[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-10-25

[Walter Bender]

=== Sugar Digest ===



1. Tales from Peru. I spend a three exhilarating days in Peru this
week. As is the case with most flights from the States, I arrived in
Lima close to midnight on Wednesday. But I managed to get to the
ministry of education for an early morning meeting with Victor
Castillo, the pedagogical lead with the Peru one-laptop-per-child
program. Peru has deployed hundreds of thousands of machines in some
of the most remote regions in the country. Victor gave me an update
about the program and briefed me on the IADB-sponsored evaluation.
When I asked him what more the development community could do, he
response was that he wanted less—fewer activities—because every time
we add more, there is a need for more training, which is difficult
given the remoteness of the schools. What Victor then explained was
that he wanted a solid base of around ten activities from which the
teachers and children would grow—"low floor no ceiling". Being able to
"hide" additional activities behind the circle in the list view is
feature that he looks forward to when they upgrade their machines. The
cleanliness and simplicity of the 0.86 toolbar was appreciated, as
well as the ubiquitous presence of the Stop Button. But we do need to
be vigilant not to overload Sugar with extraneous features. Less
really is more.



I also talked with Oscar Becerra, who is leading the project in Peru.
He voiced a concern about not introducing change for change sake, but
nonetheless we agreed that Sugar 0.86 would be a positive step
forward—one that perhaps could be made in conjunction with the
introduction of the OLPC XO-1.5 machines. We also discussed using
Sugar on a Stick as a way to reach more children sooner, as given
budget constraints, it will take many years to reach the point where
every child can be given a laptop.



Thursday evening, I attened a meeting for Sugar community volunteers
organized by Sebastian Silva [www.fuentelibre.org FuenteLibre] and
Kiko Mayorga [escuelab.org Escuelab] at Escuelab's facility in Lima's
Centro Historico. The Escuelab is in a beautiful space—labs on one
floor, residence on another. I walked in to the sight of a roomful of
machines running Sugar on Trisquel. The young son of one of the
attendees was exploring Sugar for the first time. When he got to the
Physics activity, I was transfixed. He was playing the activity like a
musical instrument, a fluid dance of objects bouncing around the
screen in unexpected configurations. Amazing.



The meeting itself also had its surprises. More than forty people of
diverse crowded into
the room; an animated discussion ensued (en español). There is passion
and talent in the Sugar community in Peru and they are getting
organized. Stay tuned.

The next morning I went to visit a school in Chaclayo
.. As always, it is thrilling to see children using Sugar, even though
in this case, it was Sugar from two-years ago. They were using Write,
Record, Chess, and Paint. I gave a Turtle Art lesson, which was a
treat for me. The one negative were the touchpads. They were jumping
all over the place, which, in this old version of Sugar, caused the
Frame to appear sporadically. It was really disruptive. More resent
versions of Sugar don't have this problem. We need to get an upgrade
to these kids.

I spent Saturday at the University of San Martin de Porres, host to
the [http://fosd.libreusmp.org Fourth Freedom & Open Source Day]. I
used the theme "turtles all the way down" in my talk, arguing both the
need for freedom for education and education for freedom. I started my
talk with a puzzle: 0, 1, 2, 720!. What comes next? For some people,
this puzzle is pretty easy because they immediately make the
connection between 720 and 6!. And since 6 is 3!, a quick series of
substitutions lead you to: 0, 1!, 2!!, 3!!!, 4, … Why did I bring
this up? I wanted to make a point about low-shelf vs high-shelf tools.
We all have tools on our low shelf, easy to access. If 6!=720 is on
your low shelf, this was an easy puzzle. If it is on your high shelf,
you had to reach for the solution. If it wasn't on either shelf, you
had to work even harder, or perhaps you gave up entirely. I went on to
argue that computation should be on every child's low shelf.

