[IAEP] Sugar update
Over the last two days, many people involved in developing and distributing Sugar have taken the opportunity provided by FUDCon to meet, talk, find common ground, and most importantly, find a way forward. We started off the day with a brief situation analysis lead by Walter Bender. Not much needs to change with the 'upstream' Sugar learning platform .84 release. Some hoped for features might not make it into the release. But, the release will happen on time. The bigger question is, 'What are we going to do about the upcoming 9.1 XOos release.' By XOos I am referring to the customized version of Fedora that OLPC was optimizing for the XO. A group of Sugar developers, past and present OLPC employees, and members of Fedora community spent a rather long and exhausting day with GregDek sorting out the difference between XOos and stock Fedora. By leveraging our strengths, and admitting our weakness, we can release Xoos 9.1 as a custom Fedora spin under the standard Fedora release process. Dependencies need to be pruned. Patches need to be pushed upstream. And again, some things may not make the quickly approaching feature freezes. Most importantly, the release will happen. Thanks Fedora. David ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] XOCamp diplomas? + beg for housing
ok, our couch is taken up by jameson (and other folks the other nights o the week)... others pls continue updating that page with couch info! cheers, SJ On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Brian Jordan wrote: > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> 2. Housing beg >>> >>> I will be in Boston from the night of the 12th (Monday, arriving on >>> a late train) to that of the 17th (leaving by train on the morning >>> of the 18th). I am confident that I can, if necessary, find housing >>> independently of this list; but it would be nicer to be staying with >>> other XO people. If anybody has a couch/room available, please let >>> me know privately. Thanks. > >We need an [[XO couchsurfing]] page. I'll get back to you on the >availability of our Cambridge couch. Please post to the list rather than privately - or at least keep me in the loop too. :-) >>> >>> Hey, it's a big couch (-: Jonas, I take it you need a place too? >> >> I and Andrius Kulikauskus, too. >> >>> Please update with your own couch info: >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_couchsurfing >> >> When is "R" night? >> > > Thursday (as in MTWRF) > >>> SJ >>> ___ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name >> And Children are my nation. >> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Aiban's thoughts on SL funding/bounties
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Mel Chua wrote: > There was a comment on my blog post I thought folks might be interested > in (from http://blog.melchua.com/2009/01/08/melavailabilityfree/). > > SLOBS might need to do the first, as I imagine #1 would involve The > Legal Paperwork Stuff, but #2 and #3 can be community, for sure. > > Thoughts? > > -- > > Good for you. But no need to limit this new opportunity to exclusively a > voluntary role. For people like me, it is now easier to determine where > my OLPC related donations and mindshare should go to in order to support > OSS-education. More opportunities are opening up. It is not only XOs and Sugar that we need to support, but o Infrastructure, especially electricity and Internet o Economic opportunity, such as jobs for graduates, and also funding for businesses where the students can give IT assistance to parents and others in the community o The whole new "post-Gutenberg" class of digital teaching materials that we are just starting to invent o What they call "capacity building" in development jargon, that is, training locals to take over all aspects of the development work > Some ideas: > 1) Sugarlabs should create a way to become a supporting "member." One > time donations are great, but harder to budget payroll on for an > enthusiastic team of developers. Plus, it gives donors bragging rights > when they pull out their "membership card" to show their buddies. Good idea. Other organizations need to do this, too. > 2) How about an activity bounties page? I know some people who would be > more than happy to put a bounty on for improvements on the video chat > activity. Andrius Kulikauskus of Minciu Sodas Laboratory for independent thinkers has previously proposed $100 projects to be done by people in developing nations, and funded several. > 3) OLPC will happen, and very soon, but probably not through the XO > brand (at least not exclusively). Pixel Qi will be an important brand for this. > OSS and cheap hardware will be key to > this, and it will not be limited to 3rd world countries. Seems like a > nice niche for consulting. I know who I would NOT be calling if I happen > to be sponsoring a school to establish OSS based learning. Let the world > know you are available and you might be pleasantly surprised. Earth Treasury would like to create an integrated development program including OSS-based learning and the other elements mentioned above, for a start. Further ideas welcome. We propose to create this program and offer it to governments for way cheaper than the usual suspects in the consulting business. > Anyway, I strongly believe that history will show this is all for the > better for all of us. Cheers! Given that Nicholas Negroponte is able to see some of his faults as a manager, but apparently incapable of doing anything effective about them, you may be right. > By Aibun on Jan 8, 2009 | Edit > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Techteam] Moving on, moving forward.
