Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin 2013.0.0 released

[David Haberthür]

Ciao Matthieu.
Thanks for providing a recent build for OS X.
I did a quick test on OS X 10.9 (13A603) and it seems to work as expected, see 
[1] and [2].
Habi

[1]: http://fotos.davidhaberthür.ch/index.php?photoId=10653543563
[2]: http://fotos.davidhaberthür.ch/index.php?photoId=10653375164 (all 
stitching errors are operator based, not hugins fault :) )

On 01.11.2013, at 23:49, ___matthieu___  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Sorry for the last post, but MacOSX binaries are now available here :
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2013.0/Hugin-2013.0.0.dmg/download
> 
> They have been tested to run on MacOSX 10.6, 10.8 and 10.9; they are 
> 64bit-only binaries.
> Python scripting is available.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Matthieu.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] A couple of questions

[Bruno Postle]

On Tue 05-Nov-2013 at 09:11 +1100, Terry Duell wrote:
On Tue, 05 Nov 2013 02:35:05 +1100, Michael Perry 
 wrote:



Why does the flat-scanned stitching tutorial state that "You need to stop
Hugin from assuming that all the pictures were taken with the same 
camera"?
What is the reason for that - it can take a long time changing the 
notional lens on each image

http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/scans/en.shtml


I'd be guessing a bit on this one, and probably shouldn't, so 
hopefully someone who knows will give us the right story.


This is probably left-over from the older version of this tutorial:

Before the XYZ mosaic mode was added to Hugin, stitching scans had 
to be done by optimising v,d,e 'lens parameters' separately for each 
'photo' - i.e. each 'photo' had to have different 'lens parameters'.


With the XYZ mosaic mode you can leave the lens parameters alone and 
optimise X,Y,Z - which does the same thing in this case, but is 
better conceptually since there is no 'lens' involved in the first 
place.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] A couple of questions

[Terry Duell]

Hello Michael,

On Tue, 05 Nov 2013 02:35:05 +1100, Michael Perry   
wrote:



Why does the flat-scanned stitching tutorial state that "You need to stop
Hugin from assuming that all the pictures were taken with the same  
camera"?
What is the reason for that - it can take a long time changing the  
notional lens on each image

http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/scans/en.shtml



I'd be guessing a bit on this one, and probably shouldn't, so hopefully  
someone who knows will give us the right story.



I have an issue with the way that Hugin calculates focal length: I have a
full frame sensor and the EXIF tab of the Stitcher shows the correct  
focal length of 50mm. But at the bottom of that screen, under lens type,  
my lens is shown as 38.601mm with a focal length multiplier of 1x. How  
did that get calculated?


I think the only value that is of significance to Hugin is the horizontal  
field of view, and that is an estimate only if the the images don't make  
up a full 360 deg pano. So, for a lesser overall field of view, the  
estimated lens fov gives a focal length, but I don't think it is used.



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Nothing but green

[Terry Duell]

Hello Mark,

On Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:27:21 +1100, Mark McIntosh   
wrote:


Actually, I can send them straight to you through Google drive, but it  
will take a while.


How big are the images?



On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Mark McIntosh  wrote:

I could use dropbox, but I must admit that I do not know how to do it.  
If you could explain it, then I will try and send them to you.


To use Dropbox, I think you have to go to their website and register, and  
install the dropbox software.
Then you can put a file in your dropbox public dir, get a link to it, and  
provide the link to whomever you want to have access to the file.



Have you had any success stitching any other set of images with this  
version of Hugin?

Which version of Enblend are you using?

I see you are using Fedora 18.
You could try updating to the a prerelease version of Hugin 2013,  
available here...
  
and see if that helps.



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Nothing but green

[Mark McIntosh]

Actually, I can send them straight to you through Google drive, but it will
take a while.


