Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] Beta Image and Boot Helper - please TEST!
Just got a chance to burn this SoaS beta onto a USB drive (the Sugar branded one). Here are photos (ones with black background) of it running on an Intel Classmate 3: http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157613785006745/ So far: No sound from Speak. Playing OGG file produces some popping sounds. Zoom in doesn't work on Image Viewer. No wifi APs visible in Neighborhood. Mike On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Hi all, > > I think we might have some news you could be interested in: > > The SoaS Beta image has been composed and uploaded, so you can grab it > now already, even if it's scheduled for release tomorrow. The link is > here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-beta.iso > > Secondly, we've a boot helper now based on F11 ready! So if your BIOS > doesn't support booting from an USB key, you can just download this > additional iso, burn it to a CD and boot from it while having your USB > key plugged in: http://people.sugarlabs.org/sdz/soas-boot.iso > > Note that if you're going to use the boot helper, your USB key (or other > device) needs to be named FEDORA. This is really a requirement! Both the > liveusb-creator and the livecd-iso-to-disk script support this now. The > latter one changes this automatically when being run with the --format > argument (this removes all your data on the key, though). You can grab a > new version here: http://people.sugarlabs.org/sdz/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh > > Please test this combination, as it's an important part to get SoaS > working on older hardware! Finally, if somebody could create a CD label > for the boot helper disk, this would be really great! > > Thanks and happy testing! > --Sebastian > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Gnash 0.8.5 rocks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The newly released Gnash 0.8.5 works nicely for me - I have now watched a youtube video online for the first time ever (I've used clive till now). And the british mikmik webdesign website that interests my girlfriend works too. The new release should contain improved ways to optimizxe for slow hardware (e.g. XOs and netbooks) - I have no experience in that, however. For those of you using Debian but the stable release (Lenny) instead of unstable (Sid) like me, I have backportet the new Gnash for i386 and amd64. Add to /etc/apt/sources.lst the line below, if you want it: deb http://debian.jones.dk/ lenny gnash - Jonas P.S. I still dislike Flash for content and am very happy that Barry and others are now orking actively on W3C-standards-based tools instead. To me Gnash is important for old content but I strongly believe in a brighter future :-) - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknjqQkACgkQn7DbMsAkQLiUQQCfTo14Ilxw1ajqdMP5Mp2CvZSg EIQAnRNVqoiCdcK/+1SzRFJVk9nbnS9O =5kjN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Camp Kit
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 13:42 -0500, David Farning wrote: > I was thinking about putting together a 'Camp Kit' Consisting of a > wireless router, some cables, and a laptop to act as a proxy. > > With Bernie's help, for around $100 dollars, we can have a 'just > works' network where ever we go. Without it, we might have a 'kind of > works half the time' network. > > What else should the kit include? - usb-mobile broadband dongle - traffic shaping firewall (loading pages higher prio than downloads/torrents) - dual band ap 2.4 + 5 Ghz - maybe some wellsupported usb-wifi dongles - small switch - some ethernet cables For larger scale (50-500 people) check: http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek (ask me for details) cheers Marten > > david > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- http://martenvijn.nl Marten Vijn http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas Sugar on a Stick http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/ The Network Event Kit http://har2009.org 13th-16th August http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul - 2nd August ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook
Walter, youre brilliant. I used a Lexar 2 gig and created a stick. The Dell booted. BTW, my ex-husband bought this Dell new for $100 on some weird special (knowing him it was fatwallet). He bought 5 of them and made a nifty profit. It booted fine. It doesn't connect wirelessly but LAB (low and behold) it has a wired port so I hooked it in. Yep, connects to the internet. I downloaded Turtle Typing per Walter. OMG - it works! So I got a little bold and put my custom lesson in there thinking all the lessons would be lost when I reboot. I used one of the 3 USB ports and stuck in another thumb drive with the lessons on it (formatted FAT32) It wasn't lost! All lessons were still there when I rebooted the machine. BTW - it takes 45 seconds to boot on that stupid $100 Dell Inspiron 910. Looks pretty good but there are font issues and the screen cuts just a bit off on the bottom but otherwise very usable. Plus it is about 100 times faster. I can't stop. I'm not looking at the neighborhood. I suspect