Re: [hugin-ptx] keep one image above others?
On Friday, 4 November 2011 at 6:39:59 -0200, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) wrote: Em sexta-feira, 4 de novembro de 2011, TinCanFurysteve.ad...@gmail.com escreveu: I have a series of photos I'm trying to merge, two of them contain an object in the overlapping area where I would like to have one image be used for that space and not the other image that also contains that space, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do that. Everything I've tried still has the image I don't want to be used for that space being used. Have you tried hugin masks? As I was going to say. But in my experience, only exclude masks work. Has anybody got include masks to work as well? Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer Finger g...@freebsd.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua pgpvEBvIyUOzy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [hugin-ptx] keep one image above others?
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 4 November 2011 at 6:39:59 -0200, Carlos Eduardo G. Carvalho (Cartola) wrote: Em sexta-feira, 4 de novembro de 2011, TinCanFurysteve.ad...@gmail.com escreveu: I have a series of photos I'm trying to merge, two of them contain an object in the overlapping area where I would like to have one image be used for that space and not the other image that also contains that space, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do that. Everything I've tried still has the image I don't want to be used for that space being used. Have you tried hugin masks? As I was going to say. But in my experience, only exclude masks work. Has anybody got include masks to work as well? They've worked for me. Just create the mask, set it to include. It doesn't work for you? -- Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wandering the landscape of god http://www.cafepress.com/otherend/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: keep one image above others?
On 5 Nov., 07:22, Greg 'groggy' Lehey groog...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried hugin masks? As I was going to say. But in my experience, only exclude masks work. Has anybody got include masks to work as well? They work for me as well, though I don't use them so much. It only took me a while to understand what precisely they do and how to employ that. Include masks basically put exclude masks on all other images that coincide with the mask and leave the image with the include mask unmasked. That's the only way to do it since the blending stage has no notion of masks, only of alpha channels, so you can only take away bits from images. And that's also the reason why overlapping include masks don't work - you get holes in the pano. The content is taken from the bit that's masked with the include mask, excluding all other content other images could provide for that area. Kay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: how do you do your hand adjustments of your panos?
On 4 Nov., 23:42, JohnPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: I always feel like I would like to see where Hugin has decided to put the blend seams and see if I agree. Hugin isn't placing the seams, the seam placement is done by enblend. Enblend only generates one single unlayered image, so it's (hopefully ;-) hard to tell where the seams are placed - it's using quite spohisticated methods to place the seams so that they're as visually unobtrusive as possible, but it can't modify the images it's fed with, so some errors just can't be avoided. It would be nice if enblend could somehow convey it's seam placement, e. g. by outputting a layered image or a diagram, but it doesn't seem to be on anybody's todo list... I On the other hand, it has always worked better than I expected it would and I appreciate the fact that it's easy to understand and straightforward to use. Now that I have tried the technique I described, I appreciate Hugin's implementation even more. It's hard to keep track of what's going on in a regular image editor full of layers and masks. Once you get the hang of the masks, they're pretty much all you need in most cases, and they're tailormade for the (panorama) job with nice shortcuts like applying masks to stacks and such. Still evolving and getting better. Kay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: how do you do your hand adjustments of your panos?
