Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:33 PM, NoiseEHC wrote: > The real deal is that Android will be pushed by all the carriers and ARM > vendors. In my humble opinion it will be the dominant phone OS in the > future with even more hardware support the good thing is that android is based on the linux kernel, so most of this hardware support will be available to every linux system; the only significant exception will probably be the graphics subsystem, where google's work will stop at the framebuffer, while a standard linux system may need X. > (just try out the Android SDK, it > is multi platform with an emulator). Jumping to this massive smartbook > bandwagon could push the OLPC idea further without any hardware development. It is probably feasible to jump on the smartbook bandwagon even without a full port to Android: a proof of concept port of sugar to ARM is already available from the work of Bernie Innocenti in OpenEmbedded, and in my free time I'm trying to update it to 0.84; another (untested?) port is available in debian, where the sugar packages are built for every supported arch, including ARM and other embedded ones. Installing such systems on an android phone is generally feasible, requiring skills broadly comparable to those needed to jailbreak an iphone; of course deployment will need support / permission from whoever is going to sell the hardware, to be able to preinstall gnu/linux + sugar instead of the standard system. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC : > >> There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ >> Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. >> >> Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could >> get them to at least say whether they're working on it? >> > > http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/ > > It is Google's Python plan. Unfortunately it is not about reducing memory > consumption, it is for servers. > The problem with the Sugar path is that it has no hardware vendor backing. > Android has. > The new 1.5 XO makes the memory pressure bearable with 1G of memory just it > also has no hardware vendor backing (in the sense of at least 10 million > units per year category). > > I meant Python on Android. In the short term, PyBank should help. In the very long term, PyPy would be an interesting option, but bindings are still a problem. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar
Sean and Tomeu, Just a little update on this video. If you would like Rich to go ahead and get this ready for Sugar Labs use, he has offered to do so in early July. Let me know! JT > From: rich.r...@ttu.edu > To: jtis4...@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:49:41 -0500 > Subject: RE: [IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar > > John, > > Glad you found the Spectrum video interesting. We made the movie for a > luncheon talk and would need to make some adjustments (and shorten it) for > public viewing off Sugar Labs. I could look at doing that in early July if > you're interested, after I return from the Computers and Writing Conference. > Right now it includes some sound and lower-leveling on the audio that I'd > want to fix first. Looking forward to playing with Sugar later this summer. > > Rich > > > > --- > Dr. Rich Rice, Associate Professor > TTU Department of English > http://richrice.com > > > From: John Tierney [jtis4...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:33 PM > To: Rice, Rich > Subject: FW: [IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar > > Hi Rich, > > I had forwarded an email with the link to the Science Spectrum video: > http://media.English.TTU.edu/faculty/rice/5365/iplay.wmv > > Sugar Labs Marketing Coordinator Sean Daly was interested in trans-coding the > video to an Open Source format and was wondering if it has a Creative Commons > designation so it could be put up with other Sugar Labs videos on the > Daily Motion site: > http://www.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs > > Your guidance on this would be appreciated. > > Thanks! > John Tierney > > P.S. Tammy should have a "Sugar on A Stick" for you > at C&W if the logistics work-out. > > > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:56:22 +0200 > > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar > > From: sdaly...@gmail.com > > To: jtis4...@hotmail.com > > CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; > > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > Wow I can't wait to see that (can't on this machine) > > > > I'm interested in transcoding this to Ogg Theora, do you think we > > could ask him for a higher-quality source version I could transcode? > > > > is it CC, could we put it up on the Dailymotion site? > > > > Texas is Dell Foundation country. Hmmm... > > > > Sean > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:52 PM, John Tierney wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > > > Just wanted to pass along this email and video to everyone to show > > > > > > others like ourselves our hard at work trying to highlight and increase > > > > > > the effectiveness of Sugar and the XO. > > > > > > > > > > > > Video is about 35min in length-well done and inspires like minded work > > > > > > to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > John Tierney > > > > > > > > > > > >>Subject: TTU's work with XO > > >>Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:47:08 -0400 > > >>From: tcsa...