Re: [IAEP] Open-Mesh.com
What is the problem you are trying to solve? -walter On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > I am at a talk on Open Mesh as a low cost solution for schools. Are people > here familiar with this? > > http://open-mesh.com/store/ > > Will local collaboration work with Open Mesh? Will it work per AP just like > other wireless solutions or will it collaborate across the mesh devices? > > Thanks, > Caroline > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Unsubscribing from IAEP (Was: picked up by [some media])
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 03:51:28PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >>Actually the PR team, the marketing team and the publicist team today >>are: the marketing team > > Whatever. Please concider re-reading my mail, replacing "PR" with > "marketing", and reflect on _that_ instead of my confusing those terms. > > >>I'm subscribed to all the lists to be aware of what is going on but of >>course the IAEP list is best for information of general interest to >>contributors. > > The -devel list was _not_ my main concern. > > > I will now, sadly, unsubscribe from IAEP - not because only geek stuff > interests me (which is not true!), but because I feel that the list is > getting too noisy for my taste. > > Back when I subscribed, I enjoyed its high quality educational focus of > Since then, as Sugarlabs evolved, the list became more and more > "cluttered" with organizational stuff that IMO were more appropriate to > discuss at a seapare organizational list. I now realize that this _is_ > the organizational list and there are no separate place for educational > discussions. It is a feature, not a bug, that this list gets more > "noisy" as the project grows. Makes sense, but does not it my capacity > (I am already involved too deeply in other projects - cannot keep up > with project-wide details of more). > > > I will continue to package Sugar for Debian, and I might stay subscribed > to sugar-devel (depending on the amount of "noise" on that list). > > I write this in the hope that reflecting on my decision is of some use > to you (I worry that some educational interested people just silently > unsubscribe, now and in the future). I will happily subscribe again > later, if situation changes - feel free to notify me if that happens (as > I will now no longer keep track). > > You are most welcome to cc me any posts that you suspect might be of > direct interest to me - and perhaps you even want my opinion on. Thanks for the Feed Back Jonas. I feel your pain. You are one hundred percent correct that iaep is the catchall list for the project. If a topic starts getting enough traffic, It will likely branch off into a new list. Hopefully, we will have enough eduction specific traffic to warrant its own list in the near future. But, to be honest, I think that will take a lot of work. On the bright side moodle has laid a lot of the ground work in bringing the notions of community development and open source to educators. david > Good luck with the ever more succesful Sugarlabs project! > > - Jonas > > - -- > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt > * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ > > [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkpDlfsACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgWEACdH043O3p0xY0eRIAz8G6goVcg > jUwAnjU0sjfyhduuFC5F3/HRX4f4+3Uq > =zwmK > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] New Mailing List
Hey all, I would like to announce a new mailing list, "Sugar Labs Systems" . The list has actually been around for a few months as a closed list for infrastructure security concerns. But now, It make more sense to open the list for general infrastructure concerns. Please subscribe if you are interested in helping the the Sugar Labs infrastructure. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > > I'm sorry Jonas, I had assumed the success of our launch (3700 SoaS > downloads yesterday) would be of interest to all Sugar Labs > contributors, in particular those who worked so hard on it. Does > anyone else feel it's too much information? I would be worried though > if any contributors weren't interested in coverage, especially in > their countries. I'm glad to see it. It may help that my mailer dedupes the feed, so I don't see everything once per list. > Although most coverage has been in the online tech press, we are > reaching out to educational publications as well; it's only a matter > of time until we get coverage from them as well, as news of our pilot > projects comes online. We still have to overcome the trade press bias against non-advertisers. I'm discussing articles with IEEE Transactions on Education. > You may be aware that we are battling a perception of developers > working too isolated from the classroom. Some critics have cited our > absence of both a feedback loop Guess they don't read Spanish. ^_^ > and consolidated data about > large-scale Sugar use. These are valid concerns that merit our > attention. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Academic_Papers and other pages that it links to. > In my opinion, communicating the benefits of Sugar as a Facilitator is > something any of us could be doing. Marten Vijn spoke passionately > about direct action recently and he is absolutely right that each of > us should be spreading news of Sugar. I get a Google Alert on OLPC daily, and I'm about to sign up for one on Sugar on a Stick. I frequently comment on the Web sites of articles that Google brings to my attention. > Negative press means that > activity is more difficult; Negative press is almost always an opportunity to get positive press, except possibly at the Wall Street Journal. The Editorial Board seems to think that Free Software is bad for business. > positive press means it's easier. So I > feel it is relevant to know if we are being covered fairly, if our > message is getting out, or if we are being heavily criticized in areas > we need improvement, or criticized unfairly based on false > perceptions. But I don't mind if we pull back the notices to Marketing. Is anybody Wikifying these items? > thanks > > Sean > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > STP cross-posting marketing info, please! > > > > Great info, but not educational nor geeky, so irrelevant for those lists > > IMHO. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > - Jonas > > > > - -- > > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt > > * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ > > > > [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkpDO/8ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgWHQCfbCLJVjSJG8wWBBi9CCXUuYhm > > zBsAn1oWfLhf5AH6vVCP5ymdaiFVmKkM > > =SN5a > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Open-Mesh.com
I am at a talk on Open Mesh as a low cost solution for schools. Are people here familiar with this? http://open-mesh.com/store/ Will local collaboration work with Open Mesh? Will it work per AP just like other wireless solutions or will it collaborate across the mesh devices? Thanks, Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SoasS-strawberry torrent
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:41, David Farning wrote: > I don't know anything about torrents or trackers. > > I just asked Sameer to do what he did with the olpc photos last week. > If anyone has better ideas they would be appriaciated. It should be trivial to modify the torrent to be multi-tracker; it doens't hurt to be in many different places as once. -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Notes on Sugar on Virtual Box work session with a Math and Science teacher
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: > Caroline Meeks wrote: > > What can she do for a Jabber server. > > Does she need one? Sugar has serverless collaboration that works very > well... as long as there isn't too much collaboration traffic for the > network to handle. The maximum number of students seems to vary between > 20 and 40, depending on wireless network hardware, physical classroom > layout, RF environment, etc. The limits are probably much higher for > wired networks. Good point. They should be able to collaborate via the local access point by just taking the server out of the network settings. However, if they want to collaborate from home they would need a server or a service that supplies it. But, you are right, she could get started with only local collaboration. > > In other words, if she is only working with one classroom, she probably > doesn't need a server. If the laptops are plugged into a wired network, > then a server is even less likely to be necessary. > > If a server is necessary... that's trickier. Setting up a server is a lot > of work. Personally, I think "XS as a service" would be a great business > for some enterprising company (or even Sugar Labs itself, though that > seems less likely these days), and a free taster limited to 30 students > per school might be just the way to get started. > > > --Ben > > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Notes on Sugar on Virtual Box work session with a Math and Science teacher
Caroline Meeks wrote: > What can she do for a Jabber server. Does she need one? Sugar has serverless collaboration that works very well... as long as there isn't too much collaboration traffic for the network to handle. The maximum number of students seems to vary between 20 and 40, depending on wireless network hardware, physical classroom layout, RF environment, etc. The limits are probably much higher for wired networks. In other words, if she is only working with one classroom, she probably doesn't need a server. If the laptops are plugged into a wired network, then a server is even less likely to be necessary. If a server is necessary... that's trickier. Setting up a server is a lot of work. Personally, I think "XS as a service" would be a great business for some enterprising company (or even Sugar Labs itself, though that seems less likely these days), and a free taster limited to 30 students per school might be just the way to get started. --Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Notes on Sugar on Virtual Box work session with a Math and Science teacher
