Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Need some help | Hugin Speed test tab for automated hardware evaluation

2011-04-21 Thread dip leo
Hi Bart,

I'm sorry for delayed response. It's examination time here at my university
and today it's going to end :)


On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Bart van Andel bavanan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Dip,

 I'm sorry but I fail to see the importance of these preliminary results.

 You did not provide detailed enough info about the used equipment to see
 what the results mean. My guess is that the Atom equipped computer contains
 far less memory than the Core one, and obviously it has less processing
 power.


I'm sorry again that i didn't uploaded all details in full. Actually i'm
doing some initial testing here to understand different scenarios for
performance test. During this i think i gave less attention towards wiki
documentation. Anyways i'll fix it with few more interesting test results
soon.
For the time being please find configurations of machine used here :
machine-1: http://goo.gl/XRQcY and machine-2: http://goo.gl/MO2hp
Also raw data for all these tests here: http://goo.gl/GXVm4


 Some observations:
 - The CPU usage graphs look pretty similar when stretched to 100% of the
 total time used (so each device takes 100%) instead of time in seconds.
 - This is also valid for the memory write graph (what is read/secs? KB/s?
 Read operations per second?)
 - About the same is true for the memory graphs, although of course the Core
 uses more memory than the Atom. Is this total amount of memory used by the
 whole system or just by Hugin? I'm asking because (max mem) - (min mem) is
 about 200MB for both devices. And please use MB instead of kB on the
 vertical axis, this makes it more readable.



This initial testing was for overall system when all other activities on
system were nominal. (Next step would be to test only on
Hugin+it's dependencies processes only). Sure i'll take care of using units
which will little easy to read hence forth.



 - Because the Atom has less memory *and* less speed it can't read all the
 images at once but spreads it out over more time than the Core. This is all
 pretty logical and I don't see what information your tests have provided
 that we couldn't know by simple reasoning.



In my test, Core was around 1.83125 times faster than atom. If core took 51
secs to complete the given task then atom should finish it in 51*1.83125 =
~93.4 secs when rest of the system and software configurations are made
same. But atom took ~124 secs to complete the task. Question is if i take
small single board computer like this http://goo.gl/CdQ9j will hugin run on
it? How long does it take to perform the task etc?


 Furthermore, the notion that

 Calculating/finding the
 bottlenecks and tuning expensive algorithms to boost this performance
 should be valued contribution to hugin community.

 always makes sense, it does not need a speed test. Tuning algorithms
 (especially memory intensive ones, where not all data will fit in RAM) for
 optimal performance and memory usage is a nice aim, but I don't think that's
 what you propose to do yourself. At least your proposal doesn't mention it.


Yes, I must have to measure the performance of atleast core algorithms
(probably on different hardware).


 I've taken a look at the schedule in your proposal too and don't get me
 wrong, but you're taking a lot of time to create a working XML
 parser/builder. I hope you're aware that there are libraries available which
 will do this task for you without you having to worry about implementation
 details, right? For instance, PHP has SimpleXML and also XmlReader/XmlWriter
 which are very easy to use and definitely don't need 2 months work.



When i said to build XML core engine meaning to build a system that will
listen for responses for various scatter hugin clients and will take actions
accordingly. I have to intension to build yet another xml reader/writer or
parser etc. Probably some miss-communication happed from mine side!


 Last point: why would I want a tab to evaluate Hugin speed? I can see a
 point in a menu item for this, but something as permanently visible as a tab
 does not make sense to me.

 Overall I think your proposal definitely needs some work. I hope you didn't
 think this reply is too discouraging, I'm just trying to see the actual
 point in this.


Discouraging? Nope, not at all! I love this part. Different thoughts, views
are always welcome. This helps a lot while understanding the problem
statements at greater extent...

Thanks.

Best,
Dip



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Re: [hugin-ptx] GSoC Students: Approaching deadlines

2011-04-21 Thread dip leo
Hi Yuv,

Thanks for alerting!
I've submitted my patch at http://goo.gl/cXdhv

Best,
Dip


On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote:

 GSoC students:  if you have not submitted a patch against the code base,
 please do it *now*.  It does not have to be stellar like
 Rosomack/Mikolaj's just show that you master the tools.

 The good news is that it seems we have been allocated enough slots.  The
 bad news is that we need to know you can submit a patch before assigning
 you a slot.

 Please submit a patch ASAP.  Even if it just fixes something trivial, it
 will show that you know how to use the tools.

 On an unrelated topic, my apology for the lengthy delay with 2011.0 RC.
 The show stoppers have not been solved (and may be declared known
 issues) and I have been without internet for almost a week now, and the
 outage is continuing (this message is posted from a neighbor).