Eben, I will greatly miss seeing you every week. The Sugar motivations and design ideals have been some of my favorite OLPC discussions. If anything I will make an effort to be more involved -- in particular I want to see 'accessibility' and finding the best metrics for it regain some pride of place and draw stronger support from that community. As for contacts and opportunities, we had such a wealth of talent; it seems an 'xolpc' site/channel for discussing opportunities and new projects might be in order. SJ On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > To those who remain at OLPC, thank you for being part of a fantastic > and dedicated team, of which I'm proud to have been a member. I wish > all of you the best in whatever lies ahead there. I also know that > many of you have shared in enthusiasm for Sugar, and many have great > ideas that would be greatly missed if forgotten. I hope that, despite > OLPC's release of Sugar to the community, those of you continuing with > OLPC can find time to remain in touch with that community and continue > to bring your talent and ideas to the project. > > Finally, to those who will also be leaving OLPC tomorrow, I wish you > all the best in the future, and hope that you, like me, can be as > happy to have been a part of this project. > > - Eben > > > PS. Of course, if anyone has contacts or knows of opportunities in the > design community (interface, interaction, experience, graphic, web, or > otherwise) I'd be more than happy to be given some pointers as I try > to find my next direction. Thanks. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] XOCamp diplomas? + beg for housing
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> 2. Housing beg >> >> I will be in Boston from the night of the 12th (Monday, arriving on >> a late train) to that of the 17th (leaving by train on the morning >> of the 18th). I am confident that I can, if necessary, find housing >> independently of this list; but it would be nicer to be staying with >> other XO people. If anybody has a couch/room available, please let >> me know privately. Thanks. We need an [[XO couchsurfing]] page. I'll get back to you on the availability of our Cambridge couch. >>> >>> Please post to the list rather than privately - or at least keep me in >>> the loop too. :-) >> >> Hey, it's a big couch (-: Jonas, I take it you need a place too? > > I and Andrius Kulikauskus, too. > >> Please update with your own couch info: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_couchsurfing > > When is "R" night? > Thursday (as in MTWRF) >> SJ >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > > -- > Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name > And Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Aiban's thoughts on SL funding/bounties
There was a comment on my blog post I thought folks might be interested in (from http://blog.melchua.com/2009/01/08/melavailabilityfree/). SLOBS might need to do the first, as I imagine #1 would involve The Legal Paperwork Stuff, but #2 and #3 can be community, for sure. Thoughts? -- Good for you. But no need to limit this new opportunity to exclusively a voluntary role. For people like me, it is now easier to determine where my OLPC related donations and mindshare should go to in order to support OSS-education. Some ideas: 1) Sugarlabs should create a way to become a supporting “member.” One time donations are great, but harder to budget payroll on for an enthusiastic team of developers. Plus, it gives donors bragging rights when they pull out their “membership card” to show their buddies. 2) How about an activity bounties page? I know some people who would be more than happy to put a bounty on for improvements on the video chat activity. 3) OLPC will happen, and very soon, but probably not through the XO brand (at least not exclusively). OSS and cheap hardware will be key to this, and it will not be limited to 3rd world countries. Seems like a nice niche for consulting. I know who I would NOT be calling if I happen to be sponsoring a school to establish OSS based learning. Let the world know you are available and you might be pleasantly surprised. Anyway, I strongly believe that history will show this is all for the better for all of us. Cheers! By Aibun on Jan 8, 2009 | Edit ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] FOSDEM'09 & Community Meetup
Dear all, OLPC Europe kindly agreed to allow us to use their facilities for the community meetup! :-) Please add your name to the list at http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Events/FOSDEM_2009 by January 31st if you're planning to attend and (if you're using a nickname on the SugarLabs wiki) send me your full name offlist since name badges are required to get to the offices (it's in a secure facility). Also, I will be booking my flight to Brussels today... Looking forward to seeing you there. Cheers, Christoph Tomeu Vizoso schrieb: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 04:47, Christoph Derndorfer > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> plans are underway when it comes to representing OLPC / Sugar at >> FOSDEM'09 (http://www.fosdem.org/2009/) taking place in Brussels >> (Belgium) on the weekend of February 7... >> >> Also the idea to have a community meetup in the Brussels on the day >> before FOSDEM has been floated and it sounds like there's enough >> interest to really make it happen. >> >> I've started collecting some information on >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Events/FOSDEM_2009 - please add >> your thoughts, comments and ideas there or discuss them on the list. > > Added myself and have proposed talks during the FOSDEM to the GNOME > and Fedora dev rooms. > > To the people who plan to attend that extra day around FOSDEM, what > would you like to see discussed? Also, do people prefer talks, > workshops, round tables, ... ? > > Thanks, > > Tomeu > -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] XOCamp diplomas? + beg for housing
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > 2. Housing beg > > I will be in Boston from the night of the 12th (Monday, arriving on > a late train) to that of the 17th (leaving by train on the morning > of the 18th). I am confident that I can, if necessary, find housing > independently of this list; but it would be nicer to be staying with > other XO people. If anybody has a couch/room available, please let > me know privately. Thanks. >>> >>>We need an [[XO couchsurfing]] page. I'll get back to you on the >>>availability of our Cambridge couch. >> >> Please post to the list rather than privately - or at least keep me in >> the loop too. :-) > > Hey, it's a big couch (-: Jonas, I take it you need a place too? I and Andrius Kulikauskus, too. > Please update with your own couch info: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_couchsurfing When is "R" night? > SJ > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