Notes on Sugar on Virtual Box I am working with Laura, a teacher from Maine teacher who wants to use Sugar with her students who already have 1-1 Macbooks. Host F puts you into full screen mode. Host I toggles mouse integration Sugar works bes without mouse integration. Then you can get to the frame. Doe anyone know how too create an icon that could be put in the doc that would start up Virtual box with Sugar with minimal clicks? How can she run a pilot with just her students next year? What can she do for a Jabber server. Can it be run on the teachrers machine? Can she set up her own on random box on under her desk? Server on a Stick. Could she run the server in Virtual Box on her machine? She is going to try creating her own XS server following these instructions: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software Here are some of the activities she uses in Math and Science teaching in Middle school. - geogebra - has applets that people have created that show students concepts then student can make their own. - University of Maine has an Open Sim for the kids in Maine. She feels the avatar free's the kids and allows them to practice social problem solving. She finds doing that with avatars works better then the simulations she had been doing. We probalby don't want to do something as heavy as Second Life, but we might think about something with Avatars that lets kids simulate social situations. - Interesting teaching method in Second Life. Students were asked to move to diffrent colored areas as they progres sthrough the lesson so its easy to see ho the class is doing. - Second life has also given her an ability to observe other teachres that she doesn't have in real life as she is in a 5 teacher school. Laura also thinks it would be valuable as summer school. Her district doesn't pay for summer school but she could have her kids do stuff and even meet together online. Some of the kids only have dialup but it should still work. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Picked up by eWeek (UK), Yahoyt (TR), and Bambini (IT)
http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/olpc-os-now-available-for-netbooks-and-old-pcs-1225 http://yahoyt.com/h/4789/usb-li-seker http://www.bambini.info/2009/06/25/sugar-on-a-stick-la-piattaforma-educativa-su-chievetta-usb/ I thank Carlo Falciola for the link from Italy, it's thanks to his translation we have coverage from there this time! Sean ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Unsubscribing from IAEP (Was: picked up by [some media])
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 03:51:28PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >Actually the PR team, the marketing team and the publicist team today >are: the marketing team Whatever. Please concider re-reading my mail, replacing "PR" with "marketing", and reflect on _that_ instead of my confusing those terms. >I'm subscribed to all the lists to be aware of what is going on but of >course the IAEP list is best for information of general interest to >contributors. The -devel list was _not_ my main concern. I will now, sadly, unsubscribe from IAEP - not because only geek stuff interests me (which is not true!), but because I feel that the list is getting too noisy for my taste. Back when I subscribed, I enjoyed its high quality educational focus of Since then, as Sugarlabs evolved, the list became more and more "cluttered" with organizational stuff that IMO were more appropriate to discuss at a seapare organizational list. I now realize that this _is_ the organizational list and there are no separate place for educational discussions. It is a feature, not a bug, that this list gets more "noisy" as the project grows. Makes sense, but does not it my capacity (I am already involved too deeply in other projects - cannot keep up with project-wide details of more). I will continue to package Sugar for Debian, and I might stay subscribed to sugar-devel (depending on the amount of "noise" on that list). I write this in the hope that reflecting on my decision is of some use to you (I worry that some educational interested people just silently unsubscribe, now and in the future). I will happily subscribe again later, if situation changes - feel free to notify me if that happens (as I will now no longer keep track). You are most welcome to cc me any posts that you suspect might be of direct interest to me - and perhaps you even want my opinion on. Good luck with the ever more succesful Sugarlabs project! - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkpDlfsACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgWEACdH043O3p0xY0eRIAz8G6goVcg jUwAnjU0sjfyhduuFC5F3/HRX4f4+3Uq =zwmK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SoasS-strawberry torrent
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:28:33AM -0500, David Farning wrote: >> Looks good. >> >> I have added the torrent to the primary download page. > > Maybe use for this purpose linuxtracker.org > there are plenty of linux distribution torrents > I've requested them for category "Sugar" I don't know anything about torrents or trackers. I just asked Sameer to do what he did with the olpc photos last week. If anyone has better ideas they would be appriaciated. thanks david > -- > Aleksey > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SoasS-strawberry torrent
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:28:33AM -0500, David Farning wrote: > Looks good. > > I have added the torrent to the primary download page. Maybe use for this purpose linuxtracker.org there are plenty of linux distribution torrents I've requested them for category "Sugar" -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SoasS-strawberry torrent
Looks good. I have added the torrent to the primary download page. david On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:19 AM, David Farning wrote: > Sameer made a torrent for SoaS-Strawberry at > > http://www.legaltorrents.com/torrents/599-sugar-on-a-stick > > I have tested it. Seems to work fine. Would a few people mind testing > and seeding before we add it to the download page? > > thanks > david > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Picked up by Innovación Social (ES) , Dziennik Internautów (PL), Hardware.n o (NO), Away (GR), Diario Actual (ES ), Chip Online (TR), Webplanet (RU) , Origo (HU), ADUC (IT)
