Re: [hugin-ptx] Some practical Layout issues

2009-12-10 Thread Bruno Postle
On Wed 09-Dec-2009 at 10:54 +0100, Oskar Sander wrote:

 1. I would like to merge the lines manually in a program like Gimp 
 or Photoshop as different layers.  Is it possible to get the 
 negative space (black) of these uncropped lines as transparent 
 alpha channels straight out of hugin?  Maybe this is what already 
 happens in the output?

Yes, Hugin creates images with an alpha channel which is transparent 
in the 'black' areas.

 2. Some parts become more smeared than would be expected based on 
 the quality of the photos, see for example the mid section of this 
 strip [3].  I recollect a discussion here that if the overlap of 
 images are large, image fusion would be done rather than seam 
 blending. Is that so and is there a way to prioritize seam 
 blending?In this case when the images are not perfectly 
 aligned, the fusion would just smear.

No, by default Hugin always uses seam blending with enblend, it 
only uses fusion with enfuse when it finds well-aligned bracketed 
stacks.

Alternatively if you select 'blended then fused' it will seam blend 
images with a similar exposure, then fuse all these layers together 
at the end.

..but I don't think either of these things is happening here.   
Basically enblend isn't very good at joining a blurred photo with a 
sharp photo because it blends each level of detail separately - You 
get a sharp transition between small scale detail which is normally 
not noticeable.

This may be a case where you could try blending entirely with enfuse 
instead of enblend (just swap the executable names), the transitions 
between photos will be more noticeable but sharper photos will 
dominate.

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Bruno

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[hugin-ptx] Some practical Layout issues

2009-12-09 Thread Oskar Sander
I've been playing with the layout branch, using a test project with
UW-footage [1]

Because this project was done with too little overlap between lines, i have
made separate projects for each line first, to see if there is enough
overlap anywhere to run it through Hugin, the three first lines are shown
here [2].

It is obvious that the low contrast, low overlap and uneven focus, because
of motion blur and wrong focus setting makes this a very challenging project
to use Hugin and automated CP detection on. On the other hand, the detail
resolution of the end result is not that important, it is the overview that
is the goal, so some misfit is ok.

I have a couple of questions:
1. I would like to merge the lines manually in a program like Gimp or
Photoshop as different layers.  Is it possible to get the negative space
(black) of these uncropped lines as transparent alpha channels straight out
of hugin?  Maybe this is what already happens in the output?

2. Some parts become more smeared than would be expected based on the
quality of the photos, see for example the mid section of this strip [3].
I recollect a discussion here that if the overlap of images are large, image
fusion would be done rather than seam blending. Is that so and is there a
way to prioritize seam blending?In this case when the images are not
perfectly aligned, the fusion would just smear.

Cheers
OS

[1] 180 images in 11 roughly parallel vertical lines of the inside of a
hull.  Photographed with a NikonD300 and a 36mm eqv lens. (not wide enough
for this application!)
[2] http://picasaweb.google.se/oskar.sander/HuginMosaic#
[3] http://picasaweb.google.se/oskar.sander/HuginMosaic#5413164953226501218

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