that doesn't work but I can't help myself. Thanks again, -Kathy -Original Message- From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Walter Bender Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 9:22 AM To: Kathy Pusztavari Cc: IAEP SugarLabs Subject: Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Kathy Pusztavari wrote: > Nevermind - I see now that the Fedora USB Creator says Browse OR Download. > Duh on my part. > > Boy it takes forever to download sometimes This is why I recommend downloading the image separately (and subsequently using the Browse option). > -Kathy > > -Original Message- > From: Walter Bender [mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:26 AM > To: Kathy Pusztavari > Cc: IAEP SugarLabs > Subject: Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Kathy Pusztavari > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I got the beta version to work on my PC (Dell Dimension 9200). Works >> great (and super fast) but I have a couple of newbie questions: >> >> 1. If I want to add an activity (Turtle Typing), is that possible? > > Depending upon which Beta you have, just use activities.sugarlabs.org > to download and install new activities. But Turtle Typing should be > already included, but perhaps not starred in the List View? > >> >> 2. I noticed that when looking at the thumb drive you don't see the >> actual directory structure. Does it set up a virtual directory >> structure upon booting? >> >> 3. Once booted, can I simply copy over the Turtle Typing directory >> structure into the virtual area? I suspect this would need to be >> done each time it is booted but I'm just wondering. I can see >> another thumb drives with the typing turles files on it... >> >> >> Now onto another question. Stop me if I'm not asking in the right place. >> >> I tried to load onto a Dell Inspiron 910 netbook that came loaded >> with Ubuntu. I created the 2 gig thumbdrive SoaS beta on an XP machine. >> When I used the Fedora Live USB Creator, I wasn't sure from the >> instructions what to choose in the pull down titled "Download Fedora". >> I'm not sure that is even required that you choose something there if >> you click on "Browse" and use the SoaS beta .iso. >> >> Questions: >> >> 1. Can I create the thumbdrive on an XP - not boot on the XP but >> directly try to boot it on the Ubuntu Dell netbook? I tried that and >> it will not boot. (yes, I changed the boot sequence to boot on USB). > > The most recent version of the USB Creator lets you access the Sugar > Beta from the pull-down menu on the upper-right of the window. But you > may well want to down load the image and use the Browse functionality > as per earlier versions. (In my experience it is faster and it lets > you make multiple > copies.) Don't forget to allocate some persistent storage. > > Once you have made the SoaS USB, it should work on any computer, > although the Beta is known to be finicky. > >> >> 2. Do I have to create the thumbdrive on the Ubuntu netbook using the >> instructions for Linux. I suck at Linux so I'm trying to avoid that >> as I'm not sure it has all required packages and I'm trying not to >> mess with the machine as it's not mine. > > No. The image you create on XP should work everywhere. If it doesn't, > perhaps try a different brand of USB. Not sure why that matters, but > it seems to. (I have had good luck with SanDisk for some reason.) > >> >> 3. Has anyone else successfully gotten a thumbdrive to boot on this >> particular Dell Inspiron 910 netbook running Ubuntu? >> >> 4. Should I try to create a bootable SD card instead? >> >> Overall I have only two questions that have been answered but hasn't >> gotten through my thick skull. >> >> 1. I realize that using Fedora 11 is part of SoaS-2 but is there an >> actual different SoaS .iso in the making for version 2 or is simply >> usi
Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Kathy Pusztavari wrote: > Nevermind - I see now that the Fedora USB Creator says Browse OR Download. > Duh on my part. > > Boy it takes forever to download sometimes This is why I recommend downloading the image separately (and subsequently using the Browse option). > -Kathy > > -Original Message- > From: Walter Bender [mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:26 AM > To: Kathy Pusztavari > Cc: IAEP SugarLabs > Subject: Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Kathy Pusztavari > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I got the beta version to work on my PC (Dell Dimension 9200). Works >> great (and super fast) but I have a couple of newbie questions: >> >> 1. If I want to add an activity (Turtle Typing), is that possible? > > Depending upon which Beta you have, just use activities.sugarlabs.org to > download and install new activities. But Turtle Typing should be already > included, but perhaps not starred in the List View? > >> >> 2. I noticed that when looking at the thumb drive you don't see the >> actual directory structure. Does it set up a virtual directory >> structure upon booting? >> >> 3. Once booted, can I simply copy over the Turtle Typing directory >> structure into the virtual area? I suspect this would need to be done >> each time it is booted