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Mark McIntosh  wrote:

> I could use dropbox, but I must admit that I do not know how to do it. If
> you could explain it, then I will try and send them to you.
>
> Regards
> Mark
>
>
> On Monday, 4 November 2013 19:40:27 UTC+11, Tduell wrote:
>
>> Hello Mark,
>>
>> On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:29:21 +1100, Mark McIntosh 
>> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>> > Any help will be greatly appreciated, as this is driving me to do
>> stupid
>> > things, like install windows and move to PTGUI.
>>
>> can you make your test images available...Dropbox or somesuch?
>>
>> Cheers,
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>> Terry Duell
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Nothing but green

[Mark McIntosh]

I could use dropbox, but I must admit that I do not know how to do it. If 
you could explain it, then I will try and send them to you.

Regards
Mark

On Monday, 4 November 2013 19:40:27 UTC+11, Tduell wrote:
>
> Hello Mark, 
>
> On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:29:21 +1100, Mark McIntosh 
> > 
>   
> wrote: 
>
> [snip] 
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated, as this is driving me to do stupid 
> > things, like install windows and move to PTGUI. 
>
> can you make your test images available...Dropbox or somesuch? 
>
> Cheers, 
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> Terry Duell 
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Help First Time User - Won't stich/Batch Processor not working

[T. Modes]

Hi Frederic,

Am Montag, 4. November 2013 15:19:15 UTC+1 schrieb Frederic Da Vitoria:
>
> I have been wondering: why not use Hugin_stitch_project as default? How 
> often do Hugin users really need to batch assemble several panoramas at the 
> same time or shut off their computer when the panorama is finished 
> assembling?
>
> That is a disagreement inside itself. How should the issues fixed, if 
nobody tests it and help so to improve it.

You have often advised new users to use hugin_stitch_project instead. That 
is not helpful at all. This should be the last step, if all other solutions 
don't work. 
I advised the users some steps to try to solve the issue (because I think 
in most cases it is a  special configuration or the issue is behind the 
keyboard.)
But with your advise to use hugin_stitch_project there was never a 
substantial feedback to improve the behaviour of PTBatcherGUI.

You never used PTBatcherGUI and have therefore not contributed active to 
its improvement as you always demand.

Thomas

PS: If you reduce PTBatcherGUI to a batch stitcher you have not leashed its 
full power. It contains a lot more functions.

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[hugin-ptx] A couple of questions

[Michael Perry]

Why does the flat-scanned stitching tutorial state that "You need to stop 
Hugin from assuming that all the pictures were taken with the same camera"? 
What is the reason for that - it can take a long time changing the notional 
lens on each image 
http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/scans/en.shtml

I have an issue with the way that Hugin calculates focal length: I have a 
full frame sensor and the EXIF tab of the Stitcher shows the correct focal 
length of 50mm. But at the bottom of that screen, under lens type, my lens 
is shown as 38.601mm with a focal length multiplier of 1x. How did that get 
 calculated?

Any thoughts would be appreciated


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Help First Time User - Won't stich/Batch Processor not working

[Frederic Da Vitoria]

2013/11/4 Mistral2099 

> Thanks Fredric -- have been struggling with this same problem for months
> and no joy. Your suggestion solved it for me. < Stitching tab and switch the processor to Hugin_stitch_project.<<
>
> Very much appreciated!
>

You are welcome.

On Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:51:32 PM UTC+8, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/18 hugin learner 
>>
>>>
>>> Hi, i was wondering if someone could help out.
>>>
>>> I am new to hugin and using the 2012.0.0 version which just downloaded
>>> recently. I find photos, create points, align and create reasonable images
>>> then go to stitch it using the stitch! button on the sticher tab and it
>>> creates pto file and asks me to save output image and then does absolutely
>>> nothing. Read some of the other forums on this topic and I think my problem
>>> is that the batch processor does not work. As it opens in my toolbar for
>>> 10sec then just disappears. I can't open it from the hugin file either nor
>>> the windows file programs and when i go to the appdata folder there is a
>>> crash dumper folder created there with all the failed attempts to run the
>>> batch processor. I have unistalled, reinstalled several times to no avail
>>> either. Could someone provide me with any information on how to do this. Am
>>> trying to create a panorama for a present so trying to get it done quickly!
>>>
>>> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>
>> I never use the batch processor, because I started to use Hugin before it
>> was introduced and also probably because it is not really useful for the
>> kind of panoramas I do (usually less than a dozen of source images). I
>> suggest, until someone helps you find out how to solve the batch processor
>> issue, that you go to Preferences, Stitching tab and switch the processor
>> to Hugin_stitch_project. Hugin will do the stitching himself so you will
>> avoid the problem.
>>
>
I have been wondering: why not use Hugin_stitch_project as default? How
often do Hugin users really need to batch assemble several panoramas at the
same time or shut off their computer when the panorama is finished
assembling?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Help First Time User - Won't stich/Batch Processor not working

[Mistral2099]

Thanks Fredric -- have been struggling with this same problem for months 
and no joy. Your suggestion solved it for me. <
>
> 2012/11/18 hugin learner >
>
>>
>> Hi, i was wondering if someone could help out. 
>>
>> I am new to hugin and using the 2012.0.0 version which just downloaded 
>> recently. I find photos, create points, align and create reasonable images 
>> then go to stitch it using the stitch! button on the sticher tab and it 
>> creates pto file and asks me to save output image and then does absolutely 
>> nothing. Read some of the other forums on this topic and I think my problem 
>> is that the batch processor does not work. As it opens in my toolbar for 
>> 10sec then just disappears. I can't open it from the hugin file either nor 
>> the windows file programs and when i go to the appdata folder there is a 
>> crash dumper folder created there with all the failed attempts to run the 
>> batch processor. I have unistalled, reinstalled several times to no avail 
>> either. Could someone provide me with any information on how to do this. Am 
>> trying to create a panorama for a present so trying to get it done quickly!
>>
>> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
> Hello,
>
> I never use the batch processor, because I started to use Hugin before it 
> was introduced and also probably because it is not really useful for the 
> kind of panoramas I do (usually less than a dozen of source images). I 
> suggest, until someone helps you find out how to solve the batch processor 
> issue, that you go to Preferences, Stitching tab and switch the processor 
> to Hugin_stitch_project. Hugin will do the stitching himself so you will 
> avoid the problem.
>
> HTH
>
> -- 
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> (davitof)
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] How to enable DEBUG_DEBUG() ?

[Kornel Benko]

Am Montag, 4. November 2013 um 19:40:23, schrieb Yili Zhao 
> Hi,
>   I find that Hugin uses DEBUG_DEBUG(...) to output debug message.
> 
>   In normal mode, one can't see that debug message.
> 
>   So how to enable DEBUG_DEBUG(...) ?

Have you tried
# cmake ... -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug ...
?
>   Thanks!
> 

Kornel

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[hugin-ptx] How to enable DEBUG_DEBUG() ?

[Yili Zhao]

Hi,
  I find that Hugin uses DEBUG_DEBUG(...) to output debug message.

  In normal mode, one can't see that debug message.

  So how to enable DEBUG_DEBUG(...) ?

  Thanks!

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Where are the documentation of vigra::BImage and vigra::FImage?

[Yili Zhao]

That's it, thanks!


2013/11/4 cspiel 

> On Monday, November 4, 2013 8:00:41 AM UTC+1, Yili Zhao wrote:
>>
>>   So,  where are the documentation of vigra::BImage and vigra::FImage?
>>
>
>
> http://hci.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de/vigra/doc/vigra/group__StandardImageTypes.html
>
> In particular:
>
> namespace vigra
> {
> typedef BasicImage 
> BImage
> ;
> typedef BasicImage 
> FImage
> ;
> }
>
> /cls
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Nothing but green

[Terry Duell]

Hello Mark,

On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 19:29:21 +1100, Mark McIntosh   
wrote:


[snip]

Any help will be greatly appreciated, as this is driving me to do stupid
things, like install windows and move to PTGUI.


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