GSOC project)

2010-04-08 Thread Flo
Thanks for your infos, Yuv.
So if you guys like it, I'll leave the proposal as it is. Deadline is
coming soon.

To allow replacement of make in the future, I'll take it as guideline
to limit dependencies on make
in the parts that don't need it (stitching logic ..).

Flo

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[hugin-ptx] Zooming for fast preview proposal

2010-04-08 Thread Darko Makreshanski

Hi,

I wrote the additional proposal for the zooming for the fast preview 
idea on the wiki.


Its available at:

   pdf:http://wiki.panotools.org/File:Proposal-zooming.pdf
   wiki:   
http://wiki.panotools.org/User:Dmakreshanski/GSOC-zooming-proposal
   google:   
http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/student_proposal/show/google/gsoc2010/dmakreshanski/t127074117189



I have also added all the links at the student proposal page

Best,
Darko

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RE: [hugin-ptx] Stitching blurred images

2010-04-08 Thread Dale Beams

Consider another pano stitcher.  I too have had issues with blurred images 
sometimes one in the center of the whole batch.


I found that Autostitch or Autopano Pro are able to handle these.



Dale






Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:28:48 -0400
Subject: [hugin-ptx] Stitching blurred images
From: nicolas.pellet...@gmail.com
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

Hi,
I've run into a situation that I cannot stitch automatically with hugin and 
would like any input you guys have.
Basically, I have a pano made of multiple images with a macro lens, shot a wide 
aperture (100mm macro at 2.8 with a focusing distance inside the macro range).

I have multiple images in the range that are sharp, therefore stitch perfectly.
I have many others that are out of focus and are only blurred transitions. 
These don't have anything sharp, but do have different "spots" i.e. not a 
single blurred flat color.

Those images don't get control points properly.
I have tried panomatic and autopanosiftc with different sized images, but 
nothing yet.
What I'd like to achieve: get all the sharp images perfectly aligned, get all 
the blurred images somewhat aligned. Since they are that blurred, bad alignment 
would not be a problem, enblend would make a nice result. No alignment at all 
would mean manual work which I would like to avoid; keep the whole process 
automated.

Any input welcomed! Thanks
nick
PS, for panomatic, there are some sieve parameters... I thought they might 
help, but can't figure out how they work.



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[hugin-ptx] Re: GSOC - Patent free control point generator project - Vetting Exercise

2010-04-08 Thread T. Modes
> then your friend is "hg diff" instead of "svn diff". or more generally, if you
> made changes against any folder structure that is not under version control,
> "diff".
>

panomaticlib is in a bazaar repository. Also "bzr diff" (to make the
confusion complete ;-)

Thomas

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Stitching blurred images

2010-04-08 Thread Yuval Levy
another thing that may help along the same line of exchanging image sets prior 
to stitching: run all the images through some really extreme sharpening / 
unsharp mask filter, or whatever other filter that produces predictable 
results with distinguishable features out of the blur. run the CP generator 
against the filtered images. substitute before stitching.

Yuv

On April 8, 2010 05:01:31 am Carl von Einem wrote:
> How about shooting the same set twice? Let's assume your light meter
> shows 1/500sec @ f2.8, so for each frame a second exposure could be shot
> with 1/15sec @ f16. Maybe this is doable with a bracketing setting,
> otherwise I'd try tethered shooting. My macro lens even allows to be
> stopped down to f32. The stopped down set should align a lot better,
> just exchange the image sets prior to stitching.
> 
> Carl
> 
> Nicolas Pelletier schrieb am 08.04.10 03:28:
> > Basically, I have a pano made of multiple images with a macro lens, shot
> > a wide aperture (100mm macro at 2.8 with a focusing distance inside the
> > macro range).
> >
> > I have multiple images in the range that are sharp, therefore stitch
> > perfectly.
> > I have many others that are out of focus and are only blurred
> > transitions. These don't have anything sharp, but do have different
> > "spots" i.e. not a single blurred flat color.
> > Those images don't get control points properly.
> >
> > I have tried panomatic and autopanosiftc with different sized images,
> > but nothing yet.
> >
> > What I'd like to achieve: get all the sharp images perfectly aligned,
> > get all the blurred images somewhat aligned. Since they are that
> > blurred, bad alignment would not be a problem, enblend would make a nice
> > result. No alignment at all would mean manual work which I would like to
> > avoid; keep the whole process automated.
> >
> > PS, for panomatic, there are some sieve parameters... I thought they
> > might help, but can't figure out how they work.
> 
> Sorry, no idea about this. Panomatic is not too well documented as it
>  seems.
> 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GSOC - Patent free control point generator project - Vetting Exercise

2010-04-08 Thread Yuval Levy
On April 8, 2010 02:33:53 am Antoine Deleforge wrote:
> Concerning the patch: the problem is that I only modified files in
> /panomtic-lib/panomatic/. I'm not sure that it is linked to any subversion
> directory, is it?

then your friend is "hg diff" instead of "svn diff". or more generally, if you 
made changes against any folder structure that is not under version control, 
"diff".

the following three commands should give you the details for the three 
particular situations:

svn help diff
hg help diff
man diff

Yuv

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Funky test result

2010-04-08 Thread Bruno Postle
On 7 April 2010 23:42, ORFrankOR  wrote:
> I'd been having trouble with v 2009, so I downloaded and installed v
> 2010 and ran it on an existing image that I divided into two parts.
> The result, while OK in the image area, shows misalignment of the
> border frame and distortion of the edges and edge and corner toning
> that resembles vignetting.

Cropping a rectangle from a photo gives you a 'shifted' image, i.e.
this isn't a 'normal' photo, Hugin can stitch it but it isn't a good
way to test anything.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Stitching blurred images

2010-04-08 Thread Carl von Einem
How about shooting the same set twice? Let's assume your light meter 
shows 1/500sec @ f2.8, so for each frame a second exposure could be shot 
with 1/15sec @ f16. Maybe this is doable with a bracketing setting, 
otherwise I'd try tethered shooting. My macro lens even allows to be 
stopped down to f32. The stopped down set should align a lot better, 
just exchange the image sets prior to stitching.


Carl

Nicolas Pelletier schrieb am 08.04.10 03:28:


Basically, I have a pano made of multiple images with a macro lens, shot
a wide aperture (100mm macro at 2.8 with a focusing distance inside the
macro range).

I have multiple images in the range that are sharp, therefore stitch
perfectly.
I have many others that are out of focus and are only blurred
transitions. These don't have anything sharp, but do have different
"spots" i.e. not a single blurred flat color.
Those images don't get control points properly.

I have tried panomatic and autopanosiftc with different sized images,
but nothing yet.

What I'd like to achieve: get all the sharp images perfectly aligned,
get all the blurred images somewhat aligned. Since they are that
blurred, bad alignment would not be a problem, enblend would make a nice
result. No alignment at all would mean manual work which I would like to
avoid; keep the whole process automated.

PS, for panomatic, there are some sieve parameters... I thought they
might help, but can't figure out how they work.


Sorry, no idea about this. Panomatic is not too well documented as it seems.

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[hugin-ptx] Funky test result

2010-04-08 Thread ORFrankOR
I'd been having trouble with v 2009, so I downloaded and installed v
2010 and ran it on an existing image that I divided into two parts.
The result, while OK in the image area, shows misalignment of the
border frame and distortion of the edges and edge and corner toning
that resembles vignetting.

I can make images available for anyone to examine.

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