I should probably clarify this as now I look at it, it doesn't convey what I really wanted it too. First, the masking feature is great and I was quite happy to see it added. It works very well and I particularly like how it communicates how a mask on one layer effects overlapping areas on the other layers. A very clever solution. What I find a little frustrating is that the cursor, lines, and points are overly large for the task making it hard to see what you are doing. Also, although I may have missed it, I have not found a way to zoom in to work, nor have I found a way to add or remove points to the mask after it is created. It actually works very nicely in other respects. I hope nobody takes offense when I say something ignorant or incorrect about Hugin and the underlying tools. It's amazing software and I know I have only scratched the surface of its functions and features. On Nov 4, 5:42 pm, JohnPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 5:11 pm, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: The primary tool is the Mask tab in Hugin. You can render layers and try and blend them in an image editor but this is painful. Although I was super excited when a Masking feature was added to Hugin, I felt the interface was somewhat lacking in subtlety and control. I always feel like I would like to see where Hugin has decided to put the blend seams and see if I agree. I On the other hand, it has always worked better than I expected it would and I appreciate the fact that it's easy to understand and straightforward to use. Now that I have tried the technique I described, I appreciate Hugin's implementation even more. It's hard to keep track of what's going on in a regular image editor full of layers and masks. You can also use the clone tool in an editor to fix missing areas, but I prefer to use a photo multiple times in a Hugin project with different masking to patch up larger areas like skies and ground. Now there's a great tip! I hadn't really thought of doing that. (Although it seems like I've seen reference to doing something like that in the website somewhere. I probably just didn't understand the implications.) To fix broken lines like 'steps' in the horizon, this technique still works: http://wiki.panotools.org/Mending_parallax_errors_with_the_shear_tool I did read that article at some point. -- Bruno Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Hugin 2011.4beta 1 released
Hugin 2011.4 beta 1 is released. A vertical feature detector has been added. Beside this many bugs have been fixed (see also release notes below). Please test. Now it is also a good time to update the translations. Few new strings have been added. Following the release notes: Hugin-2011.4 BETA 1 RELEASE NOTES DOWNLOAD The 2011.4 beta 1 source tarball can be downloaded * from SourceForge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2011.4/hugin-2011.4beta1.tar.bz2/download * from Launchpad at http://launchpad.net/hugin/2011.4/2011.4beta1/+download/hugin-2011.4beta1.tar.bz2 This is a source code release. For executables see below. This tarball is equivalent to rev/changeset 4ddbc0de5115 in our Mercurial repository, where it is also tagged 2011.4beta1 Verify its SHA1SUM 89f6ea1f10fae589357bb51581008d7e8e66ed82 hugin-2011.4beta1.tar.bz2 EXECUTABLES Users communities produce executables for their respective platforms. These executables are then added to the download section on SourceForge at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/ A number of users have built recent snapshots and executables are likely to be announced within a few days of this tarball release. Watch http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx for the announcements of binary releases. If you don't see a binary for your platform it has most likely not been produced yet. Consider stepping up to the task. Instructions at http://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools#Supported_Platforms Announce your build on http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx TRANSLATIONS This beta releases introduces some new strings. Now is a good time to help update your language. Instructions at http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide CHANGES SINCE 2011.2.0 Hugin has got a vertical feature detection tool for automatic levelling of panoramas. Beside this also many bugs have fixed and many general improvements have been made. Vertical feature detection tool Often a panorama, created from several single photos, is not level. In this case the experienced user adds vertical and horizontal control points to level the panorama. Hugin has now a tool named linefind which can automatically find vertical features in the photos such as the edges of buildings and windows, and assigns vertical control points to them. This makes is easier than before to level a panorama, in most cases it works without any intervention. Other Improvements * The Fast Preview window can now show composition guides such as Rule of Thirds and Golden ratio to support an easier composition of the final panorama. * The output of High Dynamic Range (HDR) images has been modified to prevent clipping of the exposure in EXR format images. The previous versions of Hugin outputted HDR images with absolute exposure values, now with this 2011.4.0 release, Hugin uses relative exposure values. This means that the output Exposure Value (EV) of the panorama, which can be set in the preview window, has an influence on the HDR output (as already for normal LDR images) and should be set to the medium exposure value of the images. If you set the output exposure value to zero, the old behaviour is restored. * The batch processor PTBatcherGUI has been extended: o It is now possible to directly add unaligned projects to the assistant queue for aligning and control point generation. o Successfully stitched projects can be automatically removed from the queue, this makes the queue management easier. o If a project was successfully finished by the assistant, it can be automatically added to the stitching queue. This now allows a fully automatic panorama creation workflow. * Many more improvements and bug fixes. UPGRADING Upgrading from previous versions of Hugin should be seamless. If you do have problems with old settings, these can be reset in the Preferences by clicking 'Load defaults'. It is strongly recommeded to set the default control point detector to Hugin's CPFind. It is the only control point generator endorsed by Hugin. Third-party generators may be compatible with the plug-in architecture. COMPILING Users compiling from source refer to the dependencies listed at http://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools#Dependencies and the build processes listed at http://wiki.panotools.org/Development_of_Open_Source_tools#Build_your_Own_Test_Builds More information in the README and INSTALL_cmake files in the tarball. KNOWN ISSUES AND WORKAROUNDS Panosphere Overview window seperated from the content https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/726997 There is a known problem building Hugin with CMake 2.8.5rc2. Workaround: Upgrade to a newer CMake version. Mac OS X Users at Tiger and Lion: this version of Hugin contains an openMP enabled enblend and enfuse. These versions don't run on Tiger and currently not on Lion either. Please
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: how do you do your hand adjustments of your panos?
