Re: [hugin-ptx] Combining small X-rays of circuit boards to make one complete image

2023-12-27 Thread Gunter Königsmann
I already used Hugo for stitching >200 screenshots from the microscope to a big 
picture one can do deeper analysis on. The only place hugin needed help was 
when it placed a few control points into the wrong repetition of a repetitive 
structure.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Combining small X-rays of circuit boards to make one complete image

2023-12-26 Thread wirz

Hi James,

Depending on the distance between object and x-ray source there will be 
some amount of parallax.  It might be a good idea to put all control 
points on the actual pcb (preferably even the same side of the pcb) and 
not the components.


Apart from that, as Bruno is saying, this is well within scope and 45 is 
not a very large number.


cheers, lukas wirz


On 21/12/2023 17:11, James C. Williams wrote:

My current project is learning to use Hugin to create complete pictures of
circuit boards from  x-rays to be used for troubleshooting/repairs. I have
obstacles.

The first obstacle has to do with the fact that I have the latest version
of Hugin for Windows, but the tutorials are over 10 years old. Is anybody
working to update the tutorials? If so, I might be able to help.

The second obstacle is that the x-ray image files have no EXIF data, so
control points must be hand selected for every image.

The third obstacle is that my circuit board is approximately 3" x 17", and
the x-ray captures an area 1 1/4" x 7/8", so the whole thing takes about 45
images, (three rows of 15) allowing for overlap. I had to stitch segments
made up of no more than 5 images at a time, hand-generating control points
and using Advanced - Fast Panorama Preview for Move/Drag, Straighten to
remove distortion.

The fourth and current obstacle has to do with stitching together my
stitched segments.
The workflow is horizontally oriented, thus prompting my first question:
1) Does the tutorial give any relevant details on stitching vertically?

Another current issue is that I tried stitching the first two segments, and
my first segment image appears in the field about 1/3 the size of the 2nd
segment. They are the same length, but different heights.
2) Why is one image appearing smaller than the other?

The main concern is that this job may be too big for Hugin. I have spent a
lot of time on this and need it to work. If it does, I need to fine-tune my
work-flow to be able to do the same on other circuit boards. If I need to
be using something else, please let me know (gently!).

Any help towards these obstacles would be very much appreciated.



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Combining small X-rays of circuit boards to make one complete image

2023-12-26 Thread David Haberthür
Hello James

> On 21 Dec 2023, at 16:17, James C. Williams  wrote:
> 
> The main concern is that this job may be too big for Hugin. I have spent a 
> lot of time on this and need it to work. […]
> 
> Any help towards these obstacles would be very much appreciated.

I have worked with http://abria.github.io/TeraStitcher/ a bit, to stitch 
tomographic datasets together.
If you have preliminary alignment of your images, this seems better suited for 
the task than Hugin.

Habe a great day
Habi

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Combining small X-rays of circuit boards to make one complete image

2023-12-22 Thread Bruno Postle
Hi James, a multi-row stitch with 45 images shouldn't be a problem, this
isn't a big project relatively.

It isn't a 'normal' panorama where the camera has a fixed position and the
photos only vary by rotation. Probably the rotation doesn't vary and the
only thing that varies is the camera position - this is much more similar
to joining scans or microscope slides, or assembling a mosaic of a
wall/mural, all of which can be done in Hugin.

Do you have any sample images? With an example it will be easier to say
what approach needs to be taken.

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Bruno

On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, 15:17 James C. Williams wrote:

> My current project is learning to use Hugin to create complete pictures of
> circuit boards from  x-rays to be used for troubleshooting/repairs. I have
> obstacles.
>
> The first obstacle has to do with the fact that I have the latest version
> of Hugin for Windows, but the tutorials are over 10 years old. Is anybody
> working to update the tutorials? If so, I might be able to help.
>
> The second obstacle is that the x-ray image files have no EXIF data, so
> control points must be hand selected for every image.
>
> The third obstacle is that my circuit board is approximately 3" x 17", and
> the x-ray captures an area 1 1/4" x 7/8", so the whole thing takes about 45
> images, (three rows of 15) allowing for overlap. I had to stitch segments
> made up of no more than 5 images at a time, hand-generating control points
> and using Advanced - Fast Panorama Preview for Move/Drag, Straighten to
> remove distortion.
>
> The fourth and current obstacle has to do with stitching together my
> stitched segments.
> The workflow is horizontally oriented, thus prompting my first question:
> 1) Does the tutorial give any relevant details on stitching vertically?
>
> Another current issue is that I tried stitching the first two segments,
> and my first segment image appears in the field about 1/3 the size of the
> 2nd segment. They are the same length, but different heights.
> 2) Why is one image appearing smaller than the other?
>
> The main concern is that this job may be too big for Hugin. I have spent a
> lot of time on this and need it to work. If it does, I need to fine-tune my
> work-flow to be able to do the same on other circuit boards. If I need to
> be using something else, please let me know (gently!).
>
> Any help towards these obstacles would be very much appreciated.
>

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[hugin-ptx] Combining small X-rays of circuit boards to make one complete image

2023-12-21 Thread James C. Williams
My current project is learning to use Hugin to create complete pictures of 
circuit boards from  x-rays to be used for troubleshooting/repairs. I have 
obstacles.

The first obstacle has to do with the fact that I have the latest version 
of Hugin for Windows, but the tutorials are over 10 years old. Is anybody 
working to update the tutorials? If so, I might be able to help.

The second obstacle is that the x-ray image files have no EXIF data, so 
control points must be hand selected for every image.

The third obstacle is that my circuit board is approximately 3" x 17", and 
the x-ray captures an area 1 1/4" x 7/8", so the whole thing takes about 45 
images, (three rows of 15) allowing for overlap. I had to stitch segments 
made up of no more than 5 images at a time, hand-generating control points 
and using Advanced - Fast Panorama Preview for Move/Drag, Straighten to 
remove distortion.

The fourth and current obstacle has to do with stitching together my 
stitched segments.
The workflow is horizontally oriented, thus prompting my first question:
1) Does the tutorial give any relevant details on stitching vertically?

Another current issue is that I tried stitching the first two segments, and 
my first segment image appears in the field about 1/3 the size of the 2nd 
segment. They are the same length, but different heights.
2) Why is one image appearing smaller than the other?

The main concern is that this job may be too big for Hugin. I have spent a 
lot of time on this and need it to work. If it does, I need to fine-tune my 
work-flow to be able to do the same on other circuit boards. If I need to 
be using something else, please let me know (gently!). 

Any help towards these obstacles would be very much appreciated.

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