but I'm just wondering. I can see another >> thumb drives with the typing turles files on it... >> >> >> Now onto another question. Stop me if I'm not asking in the right place. >> >> I tried to load onto a Dell Inspiron 910 netbook that came loaded with >> Ubuntu. I created the 2 gig thumbdrive SoaS beta on an XP machine. >> When I used the Fedora Live USB Creator, I wasn't sure from the >> instructions what to choose in the pull down titled "Download Fedora". >> I'm not sure that is even required that you choose something there if >> you click on "Browse" and use the SoaS beta .iso. >> >> Questions: >> >> 1. Can I create the thumbdrive on an XP - not boot on the XP but >> directly try to boot it on the Ubuntu Dell netbook? I tried that and >> it will not boot. (yes, I changed the boot sequence to boot on USB). > > The most recent version of the USB Creator lets you access the Sugar Beta > from the pull-down menu on the upper-right of the window. But you may well > want to down load the image and use the Browse functionality as per earlier > versions. (In my experience it is faster and it lets you make multiple > copies.) Don't forget to allocate some persistent storage. > > Once you have made the SoaS USB, it should work on any computer, although > the Beta is known to be finicky. > >> >> 2. Do I have to create the thumbdrive on the Ubuntu netbook using the >> instructions for Linux. I suck at Linux so I'm trying to avoid that as >> I'm not sure it has all required packages and I'm trying not to mess >> with the machine as it's not mine. > > No. The image you create on XP should work everywhere. If it doesn't, > perhaps try a different brand of USB. Not sure why that matters, but it > seems to. (I have had good luck with SanDisk for some reason.) > >> >> 3. Has anyone else successfully gotten a thumbdrive to boot on this >> particular Dell Inspiron 910 netbook running Ubuntu? >> >> 4. Should I try to create a bootable SD card instead? >> >> Overall I have only two questions that have been answered but hasn't >> gotten through my thick skull. >> >> 1. I realize that using Fedora 11 is part of SoaS-2 but is there an >> actual different SoaS .iso in the making for version 2 or is simply >> using the current beta of SoaS and loading it on Fedora 11 (using the >> Download Fedora on the right side of the Live USB Creator) >> automatically making it a SoaS-2 version. >> > > The base system of SoaS-2 is F11. For SoaS-1, it is F10. The system used to > create the USBs is not relevant, although the F9-based helper CD didn't work > for SoaS-2. The new helper CD is based on F10. > >> 2. What are the various "Download Fedora" options? What is an i686? >> When should the Sugar on a Stick option be used? I think this is a >> case of too many options and a newbie so sorry about that. > > You should just use the SoaS Beta. The rest of the options are not relevant > in this use case. > >> Sorry to be a bother and thanks for any help, > > Not a bother. > >> >> Kathy >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@list
Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook
Nevermind - I see now that the Fedora USB Creator says Browse OR Download. Duh on my part. Boy it takes forever to download sometimes -Kathy -Original Message- From: Walter Bender [mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:26 AM To: Kathy Pusztavari Cc: IAEP SugarLabs Subject: Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Kathy Pusztavari wrote: > Hi, > > I got the beta version to work on my PC (Dell Dimension 9200). Works > great (and super fast) but I have a couple of newbie questions: > > 1. If I want to add an activity (Turtle Typing), is that possible? Depending upon which Beta you have, just use activities.sugarlabs.org to download and install new activities. But Turtle Typing should be already included, but perhaps not starred in the List View? > > 2. I noticed that when looking at the thumb drive you don't see the > actual directory structure. Does it set up a virtual directory > structure upon booting? > > 3. Once booted, can I simply copy over the Turtle Typing directory > structure into the virtual area? I suspect this would need to be done > each time it is booted but I'm just wondering. I can see another > thumb drives with the typing turles files on it... > > > Now onto another question. Stop me if I'm not asking in the right place. > > I tried to load onto a Dell Inspiron 910 netbook that came loaded with > Ubuntu. I created the 2 gig thumbdrive SoaS beta on an XP machine. > When I used the Fedora Live USB Creator, I wasn't sure from the > instructions what to choose in the pull down titled "Download Fedora". > I'm not sure that is even required that you choose something there if > you click on "Browse" and use the SoaS beta .iso. > > Questions: > > 1. Can I create the thumbdrive on an XP - not boot on the XP but > directly try to boot it on the Ubuntu Dell netbook? I tried that and > it will not boot. (yes, I changed the boot sequence to boot on USB). The most recent version of the USB Creator lets you access the Sugar Beta from the pull-down menu on the upper-right of the window. But you may well want to down load the image and use the Browse