http://www.innovasocial.com/2009/06/sugar-el-sistema-operativo-de-los-ordenadores-olpc-ahora-en-memorias-usb/ http://di.com.pl/news/27375,0,Programy_z_OLPC_na_kazdym_komputerze.html http://www.hardware.no/artikler/sugar_on_a_stick_1_0_lansert/70523 http://away.gr/2009/06/25/100-olpc-becomes-5-usb-stick/ http://www.diarioactual.com/?p=754 http://www.chip.com.tr/konu/sugar-os-seker-gibi-bir-isletim-sistemi_13550.html http://webplanet.ru/news/soft/2009/06/25/sugar_on_a_stick.html http://www.origo.hu/techbazis/szamitogep/20090625-ingyen-letoltheto-a-szazdollaros-laptop-szoftvere.html http://www.aduc.it/dyn/tlc/noti.php?id=263969 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Getting Started Videos
Can we embedd that Sugar Interface video too? Maybe create a Wiki page with the videos we think people should watch in order? On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > Video is indeed an excellent instruction tool for that and Dailymotion > videos can be embedded right on the page. > > Perhaps we can try to prioritize which videos to produce? > > Sean > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Caroline > Meeks wrote: > > I'm thinking that at the bottom of all the pages where we give people > > instructions on how to get Sugar we should include links to videos where > > they can get oriented, especially things like finding the neighborhood > and > > connecting to WiFi. > > > > right now I think the best we could do is first > > > > http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=gallery&page=media_01 > > Then Daily Motion > > > > http://www.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs?hmz=6f776e6572696e666f73 > > > > What I don't like about this is: > > > > We send people to more then one place > > The featured dailymotion video is colorful, but not really what we want > to > > teach people first. > > > > -- > > Caroline Meeks > > Solution Grove > > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > > > 617-500-3488 - Office > > 505-213-3268 - Fax > > > > ___ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] HUMOR: SoasS-strawberry torrent
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 03:31:37PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > At the launch this month of the Archos Digital Satchel in Paris > (Archos plans to be a Europewide partner for the Intel Classmate), the > head of the proprietary learning software package bundled with the > Archos chose "sugar" as an example of what kids like but is bad for > them, then called video games "digital junk food". I wish Intel luck with their "Castor Oil" learning platform. > Sean. Martin pgprmTsiteJWs.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Getting Started Videos
Video is indeed an excellent instruction tool for that and Dailymotion videos can be embedded right on the page. Perhaps we can try to prioritize which videos to produce? Sean On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > I'm thinking that at the bottom of all the pages where we give people > instructions on how to get Sugar we should include links to videos where > they can get oriented, especially things like finding the neighborhood and > connecting to WiFi. > > right now I think the best we could do is first > > http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=gallery&page=media_01 > Then Daily Motion > > http://www.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs?hmz=6f776e6572696e666f73 > > What I don't like about this is: > > We send people to more then one place > The featured dailymotion video is colorful, but not really what we want to > teach people first. > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Getting Started Videos
I'm thinking that at the bottom of all the pages where we give people instructions on how to get Sugar we should include links to videos where they can get oriented, especially things like finding the neighborhood and connecting to WiFi. right now I think the best we could do is first http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=gallery&page=media_01 Then Daily Motion http://www.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs?hmz=6f776e6572696e666f73 What I don't like about this is: - We send people to more then one place - The featured dailymotion video is colorful, but not really what we want to teach people first. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
Actually the PR team, the marketing team and the publicist team today are: the marketing team :-) hopefully in a year or two we'll have enough hands on deck to break out those functions That's too complicated for 8 press releases a year, although it would make sense if we were making worldwide tech news often instead of just yesterday and today. I'm subscribed to all the lists to be aware of what is going on but of course the IAEP list is best for information of general interest to contributors. There are so many clippings today I have to regroup anyway. At least the servers are holding up well, thanks guys. So I'll leave off sugar-devel, hopefully there will be enough developers on IAEP to assist our evaluation of coverage quality in languages other than English. Identifying good coverage really helps us target our message better, some journalists were briefed before the press release went out. As Local Labs