I spent the rest of the day at working with the student group,
Cixos-FIA (cixosfia.libreusmp.org)
. We did a 30-minute code sprint and wrote the stub of an activity.
(Actually, it took 45 minutes, because I was using vi.) I installed
emacs and then we really started making headway, enough to consider
setting up our project in git. We installed git and then it was time
to create a new project on Gitorious. When we went to push, we
discovered that there was a firewall. So we installed tor, but there
was a missing dependency, connect, for which we could only find the
source, not a binary. We installed gcc, compiled it, and we able to
push [http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/cixos our project]. It was
actually nice to encounter so many roadblocks

Re: [IAEP] Deducto and Color Deducto activities - creating your own game mechanism

[Caroline Meeks]

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Manusheel Gupta  wrote:

> Caroline,
>
> Thank you. Appreciate your feedback.
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Caroline Meeks <
> carol...@solutiongrove.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is cool thanks!
>>
>
>
> Is there a way to lower the floor?
>>
>
>   I am sorry, but I didn't get this part. Could you please elaborate.
>

One of the Sugar sayings is "Low Floor, No Ceiling" that is its really
really easy to start, very little learning curve to climb, but you can still
do powerful things as you learn more and more.

>
>
>
>> Is there a version of this game that a 6 year old could have easy success
>> with that would help ramp it up?
>>
>
> Wish if you could share your ideas on how we could work and improve on this
> area. Will having a "hint" feature in the game that pops up after a couple
> of tries, and after viewing 5-8 true boards and false boards makes things
> better?
>

Hmm, I'm not actually very good at designing games but I suggest taking a
look at the Sudoku game and Implode. Maybe start with a very small board and
totally obvious rules?  How can we teach someone who can't read the
instructions on how to play?

>
>
>
>>
>> Suzanne, the 4th grade teacher at the GPA, has the students play a "Guess
>> my rule" game with shapes. For example, "All right angles" "Only Triangles",
>> "Two sides the same".
>>
>>
> Very interesting. We will be working on developing lesson plans using
> Deducto and Color Deducto this winter. This use-case will be explored in
> detail before we implement this in the activities. Wish if you could provide
> us with lesson plans that teachers at GPA would like us to implement in
> these activities. Thank you very much for sharing these ideas.
>

Right now they play it with cut out shapes. One student makes a secret rule
(e.g. all right angles) and the other student selects shapes and is told if
they match the rule. They have to guess the rule.

>
>
>
>
>> Do we have a place to put game ideas so programmers could pick them up if
>> they want a project?
>>
>
> Not at this juncture. We'll start this section within the next 2 days.
>

Great!

Thanks for all the good work!!!

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Manu
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Manusheel Gupta  wrote:
>>
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> Ashita has been working on a user guide for "create your own game"
>>> mechanism for Deducto and Color Deducto activities. The guide is not yet
>>> complete and needs a flow chart, but should be good enough to walk you
>>> through this feature. Please find it attached along with this e-mail.
>>>
>>> On a separate note, this feature is open to development, and we will see
>>> more enhancements soon.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Manu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Ashita Dadlani 
>>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM
>>> Subject: revised color deducto documentation
>>> To: Manusheel Gupta ,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Software Engineer, Products and Services
>>> Software for Education, Entertainment and Training Activities
>>> http://seeta.in
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Solution Grove
>> carol...@solutiongrove.com
>>
>> 617-500-3488 - Office
>> 505-213-3268 - Fax
>>
>
>


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[IAEP] 'apt-get install sugar-platform' available for Ubuntu9.10.

[David Farning]

After a couple of weeks of reading tutorials, help from Aleksey, and
some Ubuntu developers there are Sugar packages available for Ubuntu
9.10.

For now, these packages are available on the Ubuntu-Sugarteam PPA
(personal package archive) at
https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam/+archive/0.86 .

To use these packages, just add
'http://ppa.launchpad.net/sugarteam/0.86/ubuntu karmic main' to the
end of /etc/apt/sources.list

Ubuntu-Sugarteam
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[IAEP] Quiz making activity - was Re: thin clients

[Caroline Meeks]

Dave, Pyclic looks very interesting. Let me know when its ready for testing.