functionality as per earlier versions. (In my experience it is faster and it lets you make multiple copies.) Don't forget to allocate some persistent storage. Once you have made the SoaS USB, it should work on any computer, although the Beta is known to be finicky. > > 2. Do I have to create the thumbdrive on the Ubuntu netbook using the > instructions for Linux. I suck at Linux so I'm trying to avoid that as > I'm not sure it has all required packages and I'm trying not to mess > with the machine as it's not mine. No. The image you create on XP should work everywhere. If it doesn't, perhaps try a different brand of USB. Not sure why that matters, but it seems to. (I have had good luck with SanDisk for some reason.) > > 3. Has anyone else successfully gotten a thumbdrive to boot on this > particular Dell Inspiron 910 netbook running Ubuntu? > > 4. Should I try to create a bootable SD card instead? > > Overall I have only two questions that have been answered but hasn't > gotten through my thick skull. > > 1. I realize that using Fedora 11 is part of SoaS-2 but is there an > actual different SoaS .iso in the making for version 2 or is simply > using the current beta of SoaS and loading it on Fedora 11 (using the > Download Fedora on the right side of the Live USB Creator) > automatically making it a SoaS-2 version. > The base system of SoaS-2 is F11. For SoaS-1, it is F10. The system used to create the USBs is not relevant, although the F9-based helper CD didn't work for SoaS-2. The new helper CD is based on F10. > 2. What are the various "Download Fedora" options? What is an i686? > When should the Sugar on a Stick option be used? I think this is a > case of too many options and a newbie so sorry about that. You should just use the SoaS Beta. The rest of the options are not relevant in this use case. > Sorry to be a bother and thanks for any help, Not a bother. > > Kathy > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 38
Being on the west coast (Oregon), I can also empathize. That said, I think this is a slow process on a shoe string budget so we will need patience. I would like to thank all involved. -Kathy -Original Message- From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of David Farning Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:37 AM To: Caryl Bigenho Cc: IAEP SugarLabs Subject: Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 38 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi Carolyn, > Budget? What's that"? No, I am a retired educator who has been doing > support-gang stuff for about a year and-a-half now. > I am the only one in the Southern California area and have to shell > out a $$$ for anything I need to support OLPC and SugarLabs. I guess > it is tax deductible so that is some consolation. > I don't have a multi-port, just an old Powerbook that I repaired and > gave to my husband and a refurbished MacBook. I also have 5 working > XOs, but right now 2 of them are on loan to someone who is trying to > get either XOs or Sugar, running on different computers, for after > school programs at several middle schools in South-Central LA. > I did buy a live CD of Sugar to take to SCaLE in Feb. for the OLPC booth. > Before I even had a chance to try it...someone took it! There were a > lot of other booths giving away stuff so I guess they just thought it > was free for the taking. > I don't mind trying the DIY, I just thought that the labeled sticks > would be more effective. Either way I would really need to know how > to get it going on the MacBook. Maybe I'll just take the XOs and tell > people the other is coming. I really wanted to help you get the word > out, but I guess the left coast isn't that much of a focus for SugarLabs. > If this sounds like a sob-story, it is. I am really disappointed. Sorry. > Caryl Please accept my apologies about Sugar Lab's ability to help you. Your contributions, through spreading the word, are invaluable. Everyone as SL is currently paying their own way; which the exception of the GOSC students:) (Go Jamison, Go) The apparent emphases on the East Cost and Boston is due solely to the fact that Caroline and Walter happen to live there. (As a brief, aside we met Caroline at a conference in Indiana. Location is not everything.) So, transportation is cheap; Bicycle or Prius depending on the person and distance. If things work out well for Caroline and Walter, the lessons they learning doing Sugar deployments, can be applied to the rest of the world. david >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:19:49 -0400 >> From: Caroline Meeks >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 33 >> To: Caryl Bigenho >> Cc: IAEP SugarLabs >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi Caryl, >> >> I want you to know Dave and I are working on the Mac install. At >> FOSSVT it was done by sitting next to Dave. We are working on instructions. >> >> I have very few sticks left so I think you need to plan on DIY. Do >> you have a budget? You could probably get a new order delivered in >> time. >> >> Do you have a multiport so you can batch burn then? I recommend >> burning them only a day or two ahead as things keep getting better at >> a rapid rate. >> >> Thanks, >> Caroline >> >> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Caryl Bigenho >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Carolyn, Walter, et. al., >>> >>> O.K. So maybe SoaS is ready for Prime Time after all! Running on >>> Macs...Wow! How do I contact David Bauer? Could I please, please, >>> get a couple of labeled sticks for the LAUSD Tech Expo at the LA >>> Convention Center April 25. I could make DIY ones here, but that >>> isn't quite the same. >>> Having >>> the lableled ones will make sure folks know what is happening as >>> they casually walk by...a great attention getter! >>> Caryl >>> >>> ___ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Caroline Meeks >> Solution Grove >> carol...