Re: [hugin-ptx] Abridged summary of hug...@googlegroups.com - 10 Messages in 6 Topics

[Gnome Nomad]

I did. I never said OS X was never OSS. I said it had moved so far 
beyond its OSS foundation (Darwin) that in my opinion it's no longer 
OSS. I don't have to add a particular manufacturer's closed-source 
proprietary code to Linux to make it Linux. So OS X does not "stand on 
the shoulders of OSS" the same way Linux does. In a strict 
interpretation of some OSS licenses, some might say that *OS X would be 
in violation of those licenses*.


But this isn't making Hugin any better, regardless of platform it 
happens to run on. Now Hugin on a Google Nexus 10 - that would be 
interesting!



On 02/20/2013 09:24 AM, JohnPW wrote:

Me, "I'm sure you know that *Darwin is an OSS OS*"
You, "*OS X* has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my opinion
it *is no longer open source*"

Me, [my point being OS X *was **never* open source] ". . . you're
misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, *Darwin is an Apple led
OSS effort* and OS X (Apple's complete *commercial OS, which is not
OSS*) consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary,
and some not) . . . *all running atop Darwin*."
You, "Sounds like *OS X is proprietary*, to me*- not OSS*. It may have a
slab of Darwin OSS beneath it, but *OS X is not Darwin*."

Did you read anything I wrote before you commented on it? :-)

John

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:30:17 AM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:

So to turn Darwin into OS X, we only need to add a number of other
items, particularly key Apple-proprietary (non-OSS) pieces. Sounds like
OS X is proprietary, to me - not OSS. It may have a slab of Darwin OSS
beneath it, but OS X is not Darwin. So OS X is no longer OSS. Doesn't
sound strange to me at all!

Anyway, I've used OS X (and Windows and OS/2 and Linux), too. Glad you
enjoy it!

On 02/19/2013 01:14 PM, JohnPW wrote:
 > I'm sure your an expert in your bailiwick, but I think you're
 > misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, Darwin is an Apple
led OSS
 > effort and OS X (Apple's complete commercial OS, which is not OSS)
 > consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary,
and some
 > not) such as OpenGL QuickTime, Quartz, Cocoa, and the Aqua UI, all
 > running atop Darwin. So to say "OS X has moved so far beyond its
Darwin
 > roots that in my opinion it is no longer open source." is a strange
 > thing to say in any of a number of ways.
 > In any case, I applaud efforts, of all kinds, to create good
software
 > for people to use. And I love my Mac that's running OS X (which
stands
 > on the shoulders of OSS just as Linux does.)
 > If you think Linux is the best thing since sliced bread, then
more power
 > to you. Because I think people deserve to use whatever OS they
decide
 > they like (with all the good and bad trade-offs entailed in their
 > choice.)  :-)
 >
 > On Monday, February 18, 2013 1:17:07 PM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:
 >
 >
 > OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my
opinion it is
 > no longer open source. You can't get yourself a full copy of
Mac OS
 > X by
 > simply downloading the Darwin source and compiling it ...
 >
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[hugin-ptx] Re: X,Y,Z,yaw,pitch,rol from file?

[Agustin Lobo]

Thanks, very helpful and impressed by the Geotagger Pro 2
I understand I have to crete a file such as the mentioned project.pts:
# ptGui project file
p w2 h1 f2 v360
#-imgfile 2848 4288 "DSC_0768.tif"
o f0 y56.5 r0 p61.4
...

but how is it that the actual x,y,z coordinates are not there?
would I just add those as another line, ie.
#-imgfile 2848 4288 "DSC_0768.tif"
x 456789 y 4432333 z 1345
o f0 y56.5 r0 p61.4
...

Agus

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:34:36 PM UTC+1, Geoff G8DHE wrote:
>
> This might help http://360.g8dhe.net/cameraattitude/cameraattitude.htm

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Re: [hugin-ptx] X,Y,Z,yaw,pitch,rol from file?