As I am working to get Sugar on a Stick working within the realities of the
5th grade GPA classrooms I'm very interested in tools that let the kids
create things they can share and use to practice their skills.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David Van Assche wrote:

> Actually without getting people wirngingling their fists, I'd have to say
> that due to Open Suse's policy of basically lending an open hand to anyone
> with magical ideas, and then not only allowing you to use their name, but
> also their inframagic, from Opensuse Buidle Service to Suse Studio, to
> creating yout own web domain hosted under novel, yet without the requirement
> to carry novell only soft on it, (linux-for-education.org is a good
> example) it has allowed them to kind of leap frog over some of the
> competition, though no one likes to admit this. For example in the case of
> LTSP an easy visual setp facility was built in, along with trying it out
> even before installing, Sugar on kiwi-ltsp was working just fine the last
> time I took a look, though that has admittadly beena while. I made back then
> to include as many well working fully functional sugar apps on both the
> sugar only cd and the whole edu dvd. The whole EDU dvd is truly a work of
> art, and is where a lot of the other distros could be at it if werent for
> politics. But hey I'm currently mixxed ina small telepathy based
> collaborative quiz (git.sugarlabs.org/projects/pyclic) and some larger
> telepathy based/LTSP/Sugar/Wirelss/XMPP based suff... but I'll try and get
> this email to push me update sugaresuse..
>
> anyw more questions... just ask..
>
> D
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, David Farning wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Deborah Boatwright
>>  wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am intrigued by many aspects of Sugar on a Stick.  My school uses
>> Novell with Windows XP on the desk top.
>> >
>> > Then I have a thin client network using LTSP-KIWI Opensuse that does not
>> work well. It is two servers and 72 thin clients.
>> >
>> >  I have a mobile laptop lab of 24 PC that are R30 thinkpads.
>> >
>> > My question is I found this site and wondered if I can use Sugar as an
>> application on my thin clients.
>> >
>> > http://en.opensuse.org/Sugar
>>
>> Short answer is yes you can.
>>
>> Longer answer it might take some work.  From what I have seen,
>> OpenSuse is the current leader in education solutions base on thin
>> clients.
>>
>> I am ccing David Van Assche, the opensuse package maintainer.  He will
>> be most knowledgeable about (or can refer you to knowledgeable people)
>> deploying Sugar on OpenSuse in a thin client environment.
>>
>> david
>>
>> > The district has said it is switching to linux 100% and will use a
>> windows application server to deliver apps that are necessary otherwise.
>> >
>> > Sincere Regards,
>> > Deb
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Re: [IAEP] Deducto and Color Deducto activities - creating your own game mechanism

[Manusheel Gupta]

Caroline,

Thank you. Appreciate your feedback.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Caroline Meeks
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is cool thanks!
>


Is there a way to lower the floor?
>

  I am sorry, but I didn't get this part. Could you please elaborate.



> Is there a version of this game that a 6 year old could have easy success
> with that would help ramp it up?
>

Wish if you could share your ideas on how we could work and improve on this
area. Will having a "hint" feature in the game that pops up after a couple
of tries, and after viewing 5-8 true boards and false boards makes things
better?



>
> Suzanne, the 4th grade teacher at the GPA, has the students play a "Guess
> my rule" game with shapes. For example, "All right angles" "Only Triangles",
> "Two sides the same".
>
>
Very interesting. We will be working on developing lesson plans using
Deducto and Color Deducto this winter. This use-case will be explored in
detail before we implement this in the activities. Wish if you could provide
us with lesson plans that teachers at GPA would like us to implement in
these activities. Thank you very much for sharing these ideas.




> Do we have a place to put game ideas so programmers could pick them up if
> they want a project?
>

Not at this juncture. We'll start this section within the next 2 days.


Regards,

Manu





>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Manusheel Gupta  wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Ashita has been working on a user guide for "create your own game"
>> mechanism for Deducto and Color Deducto activities. The guide is not yet
>> complete and needs a flow chart, but should be good enough to walk you
>> through this feature. Please find it attached along with this e-mail.
>>
>> On a separate note, this feature is open to development, and we will see
>> more enhancements soon.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Manu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Ashita Dadlani 
>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM
>> Subject: revised color deducto documentation
>> To: Manusheel Gupta ,
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ashita Dadlani
>> Software Engineer, Products and Services
>> Software for Education, Entertainment and Training Activities
>> http://seeta.in
>>
>>
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>
>
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>
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Re: [IAEP] New activity: Arithmetic.