@solutiongrove.com >> >> 617-500-3488 - Office >> 505-213-3268 - Fax >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/20090412/eb2e293c/attach ment-0001.htm >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> End of IAEP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 38 >> > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a lapto
Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook
So to follow up, Walter - I guess I don't understand how the left and right side of the Fedora Live USB Creator work. 1. Do you use the left Browse to find .iso OR the right "Download Fedora" and pick the "Sugar on a Stick (beta)" installation - but not both? 2. If you choose "Sugar on a Stick (beta)" does the installer go out on the web and download the newest beta version or is this a specific dated beta version? I used 400 mb of persistent storage on my 2 gig PNY brand stick. I'll try other brands (I have a lexar also). Thanks a ton, Kathy -Original Message- From: Walter Bender [mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:26 AM To: Kathy Pusztavari Cc: IAEP SugarLabs Subject: Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Kathy Pusztavari wrote: > Hi, > > I got the beta version to work on my PC (Dell Dimension 9200). Works > great (and super fast) but I have a couple of newbie questions: > > 1. If I want to add an activity (Turtle Typing), is that possible? Depending upon which Beta you have, just use activities.sugarlabs.org to download and install new activities. But Turtle Typing should be already included, but perhaps not starred in the List View? > > 2. I noticed that when looking at the thumb drive you don't see the > actual directory structure. Does it set up a virtual directory > structure upon booting? > > 3. Once booted, can I simply copy over the Turtle Typing directory > structure into the virtual area? I suspect this would need to be done > each time it is booted but I'm just wondering. I can see another > thumb drives with the typing turles files on it... > > > Now onto another question. Stop me if I'm not asking in the right place. > > I tried to load onto a Dell Inspiron 910 netbook that came loaded with > Ubuntu. I created the 2 gig thumbdrive SoaS beta on an XP machine. > When I used the Fedora Live USB Creator, I wasn't sure from the > instructions what to choose in the pull down titled "Download Fedora". > I'm not sure that is even required that you choose something there if > you click on "Browse" and use the SoaS beta .iso. > > Questions: > > 1. Can I create the thumbdrive on an XP - not boot on the XP but > directly try to boot it on the Ubuntu Dell netbook? I tried that and > it will not boot. (yes, I changed the boot sequence to boot on USB). The most recent version of the USB Creator lets you access the Sugar Beta from the pull-down menu on the upper-right of the window. But you may well want to down load the image and use the Browse functionality as per earlier versions. (In my experience it is faster and it lets you make multiple copies.) Don't forget to allocate some persistent storage. Once you have made the SoaS USB, it should work on any computer, although the Beta is known to be finicky. > > 2. Do I have to create the thumbdrive on the Ubuntu netbook using the > instructions for Linux. I suck at Linux so I'm trying to avoid that as > I'm not sure it has all required packages and I'm trying not to mess > with the machine as it's not mine. No. The image you create on XP should work everywhere. If it doesn't, perhaps try a different brand of USB. Not sure why that matters, but it seems to. (I have had good luck with SanDisk for some reason.) > > 3. Has anyone else successfully gotten a thumbdrive to boot on this > particular Dell Inspiron 910 netbook running Ubuntu? > > 4. Should I try to create a bootable SD card instead? > > Overall I have only two questions that have been answered but hasn't > gotten through my thick skull. > > 1. I realize that using Fedora 11 is part of SoaS-2 but is there an > actual different SoaS .iso in the making for version 2 or is simply > using the current beta of SoaS and loading it on Fedora 11 (using the > Download Fedora on the right side of the Live USB Creator) > automatically making it a SoaS-2 version. > The base system of SoaS-2 is F11. For SoaS-1, it is F10. The system used to create the USBs is not relevant, although the F9-based helper CD didn't work for SoaS-2. The new helper CD is based on F10. > 2. What are the various "Download Fedora" options? What is an i686? > When should the Sugar on a Stick option be used? I think this is a > case of too many options and a newbie so sorry about that. You should just use the SoaS Beta. The rest of the options are not relevant in this use case. > Sorry to be a bother and thanks for any help, Not a bother. > > Kathy > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 38