@purdue.edu > > >>To: rich.r...@ttu.edu; jtis4...@hotmail.com > > > > > >>Dear John, > > > > > > > > > > > >>I’ve mentioned to you that Rich Rice at Texas Tech University has been > > >> using XO laptops for outreach >with k-12 students, and recently, he and > > >> his > > >> graduate students completed a project with the Science >Spectrum in > > >> Lubbock, > > >> TX. Science Spectrum is the local science museum. As you can see from > > >> the > > >> >following movie, they developed some innovative activities and > > >> >documented > > >> their work with children who >stopped by the Science Spectrum. They’ve > > >> had > > >> quite a bit of success using the drawing and >chat .software, among > > >> others. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://media.English.TTU.edu/faculty/rice/5365/iplay.wmv > > > > > > > > > > > >>Rich is also a member of the Computers and Writing community and is > > >> interested in exploring other >ways that C&W can do outreach with k-12 > > >> schools using the XO and the Sugar platform. I’ve copied him >on this > > >> message, so we can continue to talk about options for immediate and > > >> long-term projects like >working with the National Writing Project. > > > > > > > > > > > >>Tammy > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > >>Tammy S. Conard-Salvo > > >>Associate Director, Writing Lab > > >>Purdue University > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Gravity lesson
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > How about making a video? I intend to run through all of the capabilities of Sugar, including animations, videos, and TA Portfolio. Today I am fixing my set of Turtle Art icon tiles for TA 51. Tomorrow I will post some of my Turtle Art programs, which you can walk through. In the meantime, here they are in Logo: Constant acceleration: window to tasetxy :x :y penup setxy :x :y pendown end to stack1 repeat 18.0 [ make "box1 plus :box1 :box2 forward :box1 pendown forward 0.0 penup ] end to ta0 clearscreen tasetxy -50.0 200.0 right 180.0 pendown forward 0.0 penup make "box1 1.0 make "box2 2.0 stack1 forward 50.0 end Parabola: window to tasetxy :x :y penup setxy :x :y pendown end to ta0 clearscreen tasetxy -50.0 200.0 right 180.0 pendown forward 0.0 penup make "box1 1.0 make "box2 2.0 stack2 forward 30.0 end to stack2 repeat 18.0 [ left 90.0 forward 20.0 right 90.0 make "box1 plus :box1 :box2 forward :box1 pendown forward 0.0 penup ] end > -walter > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> I have created a version of Alan Kay's third grade gravity lesson >> >> http://download.laptop.org/content/conf/20080520-country-wkshp/Video/2008-05-20/13-Beyond-Printing >> (medium).ogg >> >> with models built in Turtle Art 51, and posted a link to it at >> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai/Plans_and_Essays >> >> I will be interested to hear comments. This is just the first of >> perhaps 10,000 such ^_^, if we follow Bryan Berry's estimate of the >> number of topics for every subject in every grade. >> >> -- >> Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name >> And Children are my nation. >> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. >> http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Gravity lesson
How about making a video? -walter On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > I have created a version of Alan Kay's third grade gravity lesson > > http://download.laptop.org/content/conf/20080520-country-wkshp/Video/2008-05-20/13-Beyond-Printing > (medium).ogg > > with models built in Turtle Art 51, and posted a link to it at > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai/Plans_and_Essays > > I will be interested to hear comments. This is just the first of > perhaps 10,000 such ^_^, if we follow Bryan Berry's estimate of the > number of topics for every subject in every grade. > > -- > Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name > And Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. > http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC : > >> My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible >> language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they >> will add more languages, though. >> > > Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities > consists of <1000 lines of code. >> >> A more long term solution would be using PyPy, since it has >> significantly lower memory usage and better optimisation prospects. >> Switching to PyBank for bindings should also help. >> > > Or retargeting Python to the DEX format. There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could get them to at least say whether they're working on it? > > The real deal is that Android will be pushed by all the carriers and ARM > vendors. In my humble opinion it will be the dominant phone OS in the future > with even more hardware support (just try out the Android SDK, it is multi > platform with an emulator). Jumping to this massive smartbook bandwagon could > push the OLPC idea further without any hardware development. > > ps: > If you did not see the video then the current plan is to sell those > smartbooks for 0$ via G3 phone carrier subsidy. It can became a HUGE market. > > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Gravity lesson
