Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-20 Thread Harry van der Wolf
2011/10/19 Ian Tindale ian.tind...@gmail.com

 Aha - another hackintosher, like myself, then. (some of mine are real
 Apples, some are not). (The ipad is). I like open source because it's free,
 but I also like pirated software for the same reason. Beyond that I find the
 whole open source thing a bit quaint and pointless. I'd rather have
 something well designed and usable, and in principle, that's what I pay
 apple to do - to do my thinking and deciding for me because that's what
 they're supposed to be good at. Having said that, I'm typing this in Linux,
 which I always have at least a machine for, and usually take a Linux usb
 drive or two with me in case I have to use a foreign computer. I just get
 impatient with the open source prevalent attitude toward not regarding
 usability and proper project management of the releases matching the
 documentation (if any) as important. But then, if there's no competitive
 commercial drive, that's what you get - at worse, a hobby, at best, a mimic.
 Except now and then, there's something truly innovative that pokes out of
 the sea of copycat hobby programs - really worthwhile game-changers, such as
 the high profile open source projects like Firefox; Open/Libre Office; KDE
 (which I don't use, it's confusing, but I respect its disruptive
 innovation). Hugin is of course another project I'm always keen to point out
 to people I interact with.



I'm not a hackintoscher. I'm on a macbook pro. I don't use pirated software.
I use the MacOSX apps (and pay for the updates if relevant), open source
software and a few paid apps.
I used hackintosch on my other laptop for a very short period, just because
of the technical fun of it, now it's 100% ubuntu again (or lubuntu or
opensuse or netbsd or fedora or reactos or whatever interests me at that
moment).

I'm not only for open source and I don't think that in general open source
is less than well designed and usable commercial software.
I'm on apple and on macosx as I like it very much. I just don't like
apple's  other principles.

Harry

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-19 Thread Gnome Nomad

Ian Tindale wrote:

There is a fourth option though. Obviously of the ones you mention, the 
installer is the main option of interest to most people, but 
increasingly there's the 'app store' mode of obtaining software.


Appstore? Oh, you mean that commercialization to work around the lack 
of a package management system in Windows? ;-)


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-19 Thread Ian Tindale
I know nothing about Windows, having never used it in my life. I didn't
realise they had such a concept - last time I used an IBM PC clone it was
running a green screen text monitor. I'm talking of course about the app
store on my normal computer.

On 19 October 2011 10:21, Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ian Tindale wrote:

  There is a fourth option though. Obviously of the ones you mention, the
 installer is the main option of interest to most people, but increasingly
 there's the 'app store' mode of obtaining software.


 Appstore? Oh, you mean that commercialization to work around the lack of
 a package management system in Windows? ;-)


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-19 Thread Harry van der Wolf
Hi Ian,

Definitely no flame towards you but my point of view about the apple app
store.

I have no personal experience with the appstore for Apple and that's because
I'm completely against it for a couple of reasons:
- You have to register and logon. No free access like in the google market.
Apple (big brother) is watching you.
- It's completely focused (not restricted) to closed source, commercial
software.
- You have to comply with all kinds of Apple restrictions (like no flash for
iPad and so on). Hugin is about free open source and going where we want it
to go.
- app store is only available to snow Leopard and newer: No Tiger and
Leopard, still 20% of the Hugin users.
- We have to go through an acceptance test by Apple. As such this is not an
issue as it safeguards the users for faulty or even malicious software, but
it slows down our progress.


For development builds it is (off course) not suitable, but that's obvious.


As a side note and maybe off topic: I used to be a complete linx user but
since 2007 I'm a great fan of the MacOSX operating system (but still using
linux). I'm fully against all kind of closed source, closed company
initiatives Apple further has. I will never buy an ipad, iphone or ipod.
It's so completely against the open source character

kind regards,
Harry



2011/10/19 Ian Tindale ian.tind...@gmail.com

 I know nothing about Windows, having never used it in my life. I didn't
 realise they had such a concept - last time I used an IBM PC clone it was
 running a green screen text monitor. I'm talking of course about the app
 store on my normal computer.

 On 19 October 2011 10:21, Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ian Tindale wrote:

  There is a fourth option though. Obviously of the ones you mention, the
 installer is the main option of interest to most people, but increasingly
 there's the 'app store' mode of obtaining software.


