Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

2011-06-02 Thread Harry van der Wolf
Hit Thomas

2011/6/2 T. Modes 

>
> PTBatcherGUI can search in a given directory (incl. subdirectories)
> for all images which are likely to belong to one panorama by looking
> in the EXIF data. (PTBatcherGUI, File->Search directory for..-
> >Images)
> Then the found panoramas are added to the assistant queue.
>
> > I agree more and more about switching to PTBatcher(Gui).
>
> One point to consider. Hugin_stitch_project fails on 10.5 only if it
> is started as a bundle inside a bundle. Hugin_stitch_project runs fine
> as stand alone program.
> PTBatcherGUI is currently a separate bundle, correct? But I fear, if
> you bundle PTBatcherGUI inside the Hugin bundle, the 10.5 users will
> get the same problem.
> So probably you would need to build 2 separate bundles (Hugin
> +PTBatcherGUI) and the user would have to install both of them. (But
> that's just a guess.)
>
>
Yes, you might be right about the stitching issue when PTBatcherGui would
have been part of Hugin.
For a stable release I always build two bundles: Hugin and PTBatcherGui.
For development builds I sometimes build PTBatcherGui as bundle in case
something in the structure has changed or when changes to PTBatcherGui
itself have been done.




> > Things that need to be thought about:
> > 1. As Gnome points out: PTBatcherGui doesn't start immediately. Could we
> add
> > some commandline switch like "--process_immediately" or whatever sounds
> > reasonably as parameter.
>
> Already there. Switch --batch or -b (see ptbatchergui --help for all
> options)
>
> > 2. If we make PTBatcherGui start automatically then what do we do with a
> > PTBatcherGui instance already running on a batch? Finish current project,
> > insert the "sent from Hugin, stich immediately" project in between, and
> > continue?
>
> If PTBatcherGUI is running, a new project will be added to the queue,
> it will be processed when the older one is finished.
>
> > 2a. Or do we use PTBatcher (not the Gui) for immediate processing?
>
> Both are using the *same* queue. Only the interface is different
> wxWidgets GUI vs. command line interface. (Beside PTBatcherGUI has
> some more features than PTBatcher) If PTBatcherGUI is running
> PTBatcher will only add the project to the queue and return
> immediately. (Only if no instance of PTBatcherGUI is running,
> PTBatcher will process the current queue on the command line.)
>
> > 3. I know that some users use PTBatcher(Gui) to run on a different
> machine
> > from the one they do theirt Hugin Gui work on. How to handle that?
>
> This is currently not automatically handled. They have to save the
> project on the one machine and add it to PTBatcherGUI on the other
> machine by hand. There is only communication between Hugin and
> PTBatcherGUI on the *same* machine.
>
> Thomas
>
>
You have pointed it out earlier: Read the documentation! It's even in the
help file of PTBatcherGui.
What's more. I think you had a good deal in working out some of these
improvements.

Harry

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[hugin-ptx] Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

2011-06-02 Thread T. Modes
Hi Harry,

On 2 Jun., 10:13, Harry van der Wolf  wrote:
> 2011/6/2 Gnome Nomad 
>
> > Bruno Postle wrote:
>
> > The batch processor can also identify likely projects from lists of photos,
> >> and will queue/process the alignment step as well as stitching.
>
> > Really
>
> +1 
> Can you explain this or is there "somewhere" info (link)? I know it can do
> the neccessary steps from (almost) start to finish, but can you really drop
> multiple series and will it process them? Or do I not understand correctly?
>

PTBatcherGUI can search in a given directory (incl. subdirectories)
for all images which are likely to belong to one panorama by looking
in the EXIF data. (PTBatcherGUI, File->Search directory for..-
>Images)
Then the found panoramas are added to the assistant queue.

> I agree more and more about switching to PTBatcher(Gui).

One point to consider. Hugin_stitch_project fails on 10.5 only if it
is started as a bundle inside a bundle. Hugin_stitch_project runs fine
as stand alone program.
PTBatcherGUI is currently a separate bundle, correct? But I fear, if
you bundle PTBatcherGUI inside the Hugin bundle, the 10.5 users will
get the same problem.
So probably you would need to build 2 separate bundles (Hugin
+PTBatcherGUI) and the user would have to install both of them. (But
that's just a guess.)