I have created a version of Alan Kay's third grade gravity lesson http://download.laptop.org/content/conf/20080520-country-wkshp/Video/2008-05-20/13-Beyond-Printing (medium).ogg with models built in Turtle Art 51, and posted a link to it at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai/Plans_and_Essays I will be interested to hear comments. This is just the first of perhaps 10,000 such ^_^, if we follow Bryan Berry's estimate of the number of topics for every subject in every grade. -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15
My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they will add more languages, though. A more long term solution would be using PyPy, since it has significantly lower memory usage and better optimisation prospects. Switching to PyBank for bindings should also help. 2009/6/15 NoiseEHC : > >> Technologically the phone and the computer are quickly converging. >> They are just coming at the problem from different points of view. >> Phones focus on power consumption and size. Netbooks focus on screen >> size and general use computing. >> >> If the new ARM technology is as good inside devices as it is on paper >> the convergence is going to happen sooner than many of us expect it. >> > If you look at the Nvidia Tegra video made by Charbax then it is clear > that it will converge next year. > Google and the ARM companies pushed millions of $ into quick web > browsing and hardware accelerated video and flash (something even Bryan > Berry defines as the future of educational software development). > Android implements the following things (the next version will support > smartbooks): > 1. Its Dalvik VM works in very limited resource environments. It is > something Negroponte talked about but nothing happened (with Python > memory comsumption), Google did not talk about it just fixed it. > 2. The applications are separated like in Rainbow. OLPC will even loose > Rainbow with the transitioning to stock Fedora. > 3. There is an usable programming environment targeting Android. I can > debug programs from Eclipse running on Windows!!! > 4. All the activities on Android can be used by the cursor keys only (so > they ARE easy to handle). Something Sugar lacks even now. > 5. There is a massive army of programmers targeting Android. > It is only my really humble opinion, but could that be that probably the > most sane way would be porting the relevant parts of Sugar to the > Android platform and ditching the rest? > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Develop Sugar activities using Flash tools
That is awesome. While SWF might not be the preferred format for many of us, there is a huge amount of educational content in that format. One of the keys to any community projects is creating the initial material which users find useful enough to use and improve:) This is a huge step in that direction for teachers. david On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > this work is nearing completion. You can read the last progress report > along with instructions for trying it out here: > > http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/05/progress-on-sugar-activities-with-swf.html > > The next steps would be making sure that distros properly package > Gnash and that activity authors find their way in including their > Flash content inside activities. > > Hope you enjoy it, > > Tomeu > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Develop Sugar activities using Flash tools
Hi, this work is nearing completion. You can read the last progress report along with instructions for trying it out here: http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/05/progress-on-sugar-activities-with-swf.html The next steps would be making sure that distros properly package Gnash and that activity authors find their way in including their Flash content inside activities. Hope you enjoy it, Tomeu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > ===Sugar Digest=== > > 1. It seems that once per month the computer vs. phone debate > reemerges. This time, http://edutechdebate.org/ has taken up the > theme. Wayan Vota posed the question: Mobile Phones: Better Learning > Tools than Computers? Michael Trucano takes the affirmative position > in his essay, > http://edutechdebate.org/mobile-phones-and-computers/phones-are-a-real-alternative-to-computers/ > while Robert B. Kozma argues that > http://edutechdebate.org/mobile-phones-and-computers/computers-are-more-capable-than-mobile-phones/. > The usual arguments of pervasiveness (phones) and capacity (computers) > were made. > > We touched on a different set of themes when we discussed this topic > "versus, not" [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-May/005484.html] > back in May. We were responding in part to Mark Guzdial's blog: Does > "There's an App for That" Hurt or Help Computing Education? > [http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/post/PLNK3F4TMBURELZZK]. At the