come online they will help out too (thanks again to Pilar from Columbia). thanks Sean On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >>I'm sorry Jonas, I had assumed the success of our launch [...] would be >>of interest to all Sugar Labs contributors > > Sure is. > > But posting as you've done clutters the mailinglists IMO. > > Imagine each list as meeting rooms. We have an ongoing meeting about > technical developmetn, and another about educational aspects of Sugar. > You have this great news from the PR team that SoaS is kicking off in > mainstream media, and consider it relevant for both pedagogical people > and geeks to get this news. Makes sense. > > But instead of "interupting our various meetings" with your intersting > but off-topic messages each single time there is a news coverage in some > other media, I suggest you interrupt once with a message like this: > > Big news from the PR team: SoaS is really kicking off now. > > See (and update) this wiki page tracking recent news coverage: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ > > This info is cross-posted to multiple lists, some of them somewhat > off-topic for this kind of info. Please consider posting follow-ups > only to this one list: sugar-x...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > ...and in addition to that last explicit note inside the email, also set > Reply-To: and/or Mail-Followup-To: headers in the email. > > > Kind regards, > > - Jonas > > - -- > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt > * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ > > [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkpDZq0ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgCfQCghsllar+jf59QEuduO51EHgOX > zp8Ani6iD8PUPXw+5ycPQs5rkZjCVq7L > =GspG > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 3700 download
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:30 PM, David Farning wrote: > The only problem was some slowdowns and a bit a disk churn as the use > of swap memory increased. That's usually bad news on a webserver -- if the working set gets too large for ram and apache gets swapped out, your downloading clients timeout. What the kernel thinks is fair isn't a good strategy with network services. Trim maxclients (even if aapche complains a bit) and maxfreemem to rein in apache memory usage. ps_mem.py is your friend... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] HUMOR: SoasS-strawberry torrent
At the launch this month of the Archos Digital Satchel in Paris (Archos plans to be a Europewide partner for the Intel Classmate), the head of the proprietary learning software package bundled with the Archos chose "sugar" as an example of what kids like but is bad for them, then called video games "digital junk food". Coinkeydink? Sean. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Kevin Cole wrote: > Mm. We HAVE to get some restaurants to offer that for dessert (or > perhaps a drink): "I'll have a Strawberry Torrent, please! Heavy on > the Sugar." > -- > Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo > Washington, DC > http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 3700 download
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Jun 24, 2009, at 4:43 PM, David Farning wrote: >> >> I think most of our download server problems were related to memory. > > Did we actually have specific problems with the download machine? I was > keeping an eye on it, and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. The only problem was some slowdowns and a bit a disk churn as the use of swap memory increased. david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] HUMOR: SoasS-strawberry torrent
Mm. We HAVE to get some restaurants to offer that for dessert (or perhaps a drink): "I'll have a Strawberry Torrent, please! Heavy on the Sugar." -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Mac users - Rewrote Mac instructions
Dear Mac users, Based on watching Mac educators trying to test Sugar I've made some changes to our Mac instructions. I point people to Virtual Box as the first choice. Dave did a screencast of installing Strawberry. Please take a look and see if we can make it any easier. Thanks -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SoasS-strawberry torrent
Sameer made a torrent for SoaS-Strawberry at http://www.legaltorrents.com/torrents/599-sugar-on-a-stick I have tested it. Seems to work fine. Would a few people mind testing and seeding before we add it to the download page? thanks david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Computesr for Learning. gov
Well, I wrote to inquire about the "Windows based PCs and Apples" line, and in the words of Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth[1] "Good news, everyone!" ;-) I received the following reply: | Dear Customer, | | The program allows Government Agencies to donate computers and | other related items to eligible recipients. If a Federal Agency | wants to donate a Linux Based computer they may do so. | | Aaron | GSA FAS Technical Support | | Contact Us: | By Phone (Toll free) 1-866-472-9161 | By Email computers.learn...@gsa.gov | | Hours of Operation: | 8:00 a.m. – 7:00 p.m. Eastern Time __ [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Hubert_Farnsworth -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Picked up by OSZine (DE), PCPro (GB ), Hírszerz? (HU), Golem (DE), NeoTeo (ES), PCAdvisor (GB), Netbook Ch oice (US), Ferra (RU), LinuxFR (FR) , La Segunda (CL), Digest-IT (RU)
