[IAEP] OOo4Kids available for Sugar!

2009-11-16 Thread Sean DALY
http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news/2009/11/ooo4kidsactivityxo-is-available.html

Eric has announced availability of the Sugar port of OOo4Kids.

I haven't had the chance to test it yet.

What's the procedure to add an Activity to activities.sugarlabs.org?
So we can ask Eric to do that.

thanks

Sean
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Re: [IAEP] OOo4Kids available for Sugar!

2009-11-16 Thread David Farning
The basics of uploading to activities.sl.o sounds like something the
marketing guy should know:)

I am on IRC so I can walk you through the process.  (you can
upload it and then I will assign eric as author/developer so he owns
and maintains the project)

david

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
> http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news/2009/11/ooo4kidsactivityxo-is-available.html
>
> Eric has announced availability of the Sugar port of OOo4Kids.
>
> I haven't had the chance to test it yet.
>
> What's the procedure to add an Activity to activities.sugarlabs.org?
> So we can ask Eric to do that.
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
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Re: [IAEP] OOo4Kids available for Sugar!

2009-11-16 Thread samy boutayeb
Hi Sean,

Le lundi 16 novembre 2009 à 11:06 +0100, Sean DALY a écrit :
> http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news/2009/11/ooo4kidsactivityxo-is-available.html
> 
> Eric has announced availability of the Sugar port of OOo4Kids.
> 
> I haven't had the chance to test it yet.
> 
I tested it on the XO and on other platforms (ubuntu, debian, mandriva),
in an emulated environment with wine and sugar, and on mips based
netbooks (gdium with mandriva-mips and yeeloong with gnewsense/debian).

A small report intended for the end users is available on OLPC France's
blog:
http://olpc-france.org/blog/2009/11/ooo4kids-rikiki-maouss-costaud/

On the XO, the installation procedure succeded only from the terminal,
unarchiving the xo archive on the "~/Activities/" dirctory.
The activity feels light, launchs quick and is perfectly usable and user
friendly on the XO 1.0.

Regards,

Samy 

> What's the procedure to add an Activity to activities.sugarlabs.org?
> So we can ask Eric to do that.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Sean
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Re: [IAEP] OOo4Kids available for Sugar!

2009-11-16 Thread Sean DALY
believe me, there is no shortage of things I "should" know ;-)

IRC not possible for me right now, but the marketing guy thinks he
could work on a link on the homepage of a.sl.o explaining to any
potential Activity developer (myself included) how to do it

Sean


On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM, David Farning  wrote:
> The basics of uploading to activities.sl.o sounds like something the
> marketing guy should know:)
>
> I am on IRC so I can walk you through the process.  (you can
> upload it and then I will assign eric as author/developer so he owns
> and maintains the project)
>
> david
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
>> http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news/2009/11/ooo4kidsactivityxo-is-available.html
>>
>> Eric has announced availability of the Sugar port of OOo4Kids.
>>
>> I haven't had the chance to test it yet.
>>
>> What's the procedure to add an Activity to activities.sugarlabs.org?
>> So we can ask Eric to do that.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Sean
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Re: [IAEP] OOo4Kids available for Sugar!

2009-11-16 Thread David Farning
The relevant information is on the wiki is at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library .

Uploading specific information is at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Authors

Please note, I wrote those processes before anyone besides me had
actually uploaded an activity:(  I am not sure how close they match
the reality of current activities policy and procedures.

david

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
> believe me, there is no shortage of things I "should" know ;-)
>
> IRC not possible for me right now, but the marketing guy thinks he
> could work on a link on the homepage of a.sl.o explaining to any
> potential Activity developer (myself included) how to do it
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM, David Farning  
> wrote:
>> The basics of uploading to activities.sl.o sounds like something the
>> marketing guy should know:)
>>
>> I am on IRC so I can walk you through the process.  (you can
>> upload it and then I will assign eric as author/developer so he owns
>> and maintains the project)
>>
>> david
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
>>> http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news/2009/11/ooo4kidsactivityxo-is-available.html
>>>
>>> Eric has announced availability of the Sugar port of OOo4Kids.
>>>
>>> I haven't had the chance to test it yet.
>>>
>>> What's the procedure to add an Activity to activities.sugarlabs.org?
>>> So we can ask Eric to do that.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
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>>
>
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Re: [IAEP] OOo4Kids available for Sugar!

2009-11-16 Thread Bastien
David Farning  writes:

> The relevant information is on the wiki is at
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library .
>
> Uploading specific information is at
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Authors

I have an account on a.sl.o, I can upload the .xo bundle.

Eric, should I wait or should I go?

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[IAEP] Book reading demo suggestions

2009-11-16 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi,

I just downloaded Read eTexts 17 and it doesn't seem to include search
anymore. This could well be a good thing, but now I'm faced with figuring
out where to go and what book format I should use. :)  What are a couple
good books and formats I could use for demos?  I'd like children's books
with pictures if possible.