 Appstore? Oh, you mean that commercialization to work around the lack of
 a package management system in Windows? ;-)


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-19 Thread Ian Tindale
Aha - another hackintosher, like myself, then. (some of mine are real
Apples, some are not). (The ipad is). I like open source because it's free,
but I also like pirated software for the same reason. Beyond that I find the
whole open source thing a bit quaint and pointless. I'd rather have
something well designed and usable, and in principle, that's what I pay
apple to do - to do my thinking and deciding for me because that's what
they're supposed to be good at. Having said that, I'm typing this in Linux,
which I always have at least a machine for, and usually take a Linux usb
drive or two with me in case I have to use a foreign computer. I just get
impatient with the open source prevalent attitude toward not regarding
usability and proper project management of the releases matching the
documentation (if any) as important. But then, if there's no competitive
commercial drive, that's what you get - at worse, a hobby, at best, a mimic.
Except now and then, there's something truly innovative that pokes out of
the sea of copycat hobby programs - really worthwhile game-changers, such as
the high profile open source projects like Firefox; Open/Libre Office; KDE
(which I don't use, it's confusing, but I respect its disruptive
innovation). Hugin is of course another project I'm always keen to point out
to people I interact with.

On 19 October 2011 17:08, Harry van der Wolf hvdw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ian,

 Definitely no flame towards you but my point of view about the apple app
 store.

 I have no personal experience with the appstore for Apple and that's
 because I'm completely against it for a couple of reasons:
 - You have to register and logon. No free access like in the google market.
 Apple (big brother) is watching you.
 - It's completely focused (not restricted) to closed source, commercial
 software.
 - You have to comply with all kinds of Apple restrictions (like no flash
 for iPad and so on). Hugin is about free open source and going where we want
 it to go.
 - app store is only available to snow Leopard and newer: No Tiger and
 Leopard, still 20% of the Hugin users.
 - We have to go through an acceptance test by Apple. As such this is not an
 issue as it safeguards the users for faulty or even malicious software, but
 it slows down our progress.


 For development builds it is (off course) not suitable, but that's obvious.


 As a side note and maybe off topic: I used to be a complete linx user but
 since 2007 I'm a great fan of the MacOSX operating system (but still using
 linux). I'm fully against all kind of closed source, closed company
 initiatives Apple further has. I will never buy an ipad, iphone or ipod.
 It's so completely against the open source character

 kind regards,
 Harry




 2011/10/19 Ian Tindale ian.tind...@gmail.com

 I know nothing about Windows, having never used it in my life. I didn't
 realise they had such a concept - last time I used an IBM PC clone it was
 running a green screen text monitor. I'm talking of course about the app
 store on my normal computer.

 On 19 October 2011 10:21, Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ian Tindale wrote:

  There is a fourth option though. Obviously of the ones you mention, the
 installer is the main option of interest to most people, but increasingly
 there's the 'app store' mode of obtaining software.


 Appstore? Oh, you mean that commercialization to work around the lack
 of a package management system in Windows? ;-)


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[hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-16 Thread T. Modes
See ticket: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/717944
 for a workaround

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[hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-16 Thread Roy Wiggins
Hm, so the suggestion is to use only one core? I think I tried
changing down to 1 in the GUI, and had the same problem. Maybe that
change wasn't reported to cpfind; I'll try the command line argument.

On Oct 16, 9:14 am, T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de wrote:
 See ticket:https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/717944
  for a workaround

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[hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-15 Thread zarl
Hi Harry, I hope you monitor this thread...

That's quite interesting... the Hugin builds for OS X use an installer
only for some short time, before that users were able to just drag the
application from a dmg image to wherever one wished (or was able) to
drop Hugin. The latter could have been the user's desktop or his/her
own applications directory (in /Users/user/Applications/) whereas an
installer favours /Applications/ and asks the user for an admin pw.

Apart from the problem Roy runs into there is also one other feature
that I think of: it's a lot easier to test the behaviour of different
versions when I'm able to set up different folders with several
versions of hugin.

Is there an important reason why an installer is to be preferred? And
would it make sense to return to the former behaviour?

Carl

On 14 Okt., 21:30, Roy Wiggins roy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would run it under OSX, but it asks for admin privs to install Hugin
 there, which I don't have- it's a school lab machine. [...]

 On Oct 14, David Haberthür david.haberth...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Oct 13, Roy Wiggins roy...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'm running the latest Hugin on Windows 7, on a 2011 iMac.

  Really, Windows on an iMac?
  I suggest you use the newest hugin version fromhttp://hugin.sf.net
  Download on OS X. If you really are running it on Windows on an iMac I
  suppose there's a problem with memory management of your virtual
  machine or of Boot Camp...

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-15 Thread Harry van der Wolf
Hi,

2011/10/15 zarl c...@einem.net

 Hi Harry, I hope you monitor this thread...

 That's quite interesting... the Hugin builds for OS X use an installer
 only for some short time, before that users were able to just drag the
 application from a dmg image to wherever one wished (or was able) to
 drop Hugin. The latter could have been the user's desktop or his/her
 own applications directory (in /Users/user/Applications/) whereas an
 installer favours /Applications/ and asks the user for an admin pw.

 Apart from the problem Roy runs into there is also one other feature
 that I think of: it's a lot easier to test the behaviour of different
 versions when I'm able to set up different folders with several
 versions of hugin.

 Is there an important reason why an installer is to be preferred? And
 would it make sense to return to the former behaviour?