Agreed, I like this format a lot. I've seen references to SOAS in three or four different fora in the past few days, including metafilter; which is great. SJ On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:01:38PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > > [whole list of links] > > Much better, thanks! > Congratulations for this success (and thanks for the hard work leading to > it), BTW - both to the marketing team and the SoaS team! > > > PS: I guess most people who are interested in this are at least subscribed > to iaep, so no point in cross-posting to sugar-devel. > > CU Sascha > > -- > http://sascha.silbe.org/ > http://www.infra-silbe.de/ > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJKQ02HAAoJELpz82VMF3Dazu0H+wSyqU4/4IDZLcxT0tsO377K > AD5eS8DbeOx5zk7nqIY+hPNy1gVLW8s2ThQGeKtY+dICjE/M0aGQ07o1DR+I9htG > fRzH5EnNgNVCc7WQ45b5AkGrlXaGwf/Gvfq86eCGfzOLdm5rwsJwf2fSvCBvtwn3 > dwvYwUhYGN97QYx5piF/Zoh/xvVe+ZO3ywMcFlrLO+Eo8Bu/FqgjCkmJB47c1uCW > mpRuwOoTPM+BdagsUc26dRSQF+XD0u7iT2VWgwN5dqIknaCDCB6e5KbZxzqulpcB > OIRpT43CeaDeAGMPmgQBG3GqUdM9aqpL3OjZCh6wG7d6kMVym3pRHyKQyUZgmWc= > =ow0T > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >I'm sorry Jonas, I had assumed the success of our launch [...] would be >of interest to all Sugar Labs contributors Sure is. But posting as you've done clutters the mailinglists IMO. Imagine each list as meeting rooms. We have an ongoing meeting about technical developmetn, and another about educational aspects of Sugar. You have this great news from the PR team that SoaS is kicking off in mainstream media, and consider it relevant for both pedagogical people and geeks to get this news. Makes sense. But instead of "interupting our various meetings" with your intersting but off-topic messages each single time there is a news coverage in some other media, I suggest you interrupt once with a message like this: Big news from the PR team: SoaS is really kicking off now. See (and update) this wiki page tracking recent news coverage: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ This info is cross-posted to multiple lists, some of them somewhat off-topic for this kind of info. Please consider posting follow-ups only to this one list: sugar-x...@lists.sugarlabs.org ...and in addition to that last explicit note inside the email, also set Reply-To: and/or Mail-Followup-To: headers in the email. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkpDZq0ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgCfQCghsllar+jf59QEuduO51EHgOX zp8Ani6iD8PUPXw+5ycPQs5rkZjCVq7L =GspG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Book creator
There is a cool way to make an eight-page book from one piece of paper with just one cut and no staples. Let me cogitate on that one. -walter On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TRcKP1MJQs > > I am asking teachers what they want to say to open source developers > please send messages back > > > Sent from my iPhone > Caroline Meeks > 617-395-7966 > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Sean DALY wrote: [snip] > > Good coverage does get updated by Walter in the wiki here: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Current_Events#Sugar_in_the_news Everyone should feel free to update this list. [snip] -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:23:02PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'll regroup links but I do hope those of us who speak the languages I don't (I can only read en-fr-ru I'm afraid) can assist in pointing out particularly good or particularly bad coverage FWIW I liked the pro-linux.de one. They seem to have actually tried out the software themselves instead of just copy & pasting text from the press release and the homepage. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: [Olpc-france] AUP: Approches c onstructionistes pour un apprentissage, une pens ée et une éducation créative (2010)
cross-posting to IAEP August 2010, Paris http://www.aup.fr/news/special_events/constructionism2010.htm Call for Papers We encourage contributions from teachers, researchers and software designers who would like to illustrate how technology can aid in the constructionist approach to learning, thinking and education. Papers can be case-based or theoretical. Presentations are generally twenty minutes in length and we will have both plenary sessions as well as smaller groupings. We are always eager to hear about new uses and extensions to the Logo computer language but we are also eager to hear from those using other languages and technologies. We hope to mix constructionists from a variety of disciplines: mathematics, social and physical sciences with the arts and humanities. Teachers of younger students are especially welcome and are encouraged to actively participate and to show examples of their students’ work. We have heard from people interested in the following areas. Please suggest others! (i...@constructionism2010.org) Papers • New constructionist computer languages • New versions of Logo • Robotics • Multi agent modelling applications in the social sciences • Multi agent modelling applications in mathematics and science education • Art and design education • Music education, music listening • Dance education: dance notation as tools of thought • Constructionist psychology: the work of George Kelly • Constructionist applications of Mathematica • Constructionist applications of APL: Ken Iverson vs. Seymour Papert • Teaching statistics from a constructionist point of view • What’s the difference between constructionism and constructivism? Half-day Workshop Ideas • Robotics • NetLogo • Scratch • Technology for students with special needs • Repertory Grid methods of Personal Construct Psychology -- Forwarded message -- From: Bastien Date: 2009/6/25 Subject: [Olpc-france] AUP: Approches constructionistes pour un apprentissage, une pensée et une éducation créative (2010) To: olpc-fra...