Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Any way to reuse control points on a different set of images?
Oh, forgot to mention. I use panomatic 90% of the time. nick On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: > On Tue 20-Apr-2010 at 13:54 -0400, Nicolas Pelletier wrote: > > [snip hugin failing to set control points with >120 photos] > > > Just double checked. Biggest I made was 135 images. I had some problems >> but >> that was because that one was handheld :P Hugin took it all in! >> > > There is a problem with long-command-lines and Windows that messed-up the > way we used to call control point generators on Windows. > > This shouldn't now be a problem if you are using the up-to-date > autopano-sift-c settings - As the list of files is now supplied in a project > file and not on a command-line. > > -- > Bruno > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Any way to reuse control points on a different set of images?
On Tue 20-Apr-2010 at 13:54 -0400, Nicolas Pelletier wrote: [snip hugin failing to set control points with >120 photos] Just double checked. Biggest I made was 135 images. I had some problems but that was because that one was handheld :P Hugin took it all in! There is a problem with long-command-lines and Windows that messed-up the way we used to call control point generators on Windows. This shouldn't now be a problem if you are using the up-to-date autopano-sift-c settings - As the list of files is now supplied in a project file and not on a command-line. -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Any way to reuse control points on a different set of images?
That... I'm not aware. I'll keep that in the back of my mind as something to try... The biggest I made were... Just double checked. Biggest I made was 135 images. I had some problems but that was because that one was handheld :P Hugin took it all in! nick On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:15 PM, RickyRicky wrote: > Nicolas, > > That sounds like an awesome option except... Isn't there a limit to > the number of photos that can be in hugin? Something like 120? I've > hit it before which was one of the main reasons I never tried anything > even close to what you're suggesting below... > > Thanks, > Ricardo > > On Apr 19, 7:08 am, Nicolas Pelletier > wrote: > > I don't think it's in the official releases yet, but there is the new > stack > > feature. > > > > Basically, all the images that are different exposures of the same image, > > you assign them the same stack number. Then, whatever the optimization > you > > do, all of them will end up at exactly the same place. > > > > Output your panorama with all exposure layers, and you get all your pano > for > > HDR. > > > > IMHO, it's the best option (and the one I currently use). > > > > nick > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:16 PM, RickyRicky wrote: > > > cri, > > > > > I had originally renamed all my different exposure files to match up > > > with the original exposure... That's not too bad but I think your > > > "legit" method of just applying a different exposure's .pto file as a > > > template is a bit better and more convenient. > > > > > I'll let you know how it works out! > > > > > BTW - Yes... Using a great tripod is a must when your panorama is 240 > > > photos.. =) > > > > > Ricky > > > > > On Apr 16, 2:33 pm, cri wrote: > > > > Have you tried to use a template? Just load all the photo at the same > > > > exposure level and go through all the needed passages to get the > final > > > > panorama. Then save the project as pto file. Now start a new poject, > > > > load all the images at a different exposure level and select > "File->Apply > > > template". In the dialog select the previously saved pto file > > > > > > and you will get all the parameters loaded on the new exposure level > > > > images. In this way you could save a panorama for every exposure > > > > level. > > > > To get the best out of this procedure you need to take all the images > > > > from a tripod. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Cristian > > > > > > On 16 Apr, 20:52, RickyRicky wrote: > > > > > > > Gents, > > > > > > > I have shot a few high resolution night time 180 degree panorama > but I > > > > > think I've been doing it wrong. > > > > > > > My typical workflow is to shoot from three to six images of each > > > > > frame, then to HDR or exposure blend these photos together and THEN > to > > > > > HDR the resulting images. > > > > > > > That workflow works but if you want to make any changes to how the > > > > > image is HDR'ed or exposure blended, it means you have to start all > > > > > over again from the beginning. > > > > > > > I've been thinking, why don't I create panoramas from each > bracketed > > > > > exposure using hugin, and then HDR and/or exposure blend the > resulting > > > > > panoramas? > > > > > > > The problem is.. Hugin will most likely not select the same > control > > > > > points for the various different panoramas since at varying > exposures, > > > > > some control points will be more visible, and others will not. > > > > > > > Is there any way to force hugin to use the same control points for > a > > > > > different set of images? > > > > > > > Thanks for any help! I'm happy to show my work if y'all are > > > > > interested in seeing what I've been working on so far... > > > > > > >http://www.rickyricky.net/Photography/Panoramas/My-Panoramas > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Ricardo Meleschi > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > > > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > > >http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > > > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > > >http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "hugin a
[hugin-ptx] Re: Any way to reuse control points on a different set of images?