Thanks!
Caroline

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Re: [IAEP] OOo4Kids available for Sugar!

2009-11-16 Thread Walter Bender
I thought Erik was planning to upload the .xo file himself (as per our
conversation last week). In any case, this is a very nice development
for Sugar and Open Office.

-walter


On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Bastien  wrote:
> David Farning  writes:
>
>> The relevant information is on the wiki is at
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library .
>>
>> Uploading specific information is at
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Authors
>
> I have an account on a.sl.o, I can upload the .xo bundle.
>
> Eric, should I wait or should I go?
>
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Re: [IAEP] OOo4Kids available for Sugar!

2009-11-16 Thread Bastien
Walter Bender  writes:

> I thought Erik was planning to upload the .xo file himself (as per our
> conversation last week). 

Okay, let's go this way then.

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[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-11-16

2009-11-16 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest ===

1. I am writing this update today while waiting to see if I will
called to jury duty. I was originally supposed to report last week,
but a deferment was granted since I was in Bolzano. I am not sure why
I had never been called before—both my wife and children have served
several times. But unlike the airport in Rome, there is at least a
place to sit and plug in my laptop and get on-line while I wait, so
here it goes.

I was in Rome overnight in transit from Bolzano, where we held a
week-long Sugar Camp
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/Sugarcamp_Bolzano_2009].
Bolzano is in South Tyrol, in the Italian Alps. The autonomous
regional government is a user of free software and is exploring ways
in which they can engage the FOSS community more deeply. They have a
regional development organization, TIS [http://www.tis.bz.it/], that
fosters FOSS projects in the region, provides infrastructure and
support, and an annual Free Software Week. It was in the context of
[http://www.freesoftwareweek.org/ Free Software Week] that we came to
Bolzano.

Rather than meet at TIS, we (Simon Schampijer, Tomeu Vizoso, Dave
Farning, Sean Daly, Stefan Unterhauser (Dogi), Carlo Falciola, Adam
Holt, Christian Vanizette, and I) spent the week at
[http://www.cts-einaudi.it/ CTS Luigi Einaudi], a technical school a
short walk from the city center. We were given a comfortable room with
Internet access, just upstairs from the school's coffee bar and next
door to where the [http://live.gnome.org/ZeitgeistHackFest2009 Gnome
Zeitgeist team] was meeting. Over the course of the week, we
interacted with teachers, students, developers, and a variety of
people in the region who have an interest in Sugar.

We had a busy week. My typical day was to get up at 6:00, go down
stairs for an early breakfast with David, who would have already been
up for at least an hour, take a 20-minute walk to the school, arriving
at 8:00, in time for the first espresso of the day. We'd write code,
discuss ideas, brainstorm, and write more code until 20:00, at which
point we'd make a plan for dinner—usually a pizza or some knudel and
the local weizenbier or a glass of lagrein. Somehow or other, we would
never manage to get back to the hostel until after midnight. Pizza,
Python, and friends, surrounded by the Dolomites—not a bad way to
spend the week.

We made progress on the roadmap for 0.88, having brainstormed on a
number of topics
[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Ideas_0.88_0.90.pdf]. The themes
that rose to the top were: a simplified collaboration model;
resolution of some outstanding issues regarding the Home View, e.g.,
how to best launch new verses resume activities; and some changes to
the Journal—possibly the incorporation of versions and a better
integration of the Journal into the activity workflow, e.g., making it
possible to modify the description field while the activity is open.
Other themes include accessibility and testing.

Simon organized the discussions through the week. He kept us focused
and productive. He also got some hacking in, spending time working
through many of the issues associated with providing global support
for spell-check. In doing this, he'll have laid out the framework for
providing other global services.

Tomeu spend most of his week being interrupted by people asking him
questions. (Five minutes of Tomeu time usually was enough to keep me
busy for a few hours.) But he did manage to make progress on his work
on Python introspection. This work will lead to a much more efficient
use of Python modules in Sugar.

David and Dogi (working with Bernie and Aleksey from afar) did an
overhaul of some of our back-end systems, which had been becoming
stressed as more and more people are using Sugar. (For example, we've
already surpassed 1.5-million downloads from activities.sugarlabs.org.
It was just a few weeks ago that we reached the 1-million milestone.)
They have also stream-lined the process for setting up local mirrors.
We encourage you to set up a mirror in your region. (Argentina and
Paraguay have recently set up mirrors.)

Carlo help us in drafting [[a set of guidelines]] by which third
parties might work with Sugar Labs in establishing various value-added
services to the Sugar user community. We will be discussing these
guidelines over the next few weeks. We also spent time with Patrick
Ohnewein from TIS to discuss opportunities specific to South Tyrol.