[Agustin Lobo]

Thanks,
it seems like the mentioned match-n-shift with the CSV --input option
would be what I need, but where am I supposed to find the match-n-shift 
script? I cannot find it in my installation (Mac OSx 2012.0.0 built by 
Harry van der Wolf)
Agus


On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:41:58 PM UTC+1, Cartola wrote:
>
> Maybe this topic can help you:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/hugin-ptx/Wyyu7qHgRIM
>
> Bests,
>
> Carlos E G Carvalho (Cartola)
> http://cartola.org/360
> http://www.panoforum.com.br/
>
>
> 2013/2/20 Agustin Lobo >
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'd like to make a mosaic of a large nb of aerial photos
>> over a flat area using the mosaic mode of hugin. 
>> Is it possible to read the values of the x,y,z positions
>> and the angles pitch,raw and yaw from a file? I do have
>> very good initial values that can later be refined by hugin.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Agus
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Tell hugin relative position of pictures to be stitched ?

[Agustin Lobo]

Thomas,

I do not see the "Hugin's CPFind (prealigned)" option among the ones
listed in my version (Mac OSx 2012  

2012.0.0 built by Harry van der Wolf)

Can I add it? Or do I have to use the command line cpfind?

Thanks

Agus

On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:16:14 PM UTC+1, T. Modes wrote:
>
> > 
> > Is there something like this ? 
> > 
>
>
> Yes. 
>
> Variant 1: first assign stack numbers to the stacked images. Then use 
> cpfind with the multirow switch (cpfind --multirow). This will 
> drastically reduce the number of image pairs checked. 
>
> Variant 2: assign rough positions to all images (set yaw, pitch and 
> roll accordingly), then use cpfind with the prealigned matching 
> strategy (cpfind --prealigned). The GUI has already a setting for this 
> use case (named "Hugin's CPFind (prealigned)") 
>
> Thomas 
>

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[hugin-ptx] Strangenesses with Identify in the new GUI

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

I'm just playing around with the new GUI for the first time, and I
discover that in the Fast Panorama Preview the "identify" function
only works in the Preview tab, and only after explicitly being turned
on.  In other tabs it doesn't just not work, it requires me to
reselect the function when I return to the Preview tab.  Is this
intentional?  Or does it even happen on other platforms?  This is on
FreeBSD.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Problems building from hg

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Monday, 18 February 2013 at 11:42:02 -0800, T. Modes wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> On 18 Feb., 05:29, Greg 'groggy' Lehey  wrote:
>> I've just checked out the latest version of Hugin (revision 7f5499ea1cfc) 
>> from
>> the Mercurial repository, and when I try to build I get:
>>
>> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:75 (FILE):
>>   file Internal CMake error when trying to open file:
>>   /src/FreeBSD/svn/ports/graphics/hugin-devel/work/hugin/rev.txt for reading.
>>
>
> This sounds like your local repository/checkout is not ok.  After
> checkout there should be a folder .hg (created/used by
> mercurial). From the error message it appears that this folder is
> missing, so the local repository is corrupted.

No, it was there, but I removed it.  The intention here is to build a
tarball for the FreeBSD hugin-devel port, and the .hg hierarchy is far
too large.

> You need to build directly from the local repository, then the
> rev.txt is not needed and will be automatically created.

OK.  So this is an hg thing?

> If this is not an option, you can create you own "source tarball":
> Do a fresh checkout, then run cmake, followed by "make
> package_source". Now you have your own source tarball. Extract this
> tarball and build from this directory.

Thanks.  That wasn't my question, but it was what I wanted to know :-)

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[hugin-ptx] Re: X,Y,Z,yaw,pitch,rol from file?

[Geoff G8DHE]

This might help http://360.g8dhe.net/cameraattitude/cameraattitude.htm

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: The viewable sphere

[JohnPW]

Thanks, I missed that the second reference was the second part.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Abridged summary of hug...@googlegroups.com - 10 Messages in 6 Topics

[JohnPW]

Me, "I'm sure you know that *Darwin is an OSS OS*"
You, "*OS X* has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my opinion it 
*is no longer open source*"

Me, [my point being OS X *was **never* open source] ". . . you're 
misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, *Darwin is an Apple led 
OSS effort* and OS X (Apple's complete *commercial OS, which is not OSS*) 
consists 
of a number of other software parts (some proprietary, and some not) . . .  
*all running atop Darwin*."
You, "Sounds like *OS X is proprietary*, to me* - not OSS*. It may have a 
slab of Darwin OSS beneath it, but *OS X is not Darwin*."