 Yuv



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Need some help | Hugin Speed test tab for automated hardware evaluation

2011-04-13 Thread dip leo
Thanks Jeffery!
Let me contact you off-list.

Best,
Dip

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Jeffrey Martin 360cit...@gmail.com wrote:

 i can give you a 700 image set (for example) if you want. email me offlist,
 please.

 Jeffrey

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[hugin-ptx] Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - You3DView.com

2009-09-30 Thread Leo

http://you3dview.com

It said: Free Flash Panorama Hosting like YouTube, Sharing panorama at
You3DView is as easy as sharing video at YouTube.

Any comments? Good or not?
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - You3DView.com

2009-09-30 Thread Leo

Thanks for your replies. Should know you earlier. Then I will not
waste time to work on it. Seems 360cities.net has the same idea and
already quite good.

On 9月30日, 上午12时51分, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
 Andhttp://www.you3dview.com/video/140/Tikal-Mexicois just the same
 panorama as 
 here:http://mexpedition.blogspot.com/2009/04/tikal-spherical-panorama.html
 Of course the quality of the initial image is much better.

 I will stop now.

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:48, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  Also, it seems that some of the images posted by wzqhzsc (which I
  assume is you, since this nickname has posted the same message as you
  on other forums) are not his.

 http://www.you3dview.com/video/138/Night-panorama-of-Concordiais
  copyright by Guillaume Dargaud
 http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/WinterDCe.html

 http://www.you3dview.com/video/141/Leeds-University-Clinical-Science-...
  is (c) Red Door VR Limited (http://www.red-door.co.uk/index.html) as
  can be seen in the imagehttp://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/141/141.jpg

  Reasons enough not to comment on the quality of the website itself.

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:38, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you are trying to self-promote that website, at least be upfront about 
  it.

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:22, Leo yinglih...@gmail.com wrote:

  It said: Free Flash Panorama Hosting like YouTube, Sharing panorama at
  You3DView is as easy as sharing video at YouTube.

  Any comments? Good or not?
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - You3DView.com

2009-09-30 Thread Leo

Thanks for your replies. Should know you earlier. Then I will not
waste time to work on it. Seems 360city has the same idea and
is already quite good.

On 9月30日, 上午12时51分, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
 Andhttp://www.you3dview.com/video/140/Tikal-Mexicois just the same
 panorama as 
 here:http://mexpedition.blogspot.com/2009/04/tikal-spherical-panorama.html
 Of course the quality of the initial image is much better.

 I will stop now.

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:48, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  Also, it seems that some of the images posted by wzqhzsc (which I
  assume is you, since this nickname has posted the same message as you
  on other forums) are not his.

 http://www.you3dview.com/video/138/Night-panorama-of-Concordiais
  copyright by Guillaume Dargaud
 http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/WinterDCe.html

 http://www.you3dview.com/video/141/Leeds-University-Clinical-Science-...
  is (c) Red Door VR Limited (http://www.red-door.co.uk/index.html) as
  can be seen in the imagehttp://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/141/141.jpg

  Reasons enough not to comment on the quality of the website itself.

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:38, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you are trying to self-promote that website, at least be upfront about 
  it.

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:22, Leo yinglih...@gmail.com wrote:

  It said: Free Flash Panorama Hosting like YouTube, Sharing panorama at
  You3DView is as easy as sharing video at YouTube.

  Any comments? Good or not?
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - You3DView.com

2009-09-30 Thread Leo

Thanks for pointing out. These panorama are for test purpose. I made
them as private.

On 9月30日, 上午12时51分, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
 Andhttp://www.you3dview.com/video/140/Tikal-Mexicois just the same
 panorama as 
 here:http://mexpedition.blogspot.com/2009/04/tikal-spherical-panorama.html
 Of course the quality of the initial image is much better.

 I will stop now.

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:48, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  Also, it seems that some of the images posted by wzqhzsc (which I
  assume is you, since this nickname has posted the same message as you
  on other forums) are not his.

 http://www.you3dview.com/video/138/Night-panorama-of-Concordiais
  copyright by Guillaume Dargaud
 http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/WinterDCe.html

 http://www.you3dview.com/video/141/Leeds-University-Clinical-Science-...
  is (c) Red Door VR Limited (http://www.red-door.co.uk/index.html) as
  can be seen in the imagehttp://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/141/141.jpg

  Reasons enough not to comment on the quality of the website itself.

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:38, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you are trying to self-promote that website, at least be upfront about 
  it.

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:22, Leo yinglih...@gmail.com wrote:

  It said: Free Flash Panorama Hosting like YouTube, Sharing panorama at
  You3DView is as easy as sharing video at YouTube.