[Chris Ball]

Hi Caroline,

   > Hi Chris, I had a crazy idea for Arithmetic yesterday.  Its a
   > wonderful game for the GPA. Its exactly the kind of practice the
   > students at GPA need. Its collaborative and other people are a
   > huge key to engagement.  But as you said it needs a little
   > something more to make it fun.

This sounds like a good way to make it more fun, although I suppose
it's making the game longer by making the players wait for someone to
place a piece in the Physics world before getting a new question;
another way would be to replace the numeric scores with icons that
race towards a finish line as their owners score points, perhaps.

Unfortunately, I don't have any talent for the UI stuff -- the hope
was that by getting the collaboration part of the activity out there,
someone with UI skills will adopt making a fun UI for it (and better
scoring, and better question generation logic, etc).  :)

Thanks,

- Chris.
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Re: [IAEP] New activity: Arithmetic.

[Caroline Meeks]

Hi Chris,

I had a crazy idea for Arithmetic yesterday.

Its a wonderful game for the GPA. Its exactly the kind of practice the
students at GPA need. Its collaborative and other people are a huge key to
engagement.

But as you said it needs a little something more to make it fun.  This may
not be technically easy but here is my idea.

Combine it with Physics.  Everytime you get an answer right you earn a move
in Physics. You get to put down a block or make a new shape or grab.

Super cool would be collaborative where everyone is working in the same
world either trying to build something together or just knocking each other
stuff around.

Scoring: with this we no longer need explicit scoring. I think scoring can
be discouraging if you are always the worst one in your class or you just
have brain that is slow to retrieve math facts. However, I think your moves
should expire, so if you are fast you have an advantage, you have more time
to think about and make your physics moves.  I think the goal is to
encourage the students to speed up their retrieval, but still have it be fun
no matter where you are right now.

Doing well and playing fast gives you advantages that are fun, but doesn't
set up a strict, I win, you lose dynamic.

Is a shared physics world among all the contestants possible? It might be as
good or better for some personality types if everyone had their own world.
Especially if you could see a picture of the other people's worlds.

A feature request is to save at least a picture of the world you create to
the Journal so we can use it in a Portfolio.  "I created this roller coaster
by knowing my multiplication facts on hard"


On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Chris Ball  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Over the last few Sunday afternoons, Ben Schwartz, Michael Stone and I
> have been hacking on a new activity.  It's a collaborative arithmetic
> quiz, and extensively uses Ben's "groupthink" collaboration module.
> Here's a link to a bundle:
>
> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/latest/4204/addon-4204-latest.xo
> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4204
>
> The game tries to show all the participants the same questions at the
> same time, gives an ongoing scoreboard of how many questions each
> participant has answered correctly, and measures the amount of time it
> takes everyone to answer each question.  It also lets the group choose
> which of addition, subtraction, multiplication and division their game
> should use, and how hard the questions should be.
>
> We think it's pretty fun already, but it still needs plenty of work,
> and we'd love to have help with it.  Some obvious next steps are:
>
> * Artwork!  We haven't spent any time making it pretty.  If someone
>  wants to go ahead and rip everything apart and put it back together
>  in a way that actually looks attractive, that would be awesome.
> * Looks like I messed up the logo in Inkscape, and it doesn't have
>  the correct stroke_color references.
> * It crashes when resumed, as opposed to launched with "Start".
>  Haven't looked into that yet.
> * Gettextification and translations.
> * An algorithm for scoring that depends on how quickly an answer is
>  given.  (One idea could be that you get 9 points if you answer with
>  9 seconds left, down to 1 point for answering with 1 second left.)
> * A natural end to each "round", perhaps involving giving out "medals"
>  (just as Typing Turtle does) for achievement to the participants.
> * There may still be cases where it shows entirely different questions
>  to the participants, instead of everyone seeing the same ones, and
>  we'd like to know about that so we can fix it.
>
> If anyone's in a position to get feedback from kids on whether playing
> this collaboratively is fun, and what might make it more fun, that'd
> be really good to hear.  We'd welcome everyone's changes to the
> activity; we can always back out a change if it needs to be discussed
> more, so don't be shy about pushing changes to a branch or asking for
> direct commit access.  (If there's some way to allow anyone with an SL
> gitorious account to commit directly, that would be an ideal setup.)
>
> The GIT tree contains groupthink referenced as a submodule, so to
> check it out:
>
> git clone git://git.sugarlabs.org/arithmetic/mainline.gitArithmetic.activity
> cd Arithmetic.activity
> git submodule init
> git submodule update
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Chris.
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[IAEP] Teleread founder David Rothman calls for eBook plan for American libraries