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi Carolyn, > Budget? What's that"? No, I am a retired educator who has been doing > support-gang stuff for about a year and-a-half now. > I am the only one in the Southern California area and have to shell out a > $$$ for anything I need to support OLPC and SugarLabs. I guess it is tax > deductible so that is some consolation. > I don't have a multi-port, just an old Powerbook that I repaired and gave to > my husband and a refurbished MacBook. I also have 5 working XOs, but right > now 2 of them are on loan to someone who is trying to get either XOs or > Sugar, running on different computers, for after school programs at several > middle schools in South-Central LA. > I did buy a live CD of Sugar to take to SCaLE in Feb. for the OLPC booth. > Before I even had a chance to try it...someone took it! There were a lot > of other booths giving away stuff so I guess they just thought it was free > for the taking. > I don't mind trying the DIY, I just thought that the labeled sticks would be > more effective. Either way I would really need to know how to get it going > on the MacBook. Maybe I'll just take the XOs and tell people the other is > coming. I really wanted to help you get the word out, but I guess the left > coast isn't that much of a focus for SugarLabs. > If this sounds like a sob-story, it is. I am really disappointed. Sorry. > Caryl Please accept my apologies about Sugar Lab's ability to help you. Your contributions, through spreading the word, are invaluable. Everyone as SL is currently paying their own way; which the exception of the GOSC students:) (Go Jamison, Go) The apparent emphases on the East Cost and Boston is due solely to the fact that Caroline and Walter happen to live there. (As a brief, aside we met Caroline at a conference in Indiana. Location is not everything.) So, transportation is cheap; Bicycle or Prius depending on the person and distance. If things work out well for Caroline and Walter, the lessons they learning doing Sugar deployments, can be applied to the rest of the world. david >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:19:49 -0400 >> From: Caroline Meeks >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 33 >> To: Caryl Bigenho >> Cc: IAEP SugarLabs >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi Caryl, >> >> I want you to know Dave and I are working on the Mac install. At FOSSVT it >> was done by sitting next to Dave. We are working on instructions. >> >> I have very few sticks left so I think you need to plan on DIY. Do you >> have >> a budget? You could probably get a new order delivered in time. >> >> Do you have a multiport so you can batch burn then? I recommend burning >> them >> only a day or two ahead as things keep getting better at a rapid rate. >> >> Thanks, >> Caroline >> >> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Caryl Bigenho >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Carolyn, Walter, et. al., >>> >>> O.K. So maybe SoaS is ready for Prime Time after all! Running on >>> Macs...Wow! How do I contact David Bauer? Could I please, please, get a >>> couple of labeled sticks for the LAUSD Tech Expo at the LA Convention >>> Center >>> April 25. I could make DIY ones here, but that isn't quite the same. >>> Having >>> the lableled ones will make sure folks know what is happening as they >>> casually walk by...a great attention getter! >>> Caryl >>> >>> ___ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Caroline Meeks >> Solution Grove >> carol...@solutiongrove.com >> >> 617-500-3488 - Office >> 505-213-3268 - Fax >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/20090412/eb2e293c/attachment-0001.htm >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> End of IAEP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 38 >> > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Kathy Pusztavari wrote: > Hi, > > I got the beta version to work on my PC (Dell Dimension 9200). Works great > (and super fast) but I have a couple of newbie questions: > > 1. If I want to add an activity (Turtle Typing), is that possible? Depending upon which Beta you have, just use activities.sugarlabs.org to download and install new activities. But Turtle Typing should be already included, but perhaps not starred in the List View? > > 2. I noticed that when looking at the thumb drive you don't see the actual > directory structure. Does it set up a virtual directory structure upon > booting? > > 3. Once booted, can I simply copy over the Turtle Typing directory structure > into the virtual area? I suspect this would need to be done each time it is > booted but I'm just wondering. I can see another thumb drives with the > typing turles files on it... > > > Now onto another question. Stop me if I'm not asking in the right place. > > I tried to load onto a