Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Board elections (was Re: Sugar Digest 2009-07-22)

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 08:05, Mel Chua wrote:
> It doesn't look like we've got a page for this yet, so I'm putting
> current notes about how the election process will/could run here.
> Deliberately roughly written and incomplete to encourage others to put
> in their own ideas.
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Labs/Governance/Oversight_Board#Elections_proposal
>
> afaik, we haven't appointed anyone or any group to be the
> decisionmaker on how the elections should be run (and I shouldn't be
> that person or in that group because I'm running) but I did tell
> Walter I'd help us get to the "ready to vote!" point as much as
> possible without being able to make the final choices myself.

I trust we are going to be able to make these decisions by consensus,
so we may need more of a cat herder than a decision maker.

Regards,

Tomeu

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Board elections (was Re: Sugar Digest 2009-07-22)

[Mel Chua]

It doesn't look like we've got a page for this yet, so I'm putting
current notes about how the election process will/could run here.
Deliberately roughly written and incomplete to encourage others to put
in their own ideas.

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Labs/Governance/Oversight_Board#Elections_proposal

afaik, we haven't appointed anyone or any group to be the
decisionmaker on how the elections should be run (and I shouldn't be
that person or in that group because I'm running) but I did tell
Walter I'd help us get to the "ready to vote!" point as much as
possible without being able to make the final choices myself.

--Mel
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[IAEP] Resources in Spanish for the XO and Sugar including Teacher Workshops

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hello Nancie,


Welcome to OLPC!  Here is are links to the teachers' manuals from Peru.  They 
are in Spanish, but excellent. It tells how to do almost everything you would 
want to do.
There are 3 parts totalling over 100 pages.


http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sur#Per.C3.BA


They also have an excellent web site with a lot of links to interesting things:


http://www.perueduca.edu.pe/web/visitante/inicio


Mexico also has a lot of things on the web. Some of their screen shots may be 
from older versions of Sugar, but their manuals are excellent.


http://www.mochiladigitaltelmex.com.mx/olpc/index.php/Herramientas_pedagógicas


They have also done some excellent training sessions.  This link will take you 
to the page with links to their workshop lesson plans, participant guides, and 
a short "presentation." 


http://www.mochiladigitaltelmex.com.mx/olpc/index.php/Talleres_Mochila_Digital_Telmex
 


They deal with far more than how to use the XO.  There is a lot of other 
important information too.  Probably the 2nd one is the most important as it 
deals with constructionism and collaborative learning.


Unfortunately, they are all in Spanish.  Here is a suggestion...find a friend 
who is fluent in Spanish and spend several hours perusing these teacher 
workshop resources.  Take copious notes. Then write your own workshop lesson 
plan.


Of course, your most useful resource in English will be the FLOSS manuals at:


http://en.flossmanuals.net/


The ones for OLPC are on the right-hand column.


I hope you will be able to use some of these resources in your project. We 
really need someone to dedicate some time to get them translated into other 
languages.


Caryl
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:36:37 -0400
Subject: Hi from Nancie
From: nanciesev...@gmail.com
To: ca...@laptop.org

Hi Caryl,

It is nice to meet you:).
Thank you for sharing.

Nancie Severs
Hanover, NH
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Please check out One Laptop Per Child at www.laptop.org/en/ and help make the 
world a better place! 

Nancie
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Board elections (was Re: Sugar Digest 2009-07-22)

[Luke Faraone]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 21:14, Walter Bender wrote:

> Sounds good. Does anyone know whom to contact?
>

Not exactly, but I asked some of the people on #spi on irc.oftc.net, and got
the following:

19:53  Ganneff$ technically we can do it. whatever sugar labs project is, i
> dont know atm.
> 19:53  Ganneff$ if it is not against spis purpose/bylaws, then its probably
> fine to do
> 19:56  Ganneff$ lfaraone: could we talk about this somewhere tomorrow
> (well, in the evening then). currently there is debconf and many of us spi
> people are here, so not the best time to time irc chats about it.
> 19:56  Ganneff$ also, define near future please.
> 19:57  Ganneff$ if its middle/end of august then we can do the setup
> beginning of august, i have enough time there. (provided it fits spi and
> none of board is against it)
>

Would that be acceptable, if they agree to it, and the election occurs in
late August?