time I > said that I was optimistic about the role of phones in learning—a > u-turn from my long-standing position. The arguments about the > differences in affordances between phones and computer remain > relevant: e.g., you wouldn't write an essay on your phone if you have > a computer at hand; and as Kozma points out, the large installed base > of phones is not composed primarily of the latest iPhone on a 3G > network. The current installed base has much less capacity. But that > will change over time. > > My disregard of phones for learning had been based on my fear that > "phone culture" was turning us into a society of consumers of those > services that "Ma Bell" chose for us. But the iPhone and the Android > are changing that. The meme that is rapidly becoming part of our > culture is that phones are programmable, i.e., computers. This is a > huge step forward. There is merit in Guzdial's argument that the Apple > marketing pitch discourages end-users from becoming active > participants in the creative process—we must be vigilant in combating > this trend. But now that the phone company's model of "phone as a > service" is eroding, there is reason for optimism that the > corresponding model of "learning as a service" will also wane. The end > of restrictions on who can develop what for whom is an important > cultural development that will have an overall positive impact on > learning, regardless of the platform. Sugar, which is designed for a > relatively lightweight environments, will become more significant to > learners. +1. Technologically the phone and the computer are quickly converging. They are just coming at the problem from different points of view. Phones focus on power consumption and size. Netbooks focus on screen size and general use computing. If the new ARM technology is as good inside devices as it is on paper the convergence is going to happen sooner than many of us expect it. david > 2. [http://nexcopy.com Nexcopy] has generously donated a USB > replicator to Sugar Labs. It will be a great help in our various > Sugar-on-a-Stick pilot programs this summer. > > ===Help Wanted=== > > 3. Hamilton Chua has written some patches to enable SoaS images to > register with School Servers, thus enabling backup and restore. The > patch is described in http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/916. Please try > to test it. > > 4. Lionel Laske reports that OLPC France has launch a French FLOSS > Manual Sprint and a large part of the work has been completed. They > are now looking for help with "Help." Lionel asks, is there a way to > do quickly a “one shot” build of the Help Activity in French (and > other languages)? > > 5. Samy Boutayeb is seeking input on digital media > [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-mg/2009-June/000169.html] for > the OLPC/Sugar pilot in Madagascar. > > 6. David Van Assche published > [http://www.nubae.com/collaboration-session-sugar-june10 a report] > from the collaboration-testing session that took place last week (10 > June 10). Please leave your comments, especially those who took part. > We plan to continue testing again on Wednesday, 17 June, at 20:00 UTC, > irc.freenode.org, channel #sugar-collaboration. > > ===In the community=== > > 7. Coming up next week: Sugar at http://linuxtag.org (24–27 June in Berlin). > > 8. Also, Sugar at http://www.fossed.com/ in Bethel, Maine, 24–26 June. > > 9. And Sugar at[http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2009/ in Washington > DC, 28 June–1 July. > > 10. The OLPC Learning CLub, DC, is hosting a Family XO Mesh Meetup > [http://olpclearningclub.org/meetings/june-meeting-the-brightest-light-in-the-library/] > Saturday, 20 June from 10 AM to 1 PM. > > ===Tech Talk=== > > 11. I modified Mitchel Charity's Ruler activity > [http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4192] to look up > the screen resolution so that it would render properly on non-OLPC-XO > displays. I'm parsing xdpyinfo, which may not be the
[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15
===Sugar Digest=== 1. It seems that once per month the computer vs. phone debate reemerges. This time, http://edutechdebate.org/ has taken up the theme. Wayan Vota posed the question: Mobile Phones: Better Learning Tools than Computers? Michael Trucano takes the affirmative position in his essay, http://edutechdebate.org/mobile-phones-and-computers/phones-are-a-real-alternative-to-computers/ while Robert B. Kozma argues that http://edutechdebate.org/mobile-phones-and-computers/computers-are-more-capable-than-mobile-phones/. The usual arguments of pervasiveness (phones) and capacity (computers) were made. We touched on a different set of themes when we discussed this topic "versus, not" [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-May/005484.html] back in May. We were responding in part to Mark Guzdial's blog: Does "There's an App for That" Hurt or Help Computing Education? [http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/post/PLNK3F4TMBURELZZK]. At the time I said that I was optimistic about the role of phones in learning—a u-turn from my long-standing position. The arguments about the differences in affordances between phones and computer remain relevant: e.g., you wouldn't write an essay on your phone if you have a computer at hand; and as Kozma points out, the large installed base of phones is not composed primarily of the latest iPhone on a 3G network. The current installed base has much less capacity. But that will change over time. My disregard of phones for learning had been based on my fear that "phone culture" was turning us into a society of consumers of those services that "Ma Bell" chose for us. But the iPhone and the Android are changing that. The meme that is rapidly becoming part of our culture is that phones are programmable, i.e., computers. This is a huge step forward. There is merit in Guzdial's argument that the Apple marketing pitch discourages end-users from becoming active participants in the creative process—we must be vigilant in combating this trend. But now that the phone company's model of "phone as a service" is eroding, there is reason for optimism that the corresponding model of "learning as a service" will also wane. The end of restrictions on who can develop what for whom is an important cultural development that will have an overall positive impact on learning, regardless of the platform. Sugar, which is designed for a relatively lightweight environments, will become more significant to learners. 2. [http://nexcopy.com Nexcopy] has generously donated a USB replicator to Sugar Labs. It will be a great help in our various Sugar-on-a-Stick pilot programs this summer. ===Help Wanted=== 3. Hamilton Chua has written some patches to enable SoaS images to register with School Servers, thus enabling backup and restore. The patch is described in http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/916. Please try to test it. 4. Lionel Laske reports that OLPC France has launch a French FLOSS Manual Sprint and a large part of the work has been completed. They are now looking for help with "Help." Lionel asks, is there a way to do quickly a “one shot” build of the Help Activity in French (and other languages)? 5. Samy Boutayeb is seeking input on digital media [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-mg/2009-June/000169.html] for the OLPC/Sugar pilot in Madagascar. 6. David Van Assche published [http://www.nubae.com/collaboration-session-sugar-june10 a report] from the collaboration-testing session that took place last week (10 June 10). Please leave your comments, especially those who took part. We plan to continue testing again on Wednesday, 17 June, at 20:00 UTC, irc.freenode.org, channel #sugar-collaboration. ===In the community=== 7. Coming up next week: Sugar at http://linuxtag.org (24–27 June in Berlin). 8. Also, Sugar at http://www.fossed.com/ in Bethel, Maine, 24–26 June. 9. And Sugar at[http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2009/ in Washington DC, 28 June–1 July. 10. The OLPC Learning CLub, DC, is hosting a Family XO Mesh Meetup [http://olpclearningclub.org/meetings/june-meeting-the-brightest-light-in-the-library/] Saturday, 20 June from 10 AM to 1 PM. ===Tech Talk=== 11. I modified Mitchel Charity's Ruler activity [http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4192] to look up the screen resolution so that it would render properly on non-OLPC-XO displays. I'm parsing xdpyinfo, which may not be the most reliable way to get the display resolution; feedback from testers would be appreciated. ===Sugar Labs=== 12. Gary Martin has generated a SOM from the past week of discussion on the IAEP mailing list (Please see [[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Image:2009-June-6-12-som.jpg]]). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] personalisation and collaboration
David, For frameworks, you may want to look at "achievement systems" and "reputation systems" (e.g. karma on slashdot). I just helped a colleague with his grant proposal about adding achievement systems to a peer review-based authoring environment, Expertiza, so we did some literature review for that. It's a well-developed topic in gaming and in internet-based community studies. It involves creating an "economy" of good deeds, basically. In more advanced systems, users can define or co-define which deeds are considered "good." -- Cheers, MariaD Make math your own, to make your own math. http://www.naturalmath.com social math site http://groups.google.com/group/naturalmath future math culture email group http://www.phenixsolutions.com empowering our innovations On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:48 PM, David Van Assche wrote: > Having pondered this a bit more, I came up with a practical example. Lets > say we have a student in Uruguay, lets call him Fernando, and lets say we > have a student in the UK, lets call her Suzy. Suzy's Spanish is not great, > as she hasn't had the chance to delve into it practically, nor is she > getting the right idea about how everyday Spanish is used in Spanish > countries, having relied on terrible cliched examples of her antiquated text > books. Fernando's English is not very good, seeing as the only English he is > subjected to are pirate movies he buys from the local market, so he's > learned more slang than real English. His school isn't even teaching > English, but he desperately wants to learn it. > > Colabot