Dell Inspiron 910 netbook that came loaded with > Ubuntu. I created the 2 gig thumbdrive SoaS beta on an XP machine. When I > used the Fedora Live USB Creator, I wasn't sure from the instructions what > to choose in the pull down titled "Download Fedora". I'm not sure that is > even required that you choose something there if you click on "Browse" and > use the SoaS beta .iso. > > Questions: > > 1. Can I create the thumbdrive on an XP - not boot on the XP but directly > try to boot it on the Ubuntu Dell netbook? I tried that and it will not > boot. (yes, I changed the boot sequence to boot on USB). The most recent version of the USB Creator lets you access the Sugar Beta from the pull-down menu on the upper-right of the window. But you may well want to down load the image and use the Browse functionality as per earlier versions. (In my experience it is faster and it lets you make multiple copies.) Don't forget to allocate some persistent storage. Once you have made the SoaS USB, it should work on any computer, although the Beta is known to be finicky. > > 2. Do I have to create the thumbdrive on the Ubuntu netbook using the > instructions for Linux. I suck at Linux so I'm trying to avoid that as I'm > not sure it has all required packages and I'm trying not to mess with the > machine as it's not mine. No. The image you create on XP should work everywhere. If it doesn't, perhaps try a different brand of USB. Not sure why that matters, but it seems to. (I have had good luck with SanDisk for some reason.) > > 3. Has anyone else successfully gotten a thumbdrive to boot on this > particular Dell Inspiron 910 netbook running Ubuntu? > > 4. Should I try to create a bootable SD card instead? > > Overall I have only two questions that have been answered but hasn't gotten > through my thick skull. > > 1. I realize that using Fedora 11 is part of SoaS-2 but is there an actual > different SoaS .iso in the making for version 2 or is simply using the > current beta of SoaS and loading it on Fedora 11 (using the Download Fedora > on the right side of the Live USB Creator) automatically making it a SoaS-2 > version. > The base system of SoaS-2 is F11. For SoaS-1, it is F10. The system used to create the USBs is not relevant, although the F9-based helper CD didn't work for SoaS-2. The new helper CD is based on F10. > 2. What are the various "Download Fedora" options? What is an i686? When > should the Sugar on a Stick option be used? I think this is a case of too > many options and a newbie so sorry about that. You should just use the SoaS Beta. The rest of the options are not relevant in this use case. > Sorry to be a bother and thanks for any help, Not a bother. > > Kathy > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] How to load onto Ubuntu netbook
Hi, I got the beta version to work on my PC (Dell Dimension 9200). Works great (and super fast) but I have a couple of newbie questions: 1. If I want to add an activity (Turtle Typing), is that possible? 2. I noticed that when looking at the thumb drive you don't see the actual directory structure. Does it set up a virtual directory structure upon booting? 3. Once booted, can I simply copy over the Turtle Typing directory structure into the virtual area? I suspect this would need to be done each time it is booted but I'm just wondering. I can see another thumb drives with the typing turles files on it... Now onto another question. Stop me if I'm not asking in the right place. I tried to load onto a Dell Inspiron 910 netbook that came loaded with Ubuntu. I created the 2 gig thumbdrive SoaS beta on an XP machine. When I used the Fedora Live USB Creator, I wasn't sure from the instructions what to choose in the pull down titled "Download Fedora". I'm not sure that is even required that you choose something there if you click on "Browse" and use the SoaS beta .iso. Questions: 1. Can I create the thumbdrive on an XP - not boot on the XP but directly try to boot it on the Ubuntu Dell netbook? I tried that and it will not boot. (yes, I changed the boot sequence to boot on USB). 2. Do I have to create the thumbdrive on the Ubuntu netbook using the instructions for Linux. I suck at Linux so I'm trying to avoid that as I'm not sure it has all required packages and I'm trying not to mess with the machine as it's not mine. 3. Has anyone else successfully gotten a thumbdrive to boot on this particular Dell Inspiron 910 netbook running Ubuntu? 4. Should I try to create a bootable SD card instead? Overall I have only two questions that have been answered but hasn't gotten through my thick skull. 1. I realize that using Fedora 11 is part of SoaS-2 but is there an actual different SoaS .iso in the making for version 2 or is simply using the current beta of SoaS and loading it on Fedora 11 (using the Download Fedora on the right side of the Live USB Creator) automatically making it a SoaS-2 version. 2. What are the various "Download Fedora" options? What is an i686? When should the Sugar on a Stick option be used? I think this is a case of too many options and a newbie so sorry about that. Sorry to be a bother and thanks for any help, Kathy ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] FOSS VT Went Amazingly Well!