Did you read anything I wrote before you commented on it? :-)

John

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:30:17 AM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:
>
> So to turn Darwin into OS X, we only need to add a number of other 
> items, particularly key Apple-proprietary (non-OSS) pieces. Sounds like 
> OS X is proprietary, to me - not OSS. It may have a slab of Darwin OSS 
> beneath it, but OS X is not Darwin. So OS X is no longer OSS. Doesn't 
> sound strange to me at all! 
>
> Anyway, I've used OS X (and Windows and OS/2 and Linux), too. Glad you 
> enjoy it! 
>
> On 02/19/2013 01:14 PM, JohnPW wrote: 
> > I'm sure your an expert in your bailiwick, but I think you're 
> > misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, Darwin is an Apple led OSS 
> > effort and OS X (Apple's complete commercial OS, which is not OSS) 
> > consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary, and some 
> > not) such as OpenGL QuickTime, Quartz, Cocoa, and the Aqua UI, all 
> > running atop Darwin. So to say "OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin 
> > roots that in my opinion it is no longer open source." is a strange 
> > thing to say in any of a number of ways. 
> > In any case, I applaud efforts, of all kinds, to create good software 
> > for people to use. And I love my Mac that's running OS X (which stands 
> > on the shoulders of OSS just as Linux does.) 
> > If you think Linux is the best thing since sliced bread, then more power 
> > to you. Because I think people deserve to use whatever OS they decide 
> > they like (with all the good and bad trade-offs entailed in their 
> > choice.)  :-) 
> > 
> > On Monday, February 18, 2013 1:17:07 PM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my opinion it 
> is 
> > no longer open source. You can't get yourself a full copy of Mac OS 
> > X by 
> > simply downloading the Darwin source and compiling it ... 
> > 
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[hugin-ptx] X,Y,Z,yaw,pitch,rol from file?

[Agustin Lobo]

Hi!

I'd like to make a mosaic of a large nb of aerial photos
over a flat area using the mosaic mode of hugin. 
Is it possible to read the values of the x,y,z positions
and the angles pitch,raw and yaw from a file? I do have
very good initial values that can later be refined by hugin.

Thanks,

Agus


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Copying control points? Can I?

[moonkiller_90]

Hey,

Thanks a lot from your response, it helped us to progress!

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Abridged summary of hugi...@googlegroups.com - 10 Messages in 6 Topics

[Gnome Nomad]

So to turn Darwin into OS X, we only need to add a number of other 
items, particularly key Apple-proprietary (non-OSS) pieces. Sounds like 
OS X is proprietary, to me - not OSS. It may have a slab of Darwin OSS 
beneath it, but OS X is not Darwin. So OS X is no longer OSS. Doesn't 
sound strange to me at all!


Anyway, I've used OS X (and Windows and OS/2 and Linux), too. Glad you 
enjoy it!


On 02/19/2013 01:14 PM, JohnPW wrote:

I'm sure your an expert in your bailiwick, but I think you're
misinformed about Darwin and OS X. After all, Darwin is an Apple led OSS
effort and OS X (Apple's complete commercial OS, which is not OSS)
consists of a number of other software parts (some proprietary, and some
not) such as OpenGL QuickTime, Quartz, Cocoa, and the Aqua UI, all
running atop Darwin. So to say "OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin
roots that in my opinion it is no longer open source." is a strange
thing to say in any of a number of ways.
In any case, I applaud efforts, of all kinds, to create good software
for people to use. And I love my Mac that's running OS X (which stands
on the shoulders of OSS just as Linux does.)
If you think Linux is the best thing since sliced bread, then more power
to you. Because I think people deserve to use whatever OS they decide
they like (with all the good and bad trade-offs entailed in their
choice.)  :-)

On Monday, February 18, 2013 1:17:07 PM UTC-6, GnomeNomad wrote:


OS X has moved so far beyond its Darwin roots that in my opinion it is
no longer open source. You can't get yourself a full copy of Mac OS
X by
simply downloading the Darwin source and compiling it ...

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: The viewable sphere

[Terry Duell]

Hello John,

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 17:08:39 +1100, JohnPW  wrote:


I hope the
second part of the article is also easily available. Let us know when it
comes out.


Both parts have been published for a while now (see below).
I have no idea if Maths Horizons will make the second part freely  
available, as they have done with the first.
I found the second part more interesting because it focussed on techniques  
that we (Hugin users) don't have available to us, such as Sphere Tipping  
and the Riemann Sphere and the Complex Plane.
Hopefully the second part will be available without the necessity to buy  
the book...unless you have interest in all the other articles in it.



The original articles were published in "Maths Horizons" 19.1 (2011):
14-17 and "Maths Horizons" 19.2 (2011): 24-27.




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