Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0 release notes

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Friday, 22 July 2011 at 21:54:51 +0100, Bruno Postle wrote:
> On Fri 22-Jul-2011 at 13:09 -0700, Carl von Einem wrote:
>> What's the "official" name for it?
>
> Also it's called "Hugin Calibrate Lens" in the linux desktop menu,
> and "Hugin Lens calibration GUI" in the application itself.
>
> I think "GUI" doesn't mean anything to most people so we should
> avoid it, I'd go for "Hugin Lens Calibration Tool"

Given that this is part of Hugin, the repeated word "Hugin" seems
redundant.  Why not just "Lens Calibration Tool"?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0_rc2 released

[Yuval Levy]

On July 22, 2011 05:02:36 am JeCh wrote:
> I'm afraid this bug might affect all Windows users

This bug affects everybody, but is spurious, i.e. most users don't have any 
symptoms.  If it had manifested itself with symptoms to all Windows users, it 
would have been caught before.

The bug is most likely present in releases since the 2011.0beta1, released 
February 27, 2011.  The 2011.0 release cycle has been a long one, with the 
release declared final on May 29, 2011.  Plenty of Windows users have 
downloaded the betas and RCs.  If they all had symptoms, I guess we would have 
known it earlier and not declared 2011.0 final on May 29, 2011.


> and that certainly isn't a small number of people.

When somebody is affected (and you are), even a group of one isn't a small 
number of people.  I understand your situation, and yet I am sorry that I do 
not have a good solution for you.

You can try to use the Show/Hide button in the fast preview to hide the 
overview.  If that solves the problem, you have helped narrow down where the 
problem happens, namely in the code for the newly introduced overview.

You can go back to 2010.4.0 for your production needs.  Or you can try a Linux 
version (in a virtual machine).

You can help narrow down the bug by looking at every single changeset between 
2010.4.0 and identifying which one causes the problem.

I am sorry I don't have a better answer for you.  I use the latest bleeding 
edge on three machines as well, one with nVidia, one with ATI, and one with 
Intel graphics.  I was able to trigger the error on the nVidia one, but I had 
to work hard to crash it.  In normal use, the bug shows no symptoms here.

Yuv



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0 release notes

[Yuval Levy]

On July 22, 2011 11:22:06 am zarl wrote:
> The last paragraph in the "Download" section should end with a ''.

fixed all typos, thanks for reviewing and reporting.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0 release notes

[Yuval Levy]

On July 22, 2011 04:51:24 pm Harry van der Wolf wrote:
> 2011/7/22 zarl 
> > I find three different names for the same tool:
> > - 
> > 
> >  "Lens Calibration Tool"
> > 
> > - 
> > 
> >  "Calibrate lens gui"
> > 
> > -  > lang=EN&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin>
> > 
> >  "lens_calibrate_gui"
> > 
> > What's the "official" name for it?


Add "Lens Calibrator" which is how the app shows and is sorted in KDE 
desktops.


> Based on these examples I would say the official name should be "Calibrate
> lens gui".

I disagree.  "GUI" is redundant - when the user clicks on the icon to start 
the tool, he/she is already in the GUI and repeating it is ugly and not 
helpful.

Terms that are OK IMHO are "Calibrate Lens", "Lens Calibrator", "Lens 
Calibration Tool".

I second Bruno's "Hugin Lens Calibration Tool".

Yuv


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 回覆：Autopano-sift-c and win32

[Yuval Levy]

On July 20, 2011 05:38:19 am Constantine wrote:
> Thank you for reply
> 
> P.S.
> It'll be better to reflect this in wiki

The wiki is "self-maintaining" - you can create yourself an account there and 
updated it to reflect the knowledge you acquired and the wiki still lacks.

Thanks
Yuv


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin 2011.2.0_rc2 released

[Yuval Levy]

On July 20, 2011 01:27:46 am Lajos Höss wrote:
> When will the final version out? (my translation not completed yet, 95%
> ready)

A few translations arrived this week.  I will issue an RC3 that will include 
them.

No final version is out without testing, but you can assume that unless there 
is a good reason not to, every current RC can be declared final any time 
(usually within a week).

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin Blue screen of death in Fast Preview Window

[Frederic Da Vitoria]

2011/7/22 Lukáš Jirkovský 

> On 20 July 2011 13:42, Frederic Da Vitoria  wrote:
> >
> > Probably related to
> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/83cfc1fe06690654
>
> I don't think so. That problem is most likely caused by some threading
> issue which cause lockup in some cases. This, however, seems like a
> deficiency in graphics drivers.
>

Ok. The workaround would still help Jiří, wouldn't it?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0 release notes

[Bruno Postle]

On Fri 22-Jul-2011 at 13:09 -0700, Carl von Einem wrote:

Sorry, I have another question regarding the release notes...

I find three different names for the same tool:
- 
 "Lens Calibration Tool"



- 
 "Calibrate lens gui"


"calibrate_lens_gui" is the name of the executable file, so this is 
fine.



- http://panorama.dyndns.org/index.php?lang=EN&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin
"lens_calibrate_gui"


This looks like a typo.


What's the "official" name for it?


Also it's called "Hugin Calibrate Lens" in the linux desktop menu, 
and "Hugin Lens calibration GUI" in the application itself.