> Things that need to be thought about:
> 1. As Gnome points out: PTBatcherGui doesn't start immediately. Could we add
> some commandline switch like "--process_immediately" or whatever sounds
> reasonably as parameter.

Already there. Switch --batch or -b (see ptbatchergui --help for all
options)

> 2. If we make PTBatcherGui start automatically then what do we do with a
> PTBatcherGui instance already running on a batch? Finish current project,
> insert the "sent from Hugin, stich immediately" project in between, and
> continue?

If PTBatcherGUI is running, a new project will be added to the queue,
it will be processed when the older one is finished.

> 2a. Or do we use PTBatcher (not the Gui) for immediate processing?

Both are using the *same* queue. Only the interface is different
wxWidgets GUI vs. command line interface. (Beside PTBatcherGUI has
some more features than PTBatcher) If PTBatcherGUI is running
PTBatcher will only add the project to the queue and return
immediately. (Only if no instance of PTBatcherGUI is running,
PTBatcher will process the current queue on the command line.)

> 3. I know that some users use PTBatcher(Gui) to run on a different machine
> from the one they do theirt Hugin Gui work on. How to handle that?

This is currently not automatically handled. They have to save the
project on the one machine and add it to PTBatcherGUI on the other
machine by hand. There is only communication between Hugin and
PTBatcherGUI on the *same* machine.

Thomas

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[hugin-ptx] Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

2011-05-30 Thread Battle
Yes Harry.  I downloaded and used Hugin.app20110528.dmg
I got the clean test message window.  Clicked OK, and Hugin did its
thing correctly.
Seems to work fine.
Battle

On May 30, 12:43 pm, Harry van der Wolf  wrote:
> Hi Battle,
>
> 2011/5/30 Battle 
>
> > Harry,
> > This file works on 10.5.8 on a MacBook Pro.
> > I ran the pto both direct from hugin and from the PTGUIbatch on two
> > pto files.  One was a single image with perspective rectification
> > only.  The other was a 270MP final stitch output.
> > Both correctly directly from Hugin.
> > Battle
>
> Can you confirm that this is the  20110528 zip version?
>
> Harry

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

2011-05-30 Thread Harry van der Wolf
Hi Battle,

2011/5/30 Battle 

> Harry,
> This file works on 10.5.8 on a MacBook Pro.
> I ran the pto both direct from hugin and from the PTGUIbatch on two
> pto files.  One was a single image with perspective rectification
> only.  The other was a 270MP final stitch output.
> Both correctly directly from Hugin.
> Battle
>
>
Can you confirm that this is the  20110528 zip version?

Harry

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

2011-05-30 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Battle  wrote:

> Harry,
> This file works on 10.5.8 on a MacBook Pro.
> I ran the pto both direct from hugin and from the PTGUIbatch on two
> pto files.  One was a single image with perspective rectification
> only.  The other was a 270MP final stitch output.
> Both correctly directly from Hugin.

  I have not as yet heard back from Harry about if his zipped test
file is the same one as is located on his download site listed as
2011.0-RC2.  Do you possibly know the answer to that question?  Have
you tried both of those, and if not, which one have you tested as
reported above?  Thanks.

  Steve

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[hugin-ptx] Re: 2011.0: To release or not to release, that's the question

2011-05-30 Thread Battle
Harry,
This file works on 10.5.8 on a MacBook Pro.
I ran the pto both direct from hugin and from the PTGUIbatch on two
pto files.  One was a single image with perspective rectification
only.  The other was a 270MP final stitch output.
Both correctly directly from Hugin.
Battle

On May 29, 3:37 pm, Harry van der Wolf  wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> 2011/5/29 phartz...@gmail.com 
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Harry van der Wolf 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Last Friday I released a version for a selected set of users all on 10.5
> > to
> > > see whether Thomas' last idea might fix the stitching error.
> > > I did not get any feedback yet. Off course it's short time after Friday
> > > evening with people probably out during the weekend (making pano's?).
>
> >   I will download, check and report upon the stitching function of
> > this specially compiled 2011,0 release candidate.  I did obtain the
> > initial 2011.0 that you offered, and as you pointed out, that one did
> > require using the batch processor to produce a stitch under OS X
> > 10.5.6.
>
> >  Steve
>
> Sorry I had not added you to the list of selected users.
> Please find it 
> here:http://hugin.panotools.org/testing/hugin/Hugin.app20110528.zip
>
> Harry

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