Nicolas, That sounds like an awesome option except... Isn't there a limit to the number of photos that can be in hugin? Something like 120? I've hit it before which was one of the main reasons I never tried anything even close to what you're suggesting below... Thanks, Ricardo On Apr 19, 7:08 am, Nicolas Pelletier wrote: > I don't think it's in the official releases yet, but there is the new stack > feature. > > Basically, all the images that are different exposures of the same image, > you assign them the same stack number. Then, whatever the optimization you > do, all of them will end up at exactly the same place. > > Output your panorama with all exposure layers, and you get all your pano for > HDR. > > IMHO, it's the best option (and the one I currently use). > > nick > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:16 PM, RickyRicky wrote: > > cri, > > > I had originally renamed all my different exposure files to match up > > with the original exposure... That's not too bad but I think your > > "legit" method of just applying a different exposure's .pto file as a > > template is a bit better and more convenient. > > > I'll let you know how it works out! > > > BTW - Yes... Using a great tripod is a must when your panorama is 240 > > photos.. =) > > > Ricky > > > On Apr 16, 2:33 pm, cri wrote: > > > Have you tried to use a template? Just load all the photo at the same > > > exposure level and go through all the needed passages to get the final > > > panorama. Then save the project as pto file. Now start a new poject, > > > load all the images at a different exposure level and select "File->Apply > > template". In the dialog select the previously saved pto file > > > > and you will get all the parameters loaded on the new exposure level > > > images. In this way you could save a panorama for every exposure > > > level. > > > To get the best out of this procedure you need to take all the images > > > from a tripod. > > > > Regards > > > Cristian > > > > On 16 Apr, 20:52, RickyRicky wrote: > > > > > Gents, > > > > > I have shot a few high resolution night time 180 degree panorama but I > > > > think I've been doing it wrong. > > > > > My typical workflow is to shoot from three to six images of each > > > > frame, then to HDR or exposure blend these photos together and THEN to > > > > HDR the resulting images. > > > > > That workflow works but if you want to make any changes to how the > > > > image is HDR'ed or exposure blended, it means you have to start all > > > > over again from the beginning. > > > > > I've been thinking, why don't I create panoramas from each bracketed > > > > exposure using hugin, and then HDR and/or exposure blend the resulting > > > > panoramas? > > > > > The problem is.. Hugin will most likely not select the same control > > > > points for the various different panoramas since at varying exposures, > > > > some control points will be more visible, and others will not. > > > > > Is there any way to force hugin to use the same control points for a > > > > different set of images? > > > > > Thanks for any help! I'm happy to show my work if y'all are > > > > interested in seeing what I've been working on so far... > > > > >http://www.rickyricky.net/Photography/Panoramas/My-Panoramas > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ricardo Meleschi > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > >http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > .com> > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > >http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > .com> > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > >http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > .com> > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > A list of frequently asked questions i
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Any way to reuse control points on a different set of images?
I don't think it's in the official releases yet, but there is the new stack feature. Basically, all the images that are different exposures of the same image, you assign them the same stack number. Then, whatever the optimization you do, all of them will end up at exactly the same place. Output your panorama with all exposure layers, and you get all your pano for HDR. IMHO, it's the best option (and the one I currently use). nick On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:16 PM, RickyRicky wrote: > cri, > > I had originally renamed all my different exposure files to match up > with the original exposure... That's not too bad but I think your > "legit" method of just applying a different exposure's .pto file as a > template is a bit better and more convenient. > > I'll let you know how it works out! > > BTW - Yes... Using a great tripod is a must when your panorama is 240 > photos.. =) > > Ricky > > On Apr 16, 2:33 pm, cri wrote: > > Have you tried to use a template? Just load all the photo at the same > > exposure level and go through all the needed passages to get the final > > panorama. Then save the project as pto file. Now start a new poject, > > load all the images at a different exposure level and select "File->Apply > template". In the dialog select the previously saved pto file > > > > and you will get all the parameters loaded on the new exposure level > > images. In this way you could save a panorama for every exposure > > level. > > To get the best out of this procedure you need to take all the images > > from a tripod. > > > > Regards > > Cristian > > > > On 16 Apr, 20:52, RickyRicky wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gents, > > > > > I have shot a few high resolution night time 180 degree panorama but I > > > think I've been doing it wrong. > > > > > My typical workflow is to shoot from three to six images of each > > > frame, then to HDR or exposure blend these photos together and THEN to > > > HDR the resulting images. > > > > > That workflow works but if you want to make any changes to how the > > > image is HDR'ed or exposure blended, it means you have to start all > > > over again from the beginning. > > > > > I've been thinking, why don't I create panoramas from each bracketed > > > exposure using hugin, and then HDR and/or exposure blend the resulting > > > panoramas? > > > > > The problem is.. Hugin will most likely not select the same control > > > points for the various different panoramas since at varying exposures, > > > some control points will be more visible, and others will not. > > > > > Is there any way to force hugin to use the same control points for a > > > different set of images? > > > > > Thanks for any help! I'm happy to show my work if y'all are > > > interested in seeing what I've been working on so far... > > > > >http://www.rickyricky.net/Photography/Panoramas/My-Panoramas > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ricardo Meleschi > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: Any way to reuse control points on a different set of images?