I think "GUI" doesn't mean anything to most people so we should 
avoid it, I'd go for "Hugin Lens Calibration Tool"


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0 release notes

[Harry van der Wolf]

2011/7/22 zarl 

> Sorry, I have another question regarding the release notes...
>
> I find three different names for the same tool:
> - 
>  "Lens Calibration Tool"
> - 
>  "Calibrate lens gui"
> -  lang=EN&subject=Hugin&texttag=Hugin>
>  "lens_calibrate_gui"
>
> What's the "official" name for it?
>
> Carl
>
>
>
I'm afraid the tool is so new that it doesn't have an official name yet.
The creator Thomas Modes called the wiki page "Calibrate lens gui". The
binary that is created is called lens_calibrate_gui. "Lens Calibration tool"
only describes the tool and is definitely not the the name of the tool.

It's the same for "Align Image Stack" (wiki) and align_image_stack (binary),
or "pano modify" (wiki) and "pano_modify" (binary) or "celeste standalone"
(wiki) and "celeste_standalone" (binary).

Based on these examples I would say the official name should be "Calibrate
lens gui".

Harry

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0 release notes

[zarl]

Sorry, I have another question regarding the release notes...

I find three different names for the same tool:
- 
  "Lens Calibration Tool"
- 
  "Calibrate lens gui"
- 
  "lens_calibrate_gui"

What's the "official" name for it?

Carl


On Jul 22, 5:22 pm, zarl  wrote:
> The last paragraph in the "Download" section should end with a ''.
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin Blue screen of death in Fast Preview Window

[Lukáš Jirkovský]

On 20 July 2011 13:42, Frederic Da Vitoria  wrote:
>
> Probably related to
> http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/83cfc1fe06690654

I don't think so. That problem is most likely caused by some threading
issue which cause lockup in some cases. This, however, seems like a
deficiency in graphics drivers.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0 release notes

[zarl]

The last paragraph in the "Download" section should end with a ''.

On Jul 22, 1:18 pm, Carl von Einem  wrote:
> I just found a small typo in the release notes...

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0_rc2 released

[kfj]

On 22 Jul., 11:02, JeCh  wrote:

> I have an idea, but I'm not sure if it is possible: What about running
> the FPW in a separate thread and when it deadlocks or crashes, destroy
> the thread and open normal PW as a backup? Just an idea, I'm not sure
> how difficult it would be or if it is possible at all.

AFAIK, only the main thread in a wxWidgets application can use GUI
commands. Since the FPW does lots of GUI stuff, I think running it in
a separate thread is impossible. I just learned this sad fact when we
tried to find a way to show a python plugin's console output as it's
produced. We wanted to put the display window into a different thread,
so it could just hang there, receive data and print them. No joy. It
works sometimes on some platforms, but crashes on others and it's
generally recommended against.

Kay

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[hugin-ptx] Hugin 2011.2.0 release notes

[Carl von Einem]

I just found a small typo in the release notes (I'm currently working on 
the German translation):

indespensible -> indispensable

Carl

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Different numbers of brackets for HDR spherical panos

[Karmadillo]

I ran the stitch with verbose setting.
Enblend was outputting: "images do not overlap, you can force
blending..." for each image that it processed.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0_rc2 released

[Frederic Da Vitoria]

2011/7/22, JeCh :
> On 22 čnc, 06:05, Yuval Levy  wrote:
>> Technically these two bugs could not be more different, e.g. the FPW bug
>> is
>> spurious while the OSX is consistently reproducible.  From a release
>> management point of view they share some similarities:
>>
>> - they affect a small but important number of users.  too small to stop
>> the
>> release, but too important to simply live with a "known quirk".
>
> I might just have a very bad luck, but I experienced the FPW bug on
> all 4 computers I used Hugin on. One has a very old ATI grpahics,
> another has a new nVidia, the 3rd has an Intel and the last one SGX
> (branded by Intel). So I'm afraid this bug might affect all Windows
> users and that certainly isn't a small number of people.
>
> On the first computer (Notebook with ATI grpahics) I also had FPW
> crash in Linux, but it might be because of the opensource driver and
> the fact that it misses support for some features.
>
> I have an idea, but I'm not sure if it is possible: What about running
> the FPW in a separate thread and when it deadlocks or crashes, destroy
> the thread and open normal PW as a backup? Just an idea, I'm not sure
> how difficult it would be or if it is possible at all.

Hello

I wanted to suggest something like this. It would not solve the issue,
but it would at least avoid crashing Hugin and give a chance to save
the .pto. If detecting the deadlock/crash is not possible, allowing
the user to close the FPW window manually without crashing Hugin would
be nice too.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2011.2.0_rc2 released

[JeCh]

On 22 čnc, 06:05, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> Technically these two bugs could not be more different, e.g. the FPW bug is
> spurious while the OSX is consistently reproducible.  From a release
> management point of view they share some similarities:
>
> - they affect a small but important number of users.  too small to stop the
> release, but too important to simply live with a "known quirk".

I might just have a very bad luck, but I experienced the FPW bug on
all 4 computers I used Hugin on. One has a very old ATI grpahics,
another has a new nVidia, the 3rd has an Intel and the last one SGX
(branded by Intel). So I'm afraid this bug might affect all Windows
users and that certainly isn't a small number of people.

On the first computer (Notebook with ATI grpahics) I also had FPW
crash in Linux, but it might be because of the opensource driver and
the fact that it misses support for some features.

I have an idea, but I'm not sure if it is possible: What about running
the FPW in a separate thread and when it deadlocks or crashes, destroy
the thread and open normal PW as a backup? Just an idea, I'm not sure
how difficult it would be or if it is possible at all.

JeCh

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