Sean and Christian discussed a number different opportunities
regarding marketing. One idea that emerged is ''The Sugar Journal'',
along the lines of ''The Perl Journal'', which would include articles
written by teachers, developers, and other community members.

For my part, I spent most of the week sketching out some ideas. I
coded up a [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb44q3_color-selector-2_tech]
for both the control panel (it has changed a bit since I made the
screencast) and the initial start screen and started coding up an
activity to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-11-16

2009-11-16 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Walter Bender  wrote:
> === Sugar Digest ===
>
> 1. I am writing this update today while waiting to see if I will
> called to jury duty. I was originally supposed to report last week,
> but a deferment was granted since I was in Bolzano. I am not sure why
> I had never been called before—both my wife and children have served
> several times. But unlike the airport in Rome, there is at least a
> place to sit and plug in my laptop and get on-line while I wait, so
> here it goes.

I had noticed that there was very little traffic on the lists and IRC
about SugarCamp Bolzano.  As Walter points out, we got a tremendous
amount done,  but very little of it worthy of headlines.  My kind of
Meeting!

A very interesting dynamic was that almost _no_ time was spent talking
about what Sugar Labs _should_ do.  Rather it was a chance to work on
all of the nagging issues that are hard to get started on when your
primary resources are IRC, mailing lists, and google.

Kudos to Simon for a very well organised week.  My only gripe was the
lack of sound absorption material on the walls.  Dogi has a very low
pitch to his voice.  It was sometime hard for me to hear him when
there were other discussions happening in different parts of the room.
 As far as gripes go it is not a very serious one:)

As for me, I am enjoying one last morning watching the sun rise over
the mountains before it is time to head home.

Thanks for a good week.

david

> I was in Rome overnight in transit from Bolzano, where we held a
> week-long Sugar Camp
> [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/Sugarcamp_Bolzano_2009].
> Bolzano is in South Tyrol, in the Italian Alps. The autonomous
> regional government is a user of free software and is exploring ways
> in which they can engage the FOSS community more deeply. They have a
> regional development organization, TIS [http://www.tis.bz.it/], that
> fosters FOSS projects in the region, provides infrastructure and
> support, and an annual Free Software Week. It was in the context of
> [http://www.freesoftwareweek.org/ Free Software Week] that we came to
> Bolzano.
>
> Rather than meet at TIS, we (Simon Schampijer, Tomeu Vizoso, Dave
> Farning, Sean Daly, Stefan Unterhauser (Dogi), Carlo Falciola, Adam
> Holt, Christian Vanizette, and I) spent the week at
> [http://www.cts-einaudi.it/ CTS Luigi Einaudi], a technical school a
> short walk from the city center. We were given a comfortable room with
> Internet access, just upstairs from the school's coffee bar and next
> door to where the [http://live.gnome.org/ZeitgeistHackFest2009 Gnome
> Zeitgeist team] was meeting. Over the course of the week, we
> interacted with teachers, students, developers, and a variety of
> people in the region who have an interest in Sugar.
>
> We had a busy week. My typical day was to get up at 6:00, go down
> stairs for an early breakfast with David, who would have already been
> up for at least an hour, take a 20-minute walk to the school, arriving
> at 8:00, in time for the first espresso of the day. We'd write code,
> discuss ideas, brainstorm, and write more code until 20:00, at which
> point we'd make a plan for dinner—usually a pizza or some knudel and
> the local weizenbier or a glass of lagrein. Somehow or other, we would
> never manage to get back to the hostel until after midnight. Pizza,
> Python, and friends, surrounded by the Dolomites—not a bad way to
> spend the week.
>
> We made progress on the roadmap for 0.88, having brainstormed on a
> number of topics
> [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Ideas_0.88_0.90.pdf]. The themes
> that rose to the top were: a simplified collaboration model;
> resolution of some outstanding issues regarding the Home View, e.g.,
> how to best launch new verses resume activities; and some changes to
> the Journal—possibly the incorporation of versions and a better
> integration of the Journal into the activity workflow, e.g., making it
> possible to modify the description field while the activity is open.
> Other themes include accessibility and testing.
>
> Simon organized the discussions through the week. He kept us focused
> and productive. He also got some hacking in, spending time working
> through many of the issues associated with providing global support
> for spell-check. In doing this, he'll have laid out the framework for
> providing other global services.
>
> Tomeu spend most of his week being interrupted by people asking him
> questions. (Five minutes of Tomeu time usually was enough to keep me
> busy for a few hours.) But he did manage to make progress on his work
> on Python introspection. This work will lead to a much more efficient
> use of Python modules in Sugar.
>
> David and Dogi (working with Bernie and Aleksey from afar) did an
> overhaul of some of our back-end systems, which had been becoming
> stressed as more and more people are using Sugar. (For example, we've
> already surpassed 1.5-million downloads from activities.suga