@lists.laptop.org, OLPC Bonjour, je vous transmets un lien vers l'annonce d'une conférence l'année prochaine le 16-20 août à l'AUP (American University of Paris) qui a pour thème : « Approches constructionistes pour un apprentissage, une pensée et une éducation créative. » http://www.aup.fr/news/special_events/constructionism2010.htm Je pense que cela s'adresse en particulier aux enseignants utilisant le Logo, Turtle, Sratch - ou tout autre activité informatique mettant en oeuvre les principes du constructionisme. Bien sûr, si vous avez un usage constructioniste d'une activité quelconque, cela peut s'avérer encore plus intéressant. Par exemple, je pense qu'il y a plein de choses à faire avec les activités Discuter, Ecrire et SocialCalc de Sugar... À suivre? -- Bastien ___ Olpc-france mailing list olpc-fra...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-france ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
I like a digest better than the wiki, I wouldn't want to catalogue lousy coverage (which some of it is), I'd prefer just enumerating links. That's because analysis of this is extremely valuable for identifying and combatting misperceptions. For example, on Slashdot yesterday half a dozen commenters said SoaS was useless for old PCs which can't boot USB in the BIOS. Several commenters on /. did point out links to the boot helper CD, but we also adjusted the wiki immediately to call out the boot helper and Walter spoke to the BBC journalist who updated his story. This is the value of multiple-eyeballing a developing news story. Good coverage does get updated by Walter in the wiki here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Current_Events#Sugar_in_the_news I'll regroup links but I do hope those of us who speak the languages I don't (I can only read en-fr-ru I'm afraid) can assist in pointing out particularly good or particularly bad coverage thanks Sean On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:48, Marten Vijn wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 11:40 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >>> >>> > Does anyone else feel it's too much information? >>> While the information itself is interesting and useful, a more >>> digest-like mode of dissipation would be appreciated, e.g. one mail per >>> day. >> >> or list them on the wiki, good for cross references (google points) and >> optionally subscribe to this page to get updates. > > That sounds like a good idea. Anyway, people interested in this could > subscribe to the marketing list (like I do). > > Regards, > > Tomeu > >> Marten >> >> >> >> >>> >>> CU Sascha >>> >>> -- >>> http://sascha.silbe.org/ >>> http://www.infra-silbe.de/ >>> ___ Marketing mailing list >>> market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing >> -- >> http://martenvijn.nl Marten Vijn >> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas Sugar on a Stick >> http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/ The Network Event Kit >> http://har2009.org 13th-16th August >> http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul - 2nd August >> >> ___ >> Marketing mailing list >> market...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing >> > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Picked up by OSZine (DE), PCPro (GB ), Hírszerz? (HU), Golem (DE), NeoTeo (ES), PCAdvisor (GB), Netbook Ch oice (US), Ferra (RU), LinuxFR (FR) , La Segunda (CL), Digest-IT (RU)
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:01:38PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: [whole list of links] Much better, thanks! Congratulations for this success (and thanks for the hard work leading to it), BTW - both to the marketing team and the SoaS team! PS: I guess most people who are interested in this are at least subscribed to iaep, so no point in cross-posting to sugar-devel. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:48, Marten Vijn wrote: > On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 11:40 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >> >> > Does anyone else feel it's too much information? >> While the information itself is interesting and useful, a more >> digest-like mode of dissipation would be appreciated, e.g. one mail per >> day. > > or list them on the wiki, good for cross references (google points) and > optionally subscribe to this page to get updates. That sounds like a good idea. Anyway, people interested in this could subscribe to the marketing list (like I do). Regards, Tomeu > Marten > > > > >> >> CU Sascha >> >> -- >> http://sascha.silbe.org/ >> http://www.infra-silbe.de/ >> ___ Marketing mailing list >> market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > -- > http://martenvijn.nl Marten Vijn > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas Sugar on a Stick > http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/ The Network Event Kit > http://har2009.org 13th-16th August > http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul - 2nd August > > ___ > Marketing mailing list > market...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Picked up by OSZine (DE), PCPro (GB ), Hírszerző (HU), Golem (DE), NeoTeo (ES), PCAdvisor (GB), Netbook Ch oice (US), Ferra (RU), LinuxFR (FR) , La Segunda (CL), Digest-IT (RU)