[Sean DALY]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rothman/how-e-books-could-smarten_b_329227.html
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[IAEP] New German site about eBooks

[Sean DALY]

http://www.ebook-spot.de/
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[IAEP] Fwd: 3D Objects in education?

[David Van Assche]

wow gmail just doesnt like me today

-- Forwarded message --
From: David Van Assche 
Date: Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] 3D Objects in education?
To: cristian paul penaranda rojas 
Cc: iaep 


oh yes, trace to bitmap. Elemental. Then u can get then te shade
pictures of their faces whichb is great from about 10-20 images. But this
swhere linux-for-eduaction.org really comes in handy one site kids ended up
loving  to to bits was, nic.ubu,nu, wthich you probably know seeing as you
use with fgubbbry looking ghod, i
IF I had to chose my FOSS tool, for the Nobel Price, it would be Inkscaoe,
-apparently  a lot hard hard hacking ha to happen to git it sugarised.
but wnere there jis s a challege their migt be undermployed enthusastic
overworkerd Eaurasins

It actually all sounds a little political  me becuasw idf you think about
Inkscape shouts out wanting to be its mascot proudct. Its  dead easy to use
fi reachesmsteundsa dn -teacers- and there is lots, and I mean really a heck
ofa  lots...

 And if just some of you (yes! you know who you are) spent 15 minutes making
a moodle course (thereis even a how do I makerty iy a moodle course in video
format!) but it is essentially just pick a localised setion, concept: Golf
Course creator (pro-.sellable, expandable, etc)

DO IT! Spend 15 miuttes today... learn 2 2things at once (they say we cant
really multitask, prove them wong)

so, in grandma fromat:

   - install inkscape
   - go to linux-for-education.org and choose an inskpe resource, believe me
   there are many
   - ytry it out, some are more  difficult thna others
   - write the moodle course, in doc format if you are woos and need me
   gonconvet it to moodle format for you. Il patronise you of course as that js
   my perogative,.


Onxomes ubn Sat, Oct 24, 2kn9 at 6:55 PM, cristian paul penaranda rojas <
p...@kristianpaul.org> wrote:

> hi
>
> My name is Cristian Paul, i'm part of the local sugarlabs teamr in Colombia
> rr
>
> Since the middle of this year i began thinking about how free/libre design
> electronics projects like arduino/sanguino/pinguino
> could help to improve science learning in sugar, my first tought was about
> the use an arduino derivative
> called pinguino [1], an try to make a small and cheap scope [2] (like
> measure) that can be attached to the computer that run sugar,
> it will allow measure environment variables like temperature, light,
> resistence and  sound may be, this idea still in design
> i got some parts of the software and hardware components but sugarize is
> not started yet.
>
> What this have to do with 3D objets?, well i think some of you had read the
> post in olpc-news about
> a repraped "view finder" for XO, that was made by reprap [3], well,  this
> new revolution about local/home fabrication
> of 3D objects is opening a new path, and i think and believe some how, that
> education if one of then, but due the lack
> of knowledge that i have about that field, ideas dont rise as i wish they
> do, besides make a case for my pinguino/arduino scope
> and some puzzle games :P. I think 3D priting revolution can help as free
> software does, to improve educational processes.
>
> So, i'm asking here, about ideas related with this "phisical computing"
> stuff plus 3D objets [4],  education and sugar environment.
>
> In a moth or less i hope, i'll join this 3D priting revolution (got a
> reprap printer dervivate [5]),
> so i'll be able to reproduce locally, cheap and with full autonomy 3D
> objets for almost any porpuse.
>
> Critics, suguestions are wellcome, i really need to go beyond i know is
> posible, just need a bit of comunity help
>
> Thanks for reading
>
> saludos
>
> Cristian Paul Peñaranda
>
> [1] http://www.hackinglab.org/pinguino/index_pinguino.html
> [2] http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sobre_Measure
> [3] http://reprap.org
> [4] http://makerbot.com
> [5] http://thingiverse.com
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Re: [IAEP] 3D Objects in education?