Hi John, it's not obvious, but you can do some things with masks. To add a new point just activate the mask, clicking into it (not in any point) and then click Ctrl+left mouse over some line. To remove a specific point, select it and click del key. To zoom there is a combo box called Zoom with default value of Fix to windows (not sure, mine is in Portuguese) where you can choose some pre-defined values. In fact I agree that those masks are note much precise and usually when I need more precision I use remapped images into layers in GIMP. Cheers, Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola) http://cartola.org/360 2011/11/5 JohnPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com I should probably clarify this as now I look at it, it doesn't convey what I really wanted it too. First, the masking feature is great and I was quite happy to see it added. It works very well and I particularly like how it communicates how a mask on one layer effects overlapping areas on the other layers. A very clever solution. What I find a little frustrating is that the cursor, lines, and points are overly large for the task making it hard to see what you are doing. Also, although I may have missed it, I have not found a way to zoom in to work, nor have I found a way to add or remove points to the mask after it is created. It actually works very nicely in other respects. I hope nobody takes offense when I say something ignorant or incorrect about Hugin and the underlying tools. It's amazing software and I know I have only scratched the surface of its functions and features. On Nov 4, 5:42 pm, JohnPW johnpwatk...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 5:11 pm, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote: The primary tool is the Mask tab in Hugin. You can render layers and try and blend them in an image editor but this is painful. Although I was super excited when a Masking feature was added to Hugin, I felt the interface was somewhat lacking in subtlety and control. I always feel like I would like to see where Hugin has decided to put the blend seams and see if I agree. I On the other hand, it has always worked better than I expected it would and I appreciate the fact that it's easy to understand and straightforward to use. Now that I have tried the technique I described, I appreciate Hugin's implementation even more. It's hard to keep track of what's going on in a regular image editor full of layers and masks. You can also use the clone tool in an editor to fix missing areas, but I prefer to use a photo multiple times in a Hugin project with different masking to patch up larger areas like skies and ground. Now there's a great tip! I hadn't really thought of doing that. (Although it seems like I've seen reference to doing something like that in the website somewhere. I probably just didn't understand the implications.) To fix broken lines like 'steps' in the horizon, this technique still works: http://wiki.panotools.org/Mending_parallax_errors_with_the_shear_tool I did read that article at some point. -- Bruno Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Which EXIF data does Hugin need?
2011/11/4 kfj _...@yahoo.com Are you sure you ran the optimizer after generating the CPs? Having the CPs per se doesn't 'move' the images, only after optimization they have y, p and r values to spread them out on the panosphere. Try optimizing once with the default setting and take it from there. On the contrary, I'm sure I *didn't* run the optimizer. Also, I'm sure I didn't do so the other times when I used the assistant and the images did find their place on the panosphere, but now that I know I have to, everything seems to work for me again :-) Thanks! Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: Building 2011.5 on Ubuntu 11.04
Sorry, this is a message from the future ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Building 2011.5 on Ubuntu 11.04
On 11/05/2011 07:05 PM, Jeffrey Martin wrote: Sorry, this is a message from the future ;-) So, you can tell us how to fix the issue with the problematic characters in file and directory names once and for all operating systems involved/supported ? Cheers Stefan Peter -- In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin 2011.4beta 1 released
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:24:16 +1100, T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de wrote: Hugin 2011.4 beta 1 is released. A vertical feature detector has been added. Beside this many bugs have been fixed (see also release notes below). Please test. Thanks Thomas. Builds OK in Fedora 15 x86_64. I have stitched a project and all seems OK. I will run a few more projects/tests when I get a bit more time. Cheers, -- Regards, Terry Duell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Hugin and other free panoramic software group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