http://www.oszine.de/node/10808 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/258520/xo-os-comes-on-1gb-flash-drive.html http://www.hirszerzo.hu/cikk.az_olpc-re_szant_szoftvert_regi_szamitogepeken_is_lehet_mar_hasznalni.113406.html http://www.golem.de/0906/67982.html http://www.neoteo.com/analisis-sugar-on-a-stick-olpc.neo http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=118066 http://www.netbookchoice.com/2009/06/24/sugar-on-a-stick-v1-strawberry-olpc-os-available-to-download/ http://news.ferra.ru/soft/2009/06/25/88237/ http://linuxfr.org/2009/06/25/25647.html http://www.lasegunda.com/ediciononline/ciencia_tecnologia/detalle/index.asp?idnoticia=492979 http://digest-it.ru/?p=8320 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 11:40 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > > > Does anyone else feel it's too much information? > While the information itself is interesting and useful, a more > digest-like mode of dissipation would be appreciated, e.g. one mail per > day. or list them on the wiki, good for cross references (google points) and optionally subscribe to this page to get updates. Marten > > CU Sascha > > -- > http://sascha.silbe.org/ > http://www.infra-silbe.de/ > ___ Marketing mailing list > market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing -- http://martenvijn.nl Marten Vijn http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas Sugar on a Stick http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/ The Network Event Kit http://har2009.org 13th-16th August http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul - 2nd August ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Does anyone else feel it's too much information? While the information itself is interesting and useful, a more digest-like mode of dissipation would be appreciated, e.g. one mail per day. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
I'm sorry Jonas, I had assumed the success of our launch (3700 SoaS downloads yesterday) would be of interest to all Sugar Labs contributors, in particular those who worked so hard on it. Does anyone else feel it's too much information? I would be worried though if any contributors weren't interested in coverage, especially in their countries. Although most coverage has been in the online tech press, we are reaching out to educational publications as well; it's only a matter of time until we get coverage from them as well, as news of our pilot projects comes onine. You may be aware that we are battling a perception of developers working too isolated from the classroom. Some critics have cited our absence of both a feedback loop and consolidated data about large-scale Sugar use. These are valid concerns that merit our attention. In my opinion, communicating the benefits of Sugar as a Facilitator is something any of us could be doing. Marten Vijn spoke passionately about direct action recently and he is absolutely right that each of us should be spreading news of Sugar. Negative press means that activity is more difficult; positive press means it's easier. So I feel it is relevant to know if we are being covered fairly, if our message is getting out, or if we are being heavily criticized in areas we need improvement, or criticized unfairly based on false perceptions. thanks Sean On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > STP cross-posting marketing info, please! > > Great info, but not educational nor geeky, so irrelevant for those lists > IMHO. > > > Kind regards, > > - Jonas > > - -- > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt > * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ > > [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEAREDAAYFAkpDO/8ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgWHQCfbCLJVjSJG8wWBBi9CCXUuYhm > zBsAn1oWfLhf5AH6vVCP5ymdaiFVmKkM > =SN5a > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 STP cross-posting marketing info, please! Great info, but not educational nor geeky, so irrelevant for those lists IMHO. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkpDO/8ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLgWHQCfbCLJVjSJG8wWBBi9CCXUuYhm zBsAn1oWfLhf5AH6vVCP5ymdaiFVmKkM =SN5a -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Picked up by ITMedia (Japan)
http://www.itmedia.co.jp/enterprise/articles/0906/25/news057.html ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 3700 download
On Jun 24, 2009, at 4:43 PM, David Farning wrote: > I think most of our download server problems were related to memory. Did we actually have specific problems with the download machine? I was keeping an eye on it, and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. -- Ivan Krstić | http://radian.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] picked up by TweakTown, with an old XO beauty shot
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/12610/sugar_os_now_runs_from_usb_stick/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] picked up by TechSpot
http://www.techspot.com/news/35217-100-OLPC-becomes-5-USB-stick.html Note particularly clueless comments. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] picked up by Compulenta (Russia)
http://soft.compulenta.ru/436530/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