[David Van Assche]

oh yes, trace to bitmap. Elemental. Then u can get then te shade
pictures of their faces whichb is great from about 10-20 images. But this
swhere linux-for-eduaction.org really comes in handy one site kids ended up
loving  to to bits was, nic.ubu,nu, wthich you probably know seeing as you
use with fgubbbry looking ghod, i
IF I had to chose my FOSS tool, for the Nobel Price, it would be Inkscaoe,
-apparently  a lot hard hard hacking ha to happen to git it sugarised.
but wnere there jis s a challege their migt be undermployed enthusastic
overworkerd Eaurasins

It actually all sounds a little political  me becuasw idf you think about
Inkscape shouts out wanting to be its mascot proudct. Its  dead easy to use
fi reachesmsteundsa dn -teacers- and there is lots, and I mean really a heck
ofa  lots...

 And if just some of you (yes! you know who you are) spent 15 minutes making
a moodle course (thereis even a how do I makerty iy a moodle course in video
format!) but it is essentially just pick a localised setion, concept: Golf
Course creator (pro-.sellable, expandable, etc)

DO IT! Spend 15 miuttes today... learn 2 2things at once (they say we cant
really multitask, prove them wong)

so, in grandma fromat:

   - install inkscape
   - go to linux-for-education.org and choose an inskpe resource, believe me
   there are many
   - ytry it out, some are more  difficult thna others
   - write the moodle course, in doc format if you are woos and need me
   gonconvet it to moodle format for you. Il patronise you of course as that js
   my perogative,.


Onxomes ubn Sat, Oct 24, 2kn9 at 6:55 PM, cristian paul penaranda rojas <
p...@kristianpaul.org> wrote:

> hi
>
> My name is Cristian Paul, i'm part of the local sugarlabs teamr in Colombia
> rr
> Since the middle of this year i began thinking about how free/libre design
> electronics projects like arduino/sanguino/pinguino
> could help to improve science learning in sugar, my first tought was about
> the use an arduino derivative
> called pinguino [1], an try to make a small and cheap scope [2] (like
> measure) that can be attached to the computer that run sugar,
> it will allow measure environment variables like temperature, light,
> resistence and  sound may be, this idea still in design
> i got some parts of the software and hardware components but sugarize is
> not started yet.
>
> What this have to do with 3D objets?, well i think some of you had read the
> post in olpc-news about
> a repraped "view finder" for XO, that was made by reprap [3], well,  this
> new revolution about local/home fabrication
> of 3D objects is opening a new path, and i think and believe some how, that
> education if one of then, but due the lack
> of knowledge that i have about that field, ideas dont rise as i wish they
> do, besides make a case for my pinguino/arduino scope
> and some puzzle games :P. I think 3D priting revolution can help as free
> software does, to improve educational processes.
>
> So, i'm asking here, about ideas related with this "phisical computing"
> stuff plus 3D objets [4],  education and sugar environment.
>
> In a moth or less i hope, i'll join this 3D priting revolution (got a
> reprap printer dervivate [5]),
> so i'll be able to reproduce locally, cheap and with full autonomy 3D
> objets for almost any porpuse.
>
> Critics, suguestions are wellcome, i really need to go beyond i know is
> posible, just need a bit of comunity help
>
> Thanks for reading
>
> saludos
>
> Cristian Paul Peñaranda
>
> [1] http://www.hackinglab.org/pinguino/index_pinguino.html
> [2] http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sobre_Measure
> [3] http://reprap.org
> [4] http://makerbot.com
> [5] http://thingiverse.com
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