Re: [hugin-ptx] HEADS UP: Don't use gmail! (was: Control Point dialog features)
Hi Greg, dear all, with my gmail account I find 1) at first glance entire threads go into Spam 2) I find one or two examples where a reply makes it into the Inbox 3) all this starts on 16.01.2022 with a posting of Noveguy. Also between 09.01.2022 and 16.01.2022 I did not receive any hugin-ptx email. To me 9 days of list quietness look weird. Regards Klaus On 07.02.22 02:09, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I've been chasing up a mail configuration problem delivering mail to Gmail (hint: make sure you have an SPF record or similar), and in the process came across this message and about 30 more that were filed as spam: On Friday, 21 January 2022 at 10:34:06 -0800, johnfi...@gmail.com wrote: I want to make a bunch of changes to the control point dialog. (end quote) I don't understand why; there's nothing obviously wrong with the message, and unlike the problems that Gmail caused for my third-party domain, both sender and mailing list are under the control of Google. There were two other threads, also sent by people with Gmail accounts, so maybe this is part of the problem. It seems that Google is going over the top in trying to control spam, and in the process it is rejecting valid mail. I'm seriously considering giving up my Gmail account. If you have a Gmail account, you should at least check the spam folder daily to see what surprises Gmail has in store for you. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger groog...@gmail.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/7011c468-f85c-d12d-e939-4171d7117810%40gmail.com.
Re: [hugin-ptx] HEADS UP: Don't use gmail! (was: Control Point dialog features)
It is an endless battle: The ones that write spam try to evade the spam filters. The ones that write spam filters adapt their filters for that which causes the ones that write spam to adapt their spam to the filters... ...And there are many things that look like spam and aren't: Mailing lists, for example, send the same mail to many users. These mails might be sent from the same server as real spam (a spam Sender might want this to happen). They might send mails to mail accounts that no longer exist (which is another red flag for spam) and they might occasionally mention things like blue, pills and money. In the end the best a mail provider can do is to try to find a spot in which the spam filter Filters out about as many legit mails as it lets through spam ones. Or to not Filter anything out that might be even remotely legit. -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/DF09CF82-4BA6-457B-829A-65DE3D2731BC%40gmail.com.
Re: [hugin-ptx] HEADS UP: Don't use gmail! (was: Control Point dialog features)
On 2/6/22 20:09, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > It seems that Google is going over the top in trying to control spam, > and in the process it is rejecting valid mail. I'm seriously > considering giving up my Gmail account. If you have a Gmail account, > you should at least check the spam folder daily to see what surprises > Gmail has in store for you. A lot of email services are doing this. My alma mater uses Outlook Online, and about half of my spam folder was real email (and conversely, a lot of junk email made it through). I finally fixed this by using fetchmail to inject mail into my own mail server. A couple of important email messages I sent have also gotten lost. Junk email is a problem, but the cure (server-side junk filters that cannot be turned off) is worse than the disease. -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/9529c519-3c74-075f-bd4b-a802f3d25b85%40alum.mit.edu.
[hugin-ptx] HEADS UP: Don't use gmail! (was: Control Point dialog features)
I've been chasing up a mail configuration problem delivering mail to Gmail (hint: make sure you have an SPF record or similar), and in the process came across this message and about 30 more that were filed as spam: On Friday, 21 January 2022 at 10:34:06 -0800, johnfi...@gmail.com wrote: > I want to make a bunch of changes to the control point dialog. (end quote) I don't understand why; there's nothing obviously wrong with the message, and unlike the problems that Gmail caused for my third-party domain, both sender and mailing list are under the control of Google. There were two other threads, also sent by people with Gmail accounts, so maybe this is part of the problem. It seems that Google is going over the top in trying to control spam, and in the process it is rejecting valid mail. I'm seriously considering giving up my Gmail account. If you have a Gmail account, you should at least check the spam folder daily to see what surprises Gmail has in store for you. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger groog...@gmail.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/20220207010928.GG98887%40eureka.lemis.com. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