  Any comments? Good or not?
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - You3DView.com

2009-09-30 Thread Leo

Learn quite a lot about copyright and license from your guys.
Will do our best to remove the images with copyright issues.

Just curious about copyright and license. Seems Google Image indexed
these panorama images and even cache them. Probably we will just crawl
as Google and just provide an index/search engine automatically and
allow people to view the panorama pictures by our viewer. As Google,
we can exclude the websites that have 'No Robot' text file. Is it
visible regarding to copyright/license issue?

Or provide an online flash panorama viewer which can view any panorama
pictures based on the user given URL.

But will still allow people who hold the copyright to upload as well.

On Sep 30, 7:30 am, Yuval Levy goo...@levy.ch wrote:
 that's unacceptable! you've misused images without a license. this is
 like taking a bus ride without paying a ticket; just say sorry or made
 them private is not enough. You have no rights to use them unless given
 explicit permission by the copyright holder. You can find images that
 you can use by searching flickr for equirectangulars that are licensed
 under Creative Common licenses. And even there, you must abide by the
 licensing terms, i.e. if they say no commercial use or no derivative,
 respect it.

 you wouldn't like it that people steal your software, would you? or take
 your car for a ride?

 owner of the images should send a DMCA notice to your host at
 ab...@dreamhost.com and get you down.

 Yuv

 Leowrote:
  Thanks for pointing out. These panorama are for test purpose. I made
  them as private.

  On 9月30日, 上午12时51分, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  Andhttp://www.you3dview.com/video/140/Tikal-Mexicoisjust the same
  panorama as 
  here:http://mexpedition.blogspot.com/2009/04/tikal-spherical-panorama.html
  Of course the quality of the initial image is much better.

  I will stop now.

  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:48, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  Also, it seems that some of the images posted by wzqhzsc (which I
  assume is you, since this nickname has posted the same message as you
  on other forums) are not his.
 http://www.you3dview.com/video/138/Night-panorama-of-Concordiais
  copyright by Guillaume Dargaud
 http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/WinterDCe.html
 http://www.you3dview.com/video/141/Leeds-University-Clinical-Science-...
  is (c) Red Door VR Limited (http://www.red-door.co.uk/index.html) as
  can be seen in the imagehttp://www.you3dview.com/flvideo/141/141.jpg
  Reasons enough not to comment on the quality of the website itself.
  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:38, Seb Perez-D sbprzd+...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you are trying to self-promote that website, at least be upfront 
  about it.
  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:22,Leoyinglih...@gmail.com wrote:
  It said: Free Flash Panorama Hosting like YouTube, Sharing panorama at
  You3DView is as easy as sharing video at YouTube.
  Any comments? Good or not?
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - You3DView.com

2009-09-30 Thread Leo

Thanks for your encourage to give us more motivation to continue
improving it.
We are also thinking of supporting automatic stitching panorama
pictures by our server and allowing to manually polish/edit panorama
afterward on our website.

On Sep 30, 8:41 am, Dale Beams drbe...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the link.  While I do understand what people are saying about 
 copyright, I'm glad you shared the link.  It has potential.

 Do you know if the images get clearer?

 I'd be interested in using the site to host some of my pano's.  It appears to 
 be easy for a user to navigate through.

 Dale

  Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:22:12 -0700
  Subject: [hugin-ptx] Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - 
  You3DView.com
  From: yinglih...@gmail.com
  To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

 http://you3dview.com

  It said: Free Flash Panorama Hosting like YouTube, Sharing panorama at
  You3DView is as easy as sharing video at YouTube.

  Any comments? Good or not?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - You3DView.com

2009-09-30 Thread Leo

It will load low quality preview images first and get clearer
afterward.
The image itself does not get clearer. But the website will allow to
zoom, pan and tilt.

On Sep 30, 8:41 am, Dale Beams drbe...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the link.  While I do understand what people are saying about 
 copyright, I'm glad you shared the link.  It has potential.

 Do you know if the images get clearer?

 I'd be interested in using the site to host some of my pano's.  It appears to 
 be easy for a user to navigate through.

 Dale

  Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:22:12 -0700
  Subject: [hugin-ptx] Anybody use this Free Flash Panorama Hosting - 
  You3DView.com
  From: yinglih...@gmail.com
  To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com

 http://you3dview.com

  It said: Free Flash Panorama Hosting like YouTube, Sharing panorama at
  You3DView is as easy as sharing video at YouTube.

  Any comments? Good or not?

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[hugin-ptx] Any free/open source tools to create QTVR/Cubic/Spherical Panorama

2009-09-21 Thread Leo

I stitched the panorama images by Hugin. But I need to convert it to
QTVR/Cubic/Spherical Panorama format. Any free/open source tools to
create QTVR/Cubic/Spherical Panorama to recommend?

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