[hugin-ptx] Enfuse 4.1.1 CIECAM bug?

2013-10-07 Thread dkloi
I've been trying to track down a problem with enblended images suffering a 
lack of contrast with respect to the remapped images. It seems that I am 
not the only one experiencing this problem and it is due to the CIECAM 
blending default option for input images with colour profiles. 

Example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/48606216@N00/10135641463/ The area 
shown is not in an overlapping region so no blending should occur. The 
input image looks exactly like the right hand side when CIECAM blending 
mode is turned off. The left shows a lightening of the shadows with the 
default options. Enblend 4.1.1 Windows 64-bit version from Sourceforge. 
Windows 7 64 bit 16GB RAM, i7 3770. Lightroom 4.4 and PWP 6.0.10 64 bit.

Is the problem due to the forward and reverse mappings of the input colour 
space to CIECAM02 not being inverse? I would have expected that a 
non-overlapping region should be mapped in the output to exactly the same 
values as the input but this doesn't seem to be the case with the CIECAM 
blending mode.

Daniel.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Enfuse 4.1.1 CIECAM bug?

2013-10-07 Thread Bruno Postle
On 7 October 2013 12:07, dkloi dkl...@googlemail.com wrote:


 Is the problem due to the forward and reverse mappings of the input colour
 space to CIECAM02 not being inverse? I would have expected that a
 non-overlapping region should be mapped in the output to exactly the same
 values as the input but this doesn't seem to be the case with the CIECAM
 blending mode.


I don't have an explanation for the difference, but enblend _will_ alter
values in non-overlapping areas - The width of the blend is determined by
the number of blending levels, so if you want to rule out the blending
itself as the source of the problem then you can temporarily set this to -l
1

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Enfuse 4.1.1 CIECAM bug?

2013-10-07 Thread dkloi
Thanks for the tip about the blending levels. However, even with only a 
single blending level I get the same lightening of the shadows with the 
default options. I found a previous 
post https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hugin-ptx/354rmYe12fA/4cLfTrny11kJ 
that indicates that the problem could lie with LCMS.

Just noticed 4.1.2 on Sourceforge. Just tried it but it looks like it 
behaves the same as 4.1.1.

On Monday, October 7, 2013 1:45:05 PM UTC+1, Bruno Postle wrote:

 On 7 October 2013 12:07, dkloi dkl...@googlemail.com javascript:wrote:


 Is the problem due to the forward and reverse mappings of the input 
 colour space to CIECAM02 not being inverse? I would have expected that a 
 non-overlapping region should be mapped in the output to exactly the same 
 values as the input but this doesn't seem to be the case with the CIECAM 
 blending mode.


 I don't have an explanation for the difference, but enblend _will_ alter 
 values in non-overlapping areas - The width of the blend is determined by 
 the number of blending levels, so if you want to rule out the blending 
 itself as the source of the problem then you can temporarily set this to -l 
 1 

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 Bruno 


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