cri, I had originally renamed all my different exposure files to match up with the original exposure... That's not too bad but I think your "legit" method of just applying a different exposure's .pto file as a template is a bit better and more convenient. I'll let you know how it works out! BTW - Yes... Using a great tripod is a must when your panorama is 240 photos.. =) Ricky On Apr 16, 2:33 pm, cri wrote: > Have you tried to use a template? Just load all the photo at the same > exposure level and go through all the needed passages to get the final > panorama. Then save the project as pto file. Now start a new poject, > load all the images at a different exposure level and select "File->Apply > template". In the dialog select the previously saved pto file > > and you will get all the parameters loaded on the new exposure level > images. In this way you could save a panorama for every exposure > level. > To get the best out of this procedure you need to take all the images > from a tripod. > > Regards > Cristian > > On 16 Apr, 20:52, RickyRicky wrote: > > > > > > > Gents, > > > I have shot a few high resolution night time 180 degree panorama but I > > think I've been doing it wrong. > > > My typical workflow is to shoot from three to six images of each > > frame, then to HDR or exposure blend these photos together and THEN to > > HDR the resulting images. > > > That workflow works but if you want to make any changes to how the > > image is HDR'ed or exposure blended, it means you have to start all > > over again from the beginning. > > > I've been thinking, why don't I create panoramas from each bracketed > > exposure using hugin, and then HDR and/or exposure blend the resulting > > panoramas? > > > The problem is.. Hugin will most likely not select the same control > > points for the various different panoramas since at varying exposures, > > some control points will be more visible, and others will not. > > > Is there any way to force hugin to use the same control points for a > > different set of images? > > > Thanks for any help! I'm happy to show my work if y'all are > > interested in seeing what I've been working on so far... > > >http://www.rickyricky.net/Photography/Panoramas/My-Panoramas > > > Thanks, > > Ricardo Meleschi > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > A list of frequently asked questions is available > > at:http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > A list of frequently asked questions is available > at:http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: Any way to reuse control points on a different set of images?
Have you tried to use a template? Just load all the photo at the same exposure level and go through all the needed passages to get the final panorama. Then save the project as pto file. Now start a new poject, load all the images at a different exposure level and select "File- >Apply template". In the dialog select the previously saved pto file and you will get all the parameters loaded on the new exposure level images. In this way you could save a panorama for every exposure level. To get the best out of this procedure you need to take all the images from a tripod. Regards Cristian On 16 Apr, 20:52, RickyRicky wrote: > Gents, > > I have shot a few high resolution night time 180 degree panorama but I > think I've been doing it wrong. > > My typical workflow is to shoot from three to six images of each > frame, then to HDR or exposure blend these photos together and THEN to > HDR the resulting images. > > That workflow works but if you want to make any changes to how the > image is HDR'ed or exposure blended, it means you have to start all > over again from the beginning. > > I've been thinking, why don't I create panoramas from each bracketed > exposure using hugin, and then HDR and/or exposure blend the resulting > panoramas? > > The problem is.. Hugin will most likely not select the same control > points for the various different panoramas since at varying exposures, > some control points will be more visible, and others will not. > > Is there any way to force hugin to use the same control points for a > different set of images? > > Thanks for any help! I'm happy to show my work if y'all are > interested in seeing what I've been working on so far... > > http://www.rickyricky.net/Photography/Panoramas/My-Panoramas > > Thanks, > Ricardo Meleschi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > A list of frequently asked questions is available > at:http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