Thanks Walter :-) Jeremy, the two links to pass onto your Sun contacts are http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/VirtualBox http://wiki.laptop.org/go/VirtualBox After giving this a tryout, they can then directly work with Walter and the Wiki pages. If they get it working ... they could also publish and share the working images here, http://virtualboximages.com Regards Roland 2009/4/13 Walter Bender > We are here to help if we can. > > -walter > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Roland Gesthuizen > wrote: > > I have a contact with Sun Microsystems, Jeremy Stagg who has expressed a > > keen interest to see if they can help organise somebody from Sun to see > if > > they can enable it on their terminal services environment for schools, > > perhaps also get it to run better within Virtual Box, their VM > environment. > > Joel and I had a brief look at this last year with Tony Forster at the > VITTA > > 2008 conference in Melbourne and I had a chance to walk through the idea > > with Jeremy. > > > > Regards Roland > > > > 2009/4/11 Caroline Meeks > >> > >> I wanted to thank everyone and especially the Sugar on a Stick technical > >> team. This may not be too coherent I'm pretty tired but I wanted to > give > >> feedback. > >> > >> It worked on tons of different computers. Dave Bauer even got it > working > >> on the macs. There was one little HP that seemed not to work. A number > of > >> computers, including a new eepc couldn't get to the wireless. > >> > >> Everyone loved it! They were thrilled with Sugar and we had a room full > of > >> people playing with Turtle Art by the end of the session. People also > >> really got it. They got how having a stick gave the kids access to a > known > >> system at multiple locations. They got how valuable working on existing > >> computers would be for them. The lucky ones who were going to get 1-1 > >> netbook deployments want sugar for those too! > >> > >> Walter has pictures. We were the hit of the show. > >> > >> This is the result of so much hard work by so many people, on Sugar on a > >> Stick, on Sugar, and let us not forget all the geeks who came before us > who > >> made Linux and all the drivers work on all those machines. I don't know > if > >> these teachers really understood how many people worked to make this > >> possible, but what is important is how much they were able to see in a > short > >> time about what a difference it could make to their students. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> Caroline > >> > >> -- > >> Caroline Meeks > >> Solution Grove > >> carol...@solutiongrove.com > >> > >> 617-500-3488 - Office > >> 505-213-3268 - Fax > >> > >> ___ > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > > > > -- > > Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College > > http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au > > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can > change > > the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead > > > > ___ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > -- Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] FOSS VT Went Amazingly Well!
We are here to help if we can. -walter On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Roland Gesthuizen wrote: > I have a contact with Sun Microsystems, Jeremy Stagg who has expressed a > keen interest to see if they can help organise somebody from Sun to see if > they can enable it on their terminal services environment for schools, > perhaps also get it to run better within Virtual Box, their VM environment. > Joel and I had a brief look at this last year with Tony Forster at the VITTA > 2008 conference in Melbourne and I had a chance to walk through the idea > with Jeremy. > > Regards Roland > > 2009/4/11 Caroline Meeks >> >> I wanted to thank everyone and especially the Sugar on a Stick technical >> team. This may not be too coherent I'm pretty tired but I wanted to give >> feedback. >> >> It worked on tons of different computers. Dave Bauer even got it working >> on the macs. There was one little HP that seemed not to work. A number of >> computers, including a new eepc couldn't get to the wireless. >> >> Everyone loved it! They were thrilled with Sugar and we had a room full of >> people playing with Turtle Art by the end of the session. People also >> really got it. They got how having a stick gave the kids access to a known >> system at multiple locations. They got how valuable working on existing >> computers would be for them. The lucky ones who were going to get 1-1 >> netbook deployments want sugar for those too! >> >> Walter has pictures. We were the hit of the show. >> >> This is the result of so much hard work by so many people, on Sugar on a >> Stick, on Sugar, and let us not forget all the geeks who came before us who >> made Linux and all the drivers work on all those machines. I don't know if >> these teachers really understood how many people worked to make this >> possible, but what is important is how much they were able to see in a short >> time about what a difference it could make to their students. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Caroline >> >> -- >> Caroline Meeks >> Solution Grove >> carol...@solutiongrove.com >> >> 617-500-3488 - Office >> 505-213-3268 - Fax >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > -- > Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College > http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change > the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] FOSS VT Went Amazingly Well!
I have a contact with Sun Microsystems, Jeremy Stagg who has expressed a keen interest to see if they can help organise somebody from Sun to see if they can enable it on their terminal services environment for schools, perhaps also get it to run better within Virtual Box, their VM environment. Joel and I had a brief look at this last year with Tony Forster at the VITTA 2008 conference in Melbourne and I had a chance to walk through the idea with Jeremy. Regards Roland 2009/4/11 Caroline Meeks > I wanted to thank everyone and especially the Sugar on a Stick technical > team. This may not be too coherent I'm pretty tired but I wanted to give > feedback. > > It worked on tons of different computers. Dave Bauer even got it working > on the macs. There was one little HP that seemed not to work. A number of > computers, including a new eepc couldn't get to the wireless. > > Everyone loved it! They were thrilled with Sugar and we had a room full of > people playing with Turtle Art by the end of the session. People also > really got it. They got how having a stick gave the kids access to a known > system at multiple locations. They got how valuable working on existing > computers would be for them. The lucky ones who were going to get 1-1 > netbook deployments want sugar for those too! > > Walter has pictures. We were the hit of the show. > > This is the result of so much hard work by so many people, on Sugar on a > Stick, on Sugar, and let us not forget all the geeks who came before us who > made Linux and all the drivers work on all those machines. I don't know if > these teachers really understood how many people worked to make this > possible, but what is important is how much they were able to see in a short > time about what a difference it could make to their students. > > Thank you, > > Caroline > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