knows both of these users, as it has analysed every willing user's > e-portfolio, and knows they would compliment each other perfectly say by > sharing the Speak activity. Colabot could suggest times at which these 2 > students could meet virtually and collaborate in order to improve their > language skills. Colabot could keep track of their on going meetings, > showing the amount of hours spent on language learning. Colabot could even > give out an award or recognition after the students had spent X amount of > hours learning together. > > The great thing about this example is that it seems to me to be pure > construcionism with technology at its simplest and its best. The 2 students > are teachers to each other, and colabot is there purely in the capacity a > teacher normally should be, to guide the learning process. > > kind Regards, > David Van Assche > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:00 AM, David Van Assche >> wrote: >> > Something has been in the back of my head for a while now, ever since >> I've >> > seen the impressive capabilities of being able to share an activity with >> > your neighbourhood. Being able to cooperatively use applications brings >> a >> > new level of playability to it all, and it reminds me of when I first >> saw >> > the ability for a computer game to be 'multi-player.'This gave it an >> extra >> > dimension, and with it came the idea of awards for completing certain >> > things, which would be displayed in your dashoard somewhere.The award >> system >> > seems even more relevant for education than it did for games. We'v >> aleady >> > mentioned the benefits of an award sysem so I'm not going to regugitate >> > that, but what hasnt''t really been spoken about is, how and what kind >> of >> > personal details should the journal store and share. I see this as a >> > customisable option, something that can be as simple as only sharing >> first >> > names, or sharing the name of your pet, your favorite colors and foods, >> the >> > languages you speak. >> > >> > This detailed information about a person is extremely valuable to the >> > underlying system, as it can potentially match people against each >> other. >> > This would allow for some interesting possibilities when it comes to >> > collaboration, such as the system suggesting users to >> challenge/collaborate >> > with based on personal information. I thought about having a robot that >> > lives on an irc channel capable of helping with the collaboration >> procedure, >> > as well as listing achievements, giving data on which users want to >> > collaborate, giving help on how collaboration works with particular >> > activities, listing which servers have open collaboration, showing the >> most >> > used/highest rated collaborating activities, etc. >> > >> > I havent thought about this too much in depth, but I know coding a bot >> is >> > not too hard. I see it as an extension to the speak AI, and >> encouragement to >> > join irc. We can even get the bot to accept uploads of raw learning >> > materials categorised by subject, which can then be used by content >> > creators. it itself could give out quizzes based on particular subjects, >> or >> > interesting pieces of information/knowledge. It could be taught new >> > information, by feeding it localised knowledge. It would be important to >> > know where we set the limits to what it
Re: [IAEP] Keyboard problem? Terminal Problem? ???? Problem
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:07, David Farning wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: >> Hi... >> I decided to try to install Flash in an XO running 802 so that I might be >> able to get the Periodic Table of Videos and Live Mocha to work on an XO. >> I started in terminal mode, and thinking I would be extra safe and remove >> Gnash first, I followed the instructions (see first example) >> >> That appeared to work fine and went through a lot of steps. I hit the >> return button several times before it said it was complete. >> >> Then I tried to continue with the installation instructions (See second >> example). >> >> Every time I typed su- l ( that is "el" not "one") it returned the message: >> >> bash: su- : command not found >> >> and returned the prompt: >> >> [o...@xo-15-01-d ~] $ > > You need a space between su and the dash-el. It means SuperUser -login Yup. > Try typing man su from a command line for the manual page on the command. On the OLPC images there's no man pages AFAIK, but you can find those online in places like here: http://linux.die.net/man/1/su Regards, Tomeu > david > >> I tried restarting and it happened the same way. I tried different >> characters (like "one") and the problem persisted. >> >> Any suggestions? I can reflash to a fresh copy of 802 that still contains >> Gnash if that will help. I thought maybe leaving Gnash in would cause a >> problem, but it looks like removing it may have caused even more trouble. >> >> Thanks >> >> Caryl >> >> Examples follow: >> >> >> su -l >> yum remove gnash gnash-pluginsu -l >> >> wget >> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm >> rpm -i flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm >> exit >> >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