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[IAEP] Ivan's Sugar post Slashdotted

[Luke Faraone]

Hi all,

If you haven't seen it already, Ivan Krstić's notebook
postreplying to (somewhat
misquoted)
comments made by Nicholas Negroponte in ZDNet about Sugar's role in OLPC's
success. (or lack, thereof)

You can check out the story, with associated comments, at
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/07/26/2340234/Ivan-Krsti263-Says-Negropontes-Wrong-About-Sugar-and-OLPC
.

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[IAEP] Wiki spam

[Edward Cherlin]

I have had one of my user pages, User:Mokurai/Earth Treasury, spammed
by CotrtRorel several times. Can we track and block this person?

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[IAEP] Sugar activities in PyQt

[Tomeu Vizoso]

Hi,

have been playing this weekend with using PyQt to write activities and
the results have been pretty good.

You can read more about it here:

http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/07/writing-sugar-activities-with-pyqt.html

One more thing: anyone in the IAEP and sugar-devel lists didn't knew
that planet.sugarlabs.org existed? I get most of the comments from
GNOME developers, so maybe we aren't advertising this resource
properly?

Cheers,

Tomeu
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Re: [IAEP] The Next Wave of Activity Sharing

[Martin Langhoff]

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Michael Stone
 wrote:
>
> Could you post a link to that thread or better search terms?
>
> It seems rather relevant to my ongoing work...

The whole "EduBlog: Teacher Review Options" thread is informative.
Within the search below try

 - edublog privacy
 - edublog security
 - edublog review

http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&q=site%3Alists.laptop.org+edublog+teacher+review

In terms of legal issues, the US has FERPA - a good overview of it
from a "using online learning tools" PoV at
http://docs.moodle.org/en/FERPA , and discussion at
http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=77059

While I don't think it is wise to tie oneself too much to the law of a
specific countries, I think we can expect most countries to have a
FERPA-like law now or in the near future.

*It is a good idea to protect kids' privacy* anyway.




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Re: [IAEP] The Next Wave of Activity Sharing

[Sean DALY]

A website counterpart to Sugar, whether demo or live extension, could
multiply our impact by allowing teachers and parents (not to mention
journalists) to discover and try Sugar without the barriers of
downloading an ISO, loading a stick and configuring BIOS, or obtaining
an XO.

I concur that the schoolwide scenario is important.

Sean


On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Martin
Langhoff wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> That's what I was trying to explain ;) Though I do see some value in
>
> It's a fantastic idea, but I have to concur with Tomeu -- make it work
> _local_ (with the XS for example, though it doesn't have to be), and
> from there push it upstream if possible, but *let users control this
> explicitly*.
>
> My long term plan (if I ever get to it!) is to do something like this
> with Moodle+Mahara. Or perhaps Moodle->Moodle. So I'd love to see this
> done.
>
> When I write "let users control this explicitly", I mean: let kids
> share this with their local (and safe) group, and let them choose to
> publish more widely (to the internet) with the input from adults
> (teachers, parents).
>
> We had almost identical discussions with the "edublog" team, they
> wanted to have kids blog directly to the internet. As things
> progressed they realised it was a bad idea. Do search the discussion
> lists for edublog to have more background.
>
> In some countries, beyond being a bad idea, it is illegal. In the US
> at least there are serious laws that will get teachers and schools
> into lots of trouble if kids' privacy is breached. And yes, Internet
> === Breach of privacy.
>
> cheers,
>
>
>
> m
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Re: [IAEP] The Next Wave of Activity Sharing

[Martin Langhoff]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> That's what I was trying to explain ;) Though I do see some value in

It's a fantastic idea, but I have to concur with Tomeu -- make it work
_local_ (with the XS for example, though it doesn't have to be), and
from there push it upstream if possible, but *let users control this
explicitly*.

My long term plan (if I ever get to it!) is to do something like this
with Moodle+Mahara. Or perhaps Moodle->Moodle. So I'd love to see this
done.

When I write "let users control this explicitly", I mean: let kids
share this with their local (and safe) group, and let them choose to
publish more widely (to the internet) with the input from adults
(teachers, parents).

We had almost identical discussions with the "edublog" team, they
wanted to have kids blog directly to the internet. As things
progressed they realised it was a bad idea. Do search the discussion
lists for edublog to have more background.

In some countries, beyond being a bad idea, it is illegal. In the US
at least there are serious laws that will get teachers and schools
into lots of trouble if kids' privacy is breached. And yes, Internet
=== Breach of privacy.

cheers,



m
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