 Carl


I certainly monitor this thread and I already have been thinking about it.
The reason I switched to an installer is due to the fact that there is an
interdependability between the new set of apps being Hugin, PTBatcherGui and
calibrate_lens_gui. PTBatcherGui and calibrate_lens_gui almost 100% contain
of symlinks to the tools, libraries and frameworks inside the Hugin.app.
This to keep the total amound of data a few more megabytes bigger than only
the Hugin.app. With  independent  bundles they would all be the size of
the Hugin.app which is a waist of space in my eyes. The current small
PTBatchergui.app and calibrate_lens_gui.app should never be seperated from
the Hugin.app. Next to that I have the HuginTools folder containing the
symlinks to the command line tools inside the Hugin.app.
The easiest way to maintain this structure is to use an installer that takes
care of that.

Today I have been thinking of switching to the following concept, option 1:
- Use and maintain the installer only for Release versions to make sure that
these are properly installed and registered. This makes it possible to
prevent errors that could easily occur with beginners(*).
- The development bundles could be delivered as .dmgs containing a Hugin
folder with the apps and Hugintools folder inside it, next to the current
folders. This Hugin folder then can be dragged/copied to any place of your
liking.


The drawback of this setup is that when you double-click a .pto, it will be
opened by the registered version, which will be a release version. So when
working with a development version you have to open the app and then add
images or open a pto.

Another option (2):
- could be to (ab)use the copyright message when you open a dmg. You might
remember that about 1-2 years ago, the ControlPoint detector plugin dmgs for
autopano-sift-c came with a copyright/license message upon opening. This
could be built in again but now displaying something like copy the apps and
stuff together and don't mix versions in one folder, etc. etc..

Option 3: Do both like done on windows: give an installer and a zip (in our
case a dmg) and the user decides.

Please all give me feedback to options (1), (2) and (3), and if you have
more/better options, share them as well.

Hoi,
Harry


(*): Setting up the installer without administrator right means that you
can't install inside /Applications. The default installers are not so
flexible that it will automatically switch to administrator mode when
relevant and to user mode  when installing to some other location. Maybe a
few of the paid installers do but I don't want to use that.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-15 Thread AKS-Gmail-IMAP


2011/10/15 zarl c...@einem.net

 it's a lot easier to test the behaviour of different
versions when I'm able to set up different folders with several
versions of hugin.




Setting up different folders with different versions of hugin is what  
I am doing with each new issue. I initially thought the installer was  
cramping my style until I discovered the installer does not make this  
any more difficult than when there was not an installer. Although it  
may not be explicitly obvious when running the installer, the  
installer allows one to pick any folder or create any new folder for  
the install.


Allan

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: bad allocation error

2011-10-15 Thread Gnome Nomad

Harry van der Wolf wrote:

Option 3: Do both like done on windows: give an installer and a zip (in 
our case a dmg) and the user decides.


Please all give me feedback to options (1), (2) and (3), and if you have 
more/better options, share them as well.


I don't use OS X, but think #3 is best and most flexible. The download 
page can recommend the Installer version for beginners, the ZIPped DMG 
for advanced users, while making very clear that the features are 
identical in both.


Although #2 has its good points, too, for folk who like to test things 
and would presumably know how to associate PTO files in the OSX file 
system with their desired Hugin version.


If you download and compile Rosegarden (Linux music sequencer) source 
code, if you leave off the final make install line, you have a 
Rosegarden folder in your home folder. You can easily run Rosegarden 
from that, without disturbing any installed version of Rosegarden. I 
don't believe compiling Rosegarden requires admin priviledges, only 
doing a make install does.


Maybe original poster could ask the school to have Hugin added to their 
standard lab image?


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Bad Allocation error during stitching

2009-12-22 Thread Scott K
I did as you suggested, but to no avail. I set the canvas size down to
1000 by 287(much smaller than the original 24558 by 7047) and still
get the error.

I have done a panorama before (i think hugin .7) on the same computer
with no problem, it consisted of only about 40 images and was LDR, was
obviously smaller than the one I am working on right now but much
larger than how small I tried as per your suggestion. I will try to
make an LDR version of this one and see what happens.

On Dec 21, 4:37 pm, Bruno Postle br...@postle.net wrote:
 On Mon 21-Dec-2009 at 08:19 -0800, Scott K wrote:

 I have tried to create an HDR panorama from 118 pictures. It has found
 the cp easily, but when i try to view the pano, i get an error stating
 Bad allocation with the title being error during stitching.

 There are a few reports of this in the tracker, but no solution.  
 It only seems to effect Windows, and is related to large projects
 consuming a lot of memory.

 If it is nona that is crashing, can you make sure that 'saved
 cropped images' is set in the Stitcher tab - Nona - Options, and
 that the 'canvas size' is a reasonable pixel dimension for the
 panorama you expect to create?

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